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Need urgent feedback with regards to schools asap plz!!!

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 May 2015 - 21:48

Hi all,

Really need your help asap! We're finally in Dubai & have had assessments at gems wellington primary school and horizon english school...we got accepted at gems wps so far. We have an assessment at Repton coming up, however, considering that they want us to pay 1500aed just for the assessment (we haven't paid yet), I'm abit hesitant to go...is it worth it or should I just cancel it & go with gems wps (or horizon if we get accepted)??? I'm abit confused so would really like everyone's feedback on this. Thankyou so much in advance.

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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 15:09
Thankyou! I'm happy to hear that as we are also Arab by origin but as we were born & raised in the UK our Arabic is not perfect but we want our kids to learn as much Arabic as possible. We can read & write to a certain level & we both speak the language in our respective dialects, my son also understands & speaks it as a second language. I think they didn't mention it as we have British passports, so they must have assumed we would go for the Arabic for non-Arabs...I will email them to let them know what we want. Thanks so much for that ☺️ Sounds like your background is similar to mine, in which case if I was you I would push for Arabic for Arabs. At GWPS they have different level groups within Arabic for Arabs, it's not that all children take the same because they recognise that there are children that move to Dubai as Arabs but don't speak Arabic, but have to take Arabic for Arabs so they try to accomodate. As long as you know the basics then you can help with the homework and might find that you learn some things yourself...or at least that's certainly the case with me as I speak our dialect of Arabic but struggle with reading and writing! I told them that we have British passports but I want my daughter to take Arabic for Arabs as we are originally Arabs and that was never an issue with the school. Worst case you always have the option to fall back on your British passports and ask for your children to be moved to Arabic for non-Arabs later in the year (I know people that have done this). If you have decided on GWPS, you'll find that the Arabic teachers are quite personable with the parents and will call to speak to you at any time on your child's progress which is reassuring as they tell you the areas where they may need particular focus. That's great. I've just emailed the registrar about it & hopefully we will be accepting their offer this week ? So happy that's out of the way! Can I just ask where do parents whose kids go to gwps or nearby schools live? We had a quick look and found that the area (jumeirah) is quite expensive! I know they have buses but, if we have to use it, I don't want my child in the bus for too long... If you're not insistent on villa living then apartments on the GWPS side of Shk Zayed road are not very expensive if you pick an older building... we used to stay in Jumeirah Skyline Residence and our rents were AED 110 for a 3 bedroom however if you want to go for villas then you will need to look for villas in satwa or al badaa for cheaper rents... but be warned the area is not the best for families as they have many of the older villas being used as shared accommodation among single women, bachelors, etc.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 14:28
Thankyou! I'm happy to hear that as we are also Arab by origin but as we were born & raised in the UK our Arabic is not perfect but we want our kids to learn as much Arabic as possible. We can read & write to a certain level & we both speak the language in our respective dialects, my son also understands & speaks it as a second language. I think they didn't mention it as we have British passports, so they must have assumed we would go for the Arabic for non-Arabs...I will email them to let them know what we want. Thanks so much for that ☺️ Sounds like your background is similar to mine, in which case if I was you I would push for Arabic for Arabs. At GWPS they have different level groups within Arabic for Arabs, it's not that all children take the same because they recognise that there are children that move to Dubai as Arabs but don't speak Arabic, but have to take Arabic for Arabs so they try to accomodate. As long as you know the basics then you can help with the homework and might find that you learn some things yourself...or at least that's certainly the case with me as I speak our dialect of Arabic but struggle with reading and writing! I told them that we have British passports but I want my daughter to take Arabic for Arabs as we are originally Arabs and that was never an issue with the school. Worst case you always have the option to fall back on your British passports and ask for your children to be moved to Arabic for non-Arabs later in the year (I know people that have done this). If you have decided on GWPS, you'll find that the Arabic teachers are quite personable with the parents and will call to speak to you at any time on your child's progress which is reassuring as they tell you the areas where they may need particular focus. That's great. I've just emailed the registrar about it & hopefully we will be accepting their offer this week ? So happy that's out of the way! Can I just ask where do parents whose kids go to gwps or nearby schools live? We had a quick look and found that the area (jumeirah) is quite expensive! I know they have buses but, if we have to use it, I don't want my child in the bus for too long...
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EW GURU
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 13:39
Thankyou! I'm happy to hear that as we are also Arab by origin but as we were born & raised in the UK our Arabic is not perfect but we want our kids to learn as much Arabic as possible. We can read & write to a certain level & we both speak the language in our respective dialects, my son also understands & speaks it as a second language. I think they didn't mention it as we have British passports, so they must have assumed we would go for the Arabic for non-Arabs...I will email them to let them know what we want. Thanks so much for that ☺️ Sounds like your background is similar to mine, in which case if I was you I would push for Arabic for Arabs. At GWPS they have different level groups within Arabic for Arabs, it's not that all children take the same because they recognise that there are children that move to Dubai as Arabs but don't speak Arabic, but have to take Arabic for Arabs so they try to accomodate. As long as you know the basics then you can help with the homework and might find that you learn some things yourself...or at least that's certainly the case with me as I speak our dialect of Arabic but struggle with reading and writing! I told them that we have British passports but I want my daughter to take Arabic for Arabs as we are originally Arabs and that was never an issue with the school. Worst case you always have the option to fall back on your British passports and ask for your children to be moved to Arabic for non-Arabs later in the year (I know people that have done this). If you have decided on GWPS, you'll find that the Arabic teachers are quite personable with the parents and will call to speak to you at any time on your child's progress which is reassuring as they tell you the areas where they may need particular focus.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 12:04
