More
Hide

How easy is it to take your Helper back to UK?

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:09:12
If its possible would like to do this, any pointers.
She has been with us for over 2 years now
Knows the pros and cons of UK life well all the important things, church, weather, friends and better money.
Wanting to stay with us for wow for me, would like to make an even biggger impact on her and her family life.
537
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:13:36
Very very difficult, be prepared for quite a response to your question.
2626
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:32:01
The UK is like the US. They don't make it easy. You will face her running when she arrives. You will have to pay her significantly more.

Good luck to you.. You are quite trusting.. I personally wouldn't do it.. 2 years isn't that long of a time considering.
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:36:49
I am considering taking one of mine back to the USA this summer and was going to start another thread(still might) , I am wondering what happens if they do the dreaded runner?
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:39:05
sophia07 wrote:
I am considering taking one of mine back to the USA this summer and was going to start another thread(still might) , I am wondering what happens if they do the dreaded runner?


US immigration gets very P***ed at you.
2626
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:43:57
Heavy fines? I might be going back to get my masters full-time this Summer and will be alone. Daycare where I live is filled up quickly ,not flexible, and will cost more than a helper.
I guess I should head up to the embassy here and hope to speak with someone knowledgeable about this
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:46:11
sophia07 wrote:
Heavy fines? I might be going back to get my masters full-time this Summer and will be alone. Daycare where I live is filled up quickly ,not flexible, and will cost more than a helper.
I guess I should head up to the embassy here and hope to speak with someone knowledgeable about this


Just get a local hire?
2626
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:46:49
The US won't allow you to pay her what you pay her here. They will inquire about her salary. There are minimum wage laws there. And you won't be exempt.
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:49:57
bornconfused wrote:
The US won't allow you to pay her what you pay her here. They will inquire about her salary. There are minimum wage laws there. And you won't be exempt.


& medical insurance/ taxes etc
2626
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:50:40
Yes even with minimum wage it is still less. I also believe it is an 8 hour day 5 days a week. It goes by the state.
I am more concerned with absconding. She seems quite happy with me but I know the lore of the American Dream might reel her in. Not to divert from the op either but she also might need to consider the repercussions of absconding
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:51:56
bornconfused wrote:
The US won't allow you to pay her what you pay her here. They will inquire about her salary. There are minimum wage laws there. And you won't be exempt.


Same for the UK too - minimum wage etc etc.
15278
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:51:57
Oh, medical insurance....
Now that is a twist I did not consider ( I know , I know just a lot on my mind lately)
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:52:07
Sophia they don't care about the reprecussions. They have family and friends in the US that will help them out.
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:53:21
I mean about mine and the op's
Would we get fined? Court?
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:56:52
Thanks guys so far, yes she could do a "runner" however at present we have trust in her - needed sometimes!
Any advice on visas to the UK?
537
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 09:57:08
Not sure.. Your best bet is to go to the Embassy/consulate and ask the questions..
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:04:14
One more sophia.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Pamphlet-Order.pdf
edited by bornconfused on 19/02/2011
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:05:16
clelland wrote:
Thanks guys so far, yes she could do a "runner" however at present we have trust in her - needed sometimes!
Any advice on visas to the UK?


Still go to the embassy and ask. The idea of a better life for them and their families will far outweigh anything they feel for you.
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:05:41
bornconfused wrote:
sophia07 wrote:
I mean about mine and the op's
Would we get fined? Court?


http://abudhabi.usembassy.gov/niv/domestics.html


Thank you !
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:07:38
And btw per their website is absolutely illegal for you to hold on to their passport and you must sign an agreement stating you will not do so..
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:17:27
sophia07 wrote:
Yes even with minimum wage it is still less. I also believe it is an 8 hour day 5 days a week. It goes by the state.
I am more concerned with absconding. She seems quite happy with me but I know the lore of the American Dream might reel her in. Not to divert from the op either but she also might need to consider the repercussions of absconding


Federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Some states the minimum wage is higher which means you are by law required to pay them what the state min wage is. But expect it will be no less than $7.25 an hour. If they work over the 8 hour day, you will be expected to pay overtime pay which will cost you around $10 an hour. So your looking at at least $1200 usd a month to your helper. Which is much more than most daycares cost on a monthly basis.

