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clelland
Posts 537


19/02/2011 09:09:12
If its possible would like to do this, any pointers.
She has been with us for over 2 years now
Knows the pros and cons of UK life well all the important things, church, weather, friends and better money.
Wanting to stay with us for wow for me, would like to make an even biggger impact on her and her family life.





Sticky Wicket
Posts 2626


19/02/2011 09:13:36
Very very difficult, be prepared for quite a response to your question.





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 09:32:01
The UK is like the US. They don't make it easy. You will face her running when she arrives. You will have to pay her significantly more.

Good luck to you.. You are quite trusting.. I personally wouldn't do it.. 2 years isn't that long of a time considering.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 09:36:49
I am considering taking one of mine back to the USA this summer and was going to start another thread(still might) , I am wondering what happens if they do the dreaded runner?





Sticky Wicket
Posts 2626


19/02/2011 09:39:05
sophia07 wrote:
I am considering taking one of mine back to the USA this summer and was going to start another thread(still might) , I am wondering what happens if they do the dreaded runner?


US immigration gets very P***ed at you.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 09:43:57
Heavy fines? I might be going back to get my masters full-time this Summer and will be alone. Daycare where I live is filled up quickly ,not flexible, and will cost more than a helper.
I guess I should head up to the embassy here and hope to speak with someone knowledgeable about this





Sticky Wicket
Posts 2626


19/02/2011 09:46:11
sophia07 wrote:
Heavy fines? I might be going back to get my masters full-time this Summer and will be alone. Daycare where I live is filled up quickly ,not flexible, and will cost more than a helper.
I guess I should head up to the embassy here and hope to speak with someone knowledgeable about this


Just get a local hire?





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 09:46:49
The US won't allow you to pay her what you pay her here. They will inquire about her salary. There are minimum wage laws there. And you won't be exempt.





Sticky Wicket
Posts 2626


19/02/2011 09:49:57
bornconfused wrote:
The US won't allow you to pay her what you pay her here. They will inquire about her salary. There are minimum wage laws there. And you won't be exempt.


& medical insurance/ taxes etc





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 09:50:40
Yes even with minimum wage it is still less. I also believe it is an 8 hour day 5 days a week. It goes by the state.
I am more concerned with absconding. She seems quite happy with me but I know the lore of the American Dream might reel her in. Not to divert from the op either but she also might need to consider the repercussions of absconding





Clairehdp
Posts 15267


19/02/2011 09:51:56
bornconfused wrote:
The US won't allow you to pay her what you pay her here. They will inquire about her salary. There are minimum wage laws there. And you won't be exempt.


Same for the UK too - minimum wage etc etc.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 09:51:57
Oh, medical insurance....
Now that is a twist I did not consider ( I know , I know just a lot on my mind lately)





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 09:52:07
Sophia they don't care about the reprecussions. They have family and friends in the US that will help them out.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 09:53:21
I mean about mine and the op's
Would we get fined? Court?





clelland
Posts 537


19/02/2011 09:56:52
Thanks guys so far, yes she could do a "runner" however at present we have trust in her - needed sometimes!
Any advice on visas to the UK?





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 09:57:08
Not sure.. Your best bet is to go to the Embassy/consulate and ask the questions..





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 10:04:14
One more sophia.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Pamphlet-Order.pdf
edited by bornconfused on 19/02/2011





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 10:05:16
clelland wrote:
Thanks guys so far, yes she could do a "runner" however at present we have trust in her - needed sometimes!
Any advice on visas to the UK?


Still go to the embassy and ask. The idea of a better life for them and their families will far outweigh anything they feel for you.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 10:05:41
bornconfused wrote:
sophia07 wrote:
I mean about mine and the op's
Would we get fined? Court?


http://abudhabi.usembassy.gov/niv/domestics.html


Thank you !





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 10:07:38
And btw per their website is absolutely illegal for you to hold on to their passport and you must sign an agreement stating you will not do so..





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 10:17:27
sophia07 wrote:
Yes even with minimum wage it is still less. I also believe it is an 8 hour day 5 days a week. It goes by the state.
I am more concerned with absconding. She seems quite happy with me but I know the lore of the American Dream might reel her in. Not to divert from the op either but she also might need to consider the repercussions of absconding


Federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Some states the minimum wage is higher which means you are by law required to pay them what the state min wage is. But expect it will be no less than $7.25 an hour. If they work over the 8 hour day, you will be expected to pay overtime pay which will cost you around $10 an hour. So your looking at at least $1200 usd a month to your helper. Which is much more than most daycares cost on a monthly basis.

Of course add in food, insurance, transportation (which under US law you are required to provide for your helper), housing, etc. your looking at WAY more than you pay her here.





Faifunghi
Posts 216


19/02/2011 10:17:33
sophia07 wrote:
Yes even with minimum wage it is still less. I also believe it is an 8 hour day 5 days a week. It goes by the state.
I am more concerned with absconding. She seems quite happy with me but I know the lore of the American Dream might reel her in. Not to divert from the op either but she also might need to consider the repercussions of absconding


Its not minimum wage in the US its 'prevailing' wage in your state (for a full time nanny/ housekeeper). Had a friend try to do this in the US this summer, it was crazy expensive. Almost impossible to bring such helpers to Canada (from own experience...) guessing UK makes it similarly difficult.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 10:31:57
Thanks everyone! 4 day a week daycare for one child in NY for a medic ore center comes out to about 1600 a month and I have 2 children so at least 3ooo and without the flexibility. Ughh. If only I had more options here but wanted to start in the Summer and be fully sure all credits are transferrable in the US. I guess at the end of the day if she did abscond I would be up s*#ts creek without a paddle so maybe not worth it. I'll look into it anyway at the embassy . To the op make sure you know what will happen to you, if anything, if yours anaconda in the UK. You just never know. Thank you to everyone for your help





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 10:33:10
Autocorrect strikes again! I meant absconds not anaconda!





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 11:24:45
sophia07 wrote:
Autocorrect strikes again! I meant absconds not anaconda!


lmao.. Thats funny..





taisik
Posts 185


19/02/2011 11:28:42
sophia. start blocking her salary from now. Tell her you are holding it until she comes back from USA, then you will give her one block amount





bornconfused
Posts 1443


19/02/2011 11:39:26
taisik wrote:
sophia. start blocking her salary from now. Tell her you are holding it until she comes back from USA, then you will give her one block amount


That is illegal as it comes.





sophia07
Posts 2273


19/02/2011 11:44:00
I'm still in Dubai and want to go about things the right way. I know many nationals and those married to some that somehow get away with only pay the same amount they pay here when they spend summers overseas but it just does not settle well with me. Not just the not being fair part but I just want to be on the right side of the law as the repercussions are not worth it in my case





Zannie
Posts 5097


19/02/2011 11:44:01
To the OP, is this a permanent move to the UK?

If it is I personally wouldn't. No matter how much you say you trust her, she'll be gone as soon as she gets her foot on UK soil. The temptation to find a better and more well paid job will be too much. Plus she may well have family there.

I don't know the rules for immigration into the UK, but I would imagine the UK authorities will frown on this and will ask why you cannot use a British citizen to do the job (with the relevant protection for you and your children which the UK authorities require i.e. police checks etc...).

Also she'll be expected to pay tax, National Insurance and you'll as her employer will have to prove she is paying it. Also she'll be eligible for statutory holiday, sickness and if required maternity pay.





Pamya
Posts 664


19/02/2011 11:54:21
Don't do it!
There are easier ways for child care in the U.K. You could get an au-pair for example; they don't have high salaries but you might need to pay for language coarse or something like that as an extra.





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