Of course add in food, insurance, transportation (which under US law you are required to provide for your helper), housing, etc. your looking at WAY more than you pay her here.
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:17:33
sophia07 wrote:
Yes even with minimum wage it is still less. I also believe it is an 8 hour day 5 days a week. It goes by the state.
I am more concerned with absconding. She seems quite happy with me but I know the lore of the American Dream might reel her in. Not to divert from the op either but she also might need to consider the repercussions of absconding


Its not minimum wage in the US its 'prevailing' wage in your state (for a full time nanny/ housekeeper). Had a friend try to do this in the US this summer, it was crazy expensive. Almost impossible to bring such helpers to Canada (from own experience...) guessing UK makes it similarly difficult.
216
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:31:57
Thanks everyone! 4 day a week daycare for one child in NY for a medic ore center comes out to about 1600 a month and I have 2 children so at least 3ooo and without the flexibility. Ughh. If only I had more options here but wanted to start in the Summer and be fully sure all credits are transferrable in the US. I guess at the end of the day if she did abscond I would be up s*#ts creek without a paddle so maybe not worth it. I'll look into it anyway at the embassy . To the op make sure you know what will happen to you, if anything, if yours anaconda in the UK. You just never know. Thank you to everyone for your help
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 10:33:10
Autocorrect strikes again! I meant absconds not anaconda!
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 11:24:45
sophia07 wrote:
Autocorrect strikes again! I meant absconds not anaconda!


lmao.. Thats funny..
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 11:28:42
sophia. start blocking her salary from now. Tell her you are holding it until she comes back from USA, then you will give her one block amount
185
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 11:39:26
taisik wrote:
sophia. start blocking her salary from now. Tell her you are holding it until she comes back from USA, then you will give her one block amount


That is illegal as it comes.
1442
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 11:44:00
I'm still in Dubai and want to go about things the right way. I know many nationals and those married to some that somehow get away with only pay the same amount they pay here when they spend summers overseas but it just does not settle well with me. Not just the not being fair part but I just want to be on the right side of the law as the repercussions are not worth it in my case
2273
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 11:44:01
To the OP, is this a permanent move to the UK?

If it is I personally wouldn't. No matter how much you say you trust her, she'll be gone as soon as she gets her foot on UK soil. The temptation to find a better and more well paid job will be too much. Plus she may well have family there.

I don't know the rules for immigration into the UK, but I would imagine the UK authorities will frown on this and will ask why you cannot use a British citizen to do the job (with the relevant protection for you and your children which the UK authorities require i.e. police checks etc...).

Also she'll be expected to pay tax, National Insurance and you'll as her employer will have to prove she is paying it. Also she'll be eligible for statutory holiday, sickness and if required maternity pay.
5103
Posts

Latest post at 19/02/2011 11:54:21
Don't do it!
There are easier ways for child care in the U.K. You could get an au-pair for example; they don't have high salaries but you might need to pay for language coarse or something like that as an extra.
664
Posts


    Pages: 1 2





 

On ExpatWoman Today

Come to the Upcoming ExpatWoman Living in Dubai 2017 Event

Come to the Upcoming ExpatWoman Living in Dubai 2017 Event

Run Your Own Home Based Travel Business in the UAE

Run Your Own Home Based Travel Business in the UAE

Review: My Dental Hygiene Check-Up with Dr. Linda Raskansky

Review: My Dental Hygiene Check-Up with Dr. Linda Raskansky

More Women are Choosing to Work Abroad to Fast Track Their Careers

More Women are Choosing to Work Abroad to Fast Track Their Career...

What Happens When Your Child’s Permanent Teeth Erupt?

What Happens When Your Child’S Permanent Teeth Erupt?...

Soft Drinks Intake During Pregnancy Tied to Child’s Obesity

Soft Drinks Intake During Pregnancy Tied To Child’S Obesity...

8 Things That Can Land You in Jail in Dubai

8 Things That Can Land You In Jail In Dubai...

How Men and Women Differs Emotionally When It Comes to Infertility

How Men and Women Differs Emotionally When It Comes to Infertilit...

How Much Exercise Is Too Much When It Comes to Fertility?

How Much Exercise Is Too Much When It Comes To Fertility?...

How to Break Bad Dental Habits in Children

How To Break Bad Dental Habits In Children...

About Vaccines and Your Children: What You Need To Know

About Vaccines And Your Children: What You Need To Know...

The Most Common Reasons Why People Fail Their RTA Driving Test

The Most Common Reasons Why People Fail Their RTA Driving Test...

Current Concepts and Procedures Behind Facial Rejuvenation

Current Concepts And Procedures Behind Facial Rejuvenation...

Hypermarkets in Dubai are Set to Tackle Childhood Obesity

Hypermarkets In Dubai Are Set To Tackle Childhood Obesity...

How To Go Green While Keeping Your House Clean

How To Go Green While Keeping Your House Clean...

Health Checklist When Traveling With Kids This Summer

Health Checklist When Traveling With Kids This Summer...

Introducing Travel Trade Programme by Travel Counsellors

Introducing Travel Trade Programme By Travel Counsellors...

What Is Montessori Education and Why Your Child Needs It

What Is Montessori Education And Why Your Child Needs It...

Dr. Michael’s Dental Clinic Opens Doors to New Dental Hygienist

Dr. Michael’S Dental Clinic Opens Doors To New Dental Hygienist ...

Why Pretend & Role Play Matters for Our Children

Why Pretend & Role Play Matters For Our Children...

Award-winning Author and Health Advocate Talks About Infertility

Award-Winning Author And Health Advocate Talks About Infertility...

What are Dental Implants and Dentures? Which is Right for You?

What Are Dental Implants And Dentures? Which Is Right For You?...

Coping with Stress: You Don

Coping With Stress: You Don't Have To Do It Alone...

General Safety Tips for Women Who are Living Overseas

General Safety Tips For Women Who Are Living Overseas...

Achieve Perfect Lips with Semi Permanent Lip Tattoo

Achieve Perfect Lips With Semi Permanent Lip Tattoo...

Why You Should Enroll Your Kids at Monroe

Why You Should Enroll Your Kids At Monroe's Nursery's Summer Camp...

Introducing Baby at Home Program by Manzil Healthcare Services

Introducing Baby At Home Program By Manzil Healthcare Services...

Are You Looking for Mr. Right to Start a Family?

Are You Looking For Mr. Right To Start A Family?...

Dr. Michael’s Dental Clinic Welcomes New Specialist Pediatric Dentist

Dr. Michael’s Dental Clinic Welcomes New Specialist Pediatric Den...

Sunscreen: Does It Really Have You Covered?

Sunscreen: Does It Really Have You Covered?...

Review: My Dental Hygiene Check-Up with Dr. Linda Raskansky

Review: My Dental Hygiene Check-Up With Dr. Linda Raskansky...

Handy Cleaning Tips to Keep the Dust Away From Your Home

Handy Cleaning Tips To Keep The Dust Away From Your Home...

How to Raise Emotionally Intelligent Children

How To Raise Emotionally Intelligent Children...

Watch: This Video of Dubai is INSANE

Watch: This Video Of Dubai Is INSANE...

8 Films Showing in the UAE This Week

8 Films Showing In The UAE This Week...

Can Spices Really Relieve Toothaches?

Can Spices Really Relieve Toothaches?...

In Pictures: Ain Dubai Wheel is Halfway to Completion

In Pictures: Ain Dubai Wheel Is Halfway To Completion...

7 Things That Can Land You in Jail When Driving in the UAE

7 Things That Can Land You In Jail When Driving In The UAE...

Prepare For Thrills as The Woman In Black Returns to Dubai

Prepare For Thrills As The Woman In Black Returns To Dubai...

Everything You Need to Know About Seizures

Everything You Need To Know About Seizures...

Offer: Special Discount Packages Exclusively from Medcare

Offer: Special Discount Packages Exclusively From Medcare...

Offer: Lasik for AED 4500 ONLY at Medcare Eye Centre

Offer: Lasik For AED 4500 ONLY At Medcare Eye Centre...

Cityland Mall Preview: Dubai

Cityland Mall Preview: Dubai's New Nature-Inspired Shopping Mall...

Main Menu   Sites
DubaiDubai
Sign in to your account
Username:
Password:
Remember me?
Forgot Password? Join
Sign in to your account Close window Username: Password: 3 Users Currently Online