Thankyou! I'm happy to hear that as we are also Arab by origin but as we were born & raised in the UK our Arabic is not perfect but we want our kids to learn as much Arabic as possible. We can read & write to a certain level & we both speak the language in our respective dialects, my son also understands & speaks it as a second language. I think they didn't mention it as we have British passports, so they must have assumed we would go for the Arabic for non-Arabs...I will email them to let them know what we want. Thanks so much for that ☺️
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EW GURU
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 11:07
In some schools there is Arabic A, B & C A - for fluent Arabic speakers B- for those who speak Arabic as a second language at home C- for none Arabs / none Arabic speakers Agree with Sey - if a child is exposed to some Arabic at home, s/he might be fine with Arabic A. I thought my son will struggle with Arabic at school, he's in FS2, but he is doing fine and he can already read & write in Arabic. His spoken Arabic now is much better since he started school. He was raised bilingual but English was easier for him when he was younger.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 10:40
Hiya, I can't really help with whether or not you should pay for the assessment or not, because that is really a personal decision. What I can do is give you some reassurance with regards to GWPS. I have a child there in year 2 and my youngest starting in FS2 in September. My eldest has been there since FS2. I honestly have very little negative to say about the school. The current principal only started this year, and the school is going from strength to strength so I can only really seeing it improving. The biggest issue for me personally is probably Arabic and Islamic, but i'm not sure that those would be of much importance to you, and even then I can't say that they are bad it's just that the need to re-evaluate the way that they educate these subjects - which is something that I know is now of high focus for the school. This is an issue in a lot of schools and certainly not unique to GWPS, the methods for teaching Arabic and Islamic are somewhat dated and the curriculum is fixed by the KHDA so it's a tough area. I think if you have been to see GWPS and got a good feeling then I would just go with it. Everyone has a different opinion/feel about schools and you will never get a right or wrong answer, so go with what has given you the best vibe. You will have so many adjustments right now that I would probably try to keep things simple and at least give your mind some rest when it comes to the schools. GWPS is certainly not a bad school and I don't think you will regret your choice. I hope this helps! Sey83 - I wanted to ask you about the Arabic classes at gwps as I forgot to ask the school when I did the tour! I've heard some schools have two types of Arabic classes depending on the child- arabic A for those whose first language is arabic & arabic B for those who don't speak Arabic...is that the case in gwps aswell? If so, do the parents decide which one they want for their child? Thanks in advance. Hiya, yes it's the same as what you have described. They have Arabic for Arabs and Arabic for non-Arabs. The children automatically get assigned into Arabic for Arabs if they have Arab passports and Arabic for non-Arabs for all other nationalities. Having said that we have British passports but we are of Arabic origin so I requested Arabic for Arabs for my daughter which was no issue at all. The Arabic for Arabs have a class every day, Arabic for non-Arabs is three times a week. On top of that my daughter has Islamic three times a week (Arabs have Islamic in Arabic and non-Arab Muslims have Islamic in English). I have always thought that anybody who has a child starting Arabic right from the start (be it Arab or non-Arab) should try the Arabic for Arabs. There is a huge difference in what they learn and they come out properly knowing how to read and write. Even though we are Arabs, my daughter could barely say two words in Arabic when she first started and just spoke English at home and is doing fine. I know children that have done Arabic for non-Arabs for pretty much every year of their school life and can barely speak two words so it seems to be more of a tick the box exercise which is a shame. However, if they are coming to Dubai in older school years then they would struggle with Arabic for Arabs. I think Lolacat also makes a good point which is that you would struggle with the Arabic homework if there are no native Arabic speakers at home. The Arabic workload is higher than the English workload, I can't say we spend hours doing the homework, but as she still struggles with the language somebody needs to sit with her to explain what she is reading and help her writing (usually me but my Arabic isn't great but we get by!) - unfortunately Arabic is a very very difficult subject and there is a huge difference in classical Arabic, which is what is taught and how we read and write, and spoken colloquial Arabic, where every country speaks quite differently - there are some Arabic accents that other Arabs can't even understand! Having said all of this, I also know that a child not doing well, or failing, Arabic would not affect their academic progress in the school. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 31 May 2015 - 10:09
There is no *think* about it. Arabic is mandatory for all students in Dubai. Exceptions can be sought for children who have special needs, i.e. dyslexia. All schools have to adhere to the number of hours set by KHDA for non-Arabic and Arabic speakers. Unfortunately Arabic for non Arabic speakers is not always taught to the same standard of other mainstream subjects, even though the number of hours imparted is quite a lot. The KHDA inspection reports often flag this area up. You would need to discuss with the individual school about moving into an Arabic A stream, although this is quite rare and very hard to do, without being a native Arabic speaker yourself you may find the homework load very hard to deal with. I would suggest you settle in to school and see how Arabic and the timetable is implemented before you rush into making any decisions.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 30 May 2015 - 23:25
Hi I think all schools have Arabic and Arabic B. I think if your child has an Arab passport they have to do Arabic A. You may be able to opt out of this at special request but the policy is designed to promote the Arabic language. Children with a significant special need can app,y to opt out of Arabic altogether. That's what I thought, but during the tour they never mentioned it so wanted to be certain...we have UK passports but would like my son to do more arabic if possible.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 30 May 2015 - 10:40
Hi I think all schools have Arabic and Arabic B. I think if your child has an Arab passport they have to do Arabic A. You may be able to opt out of this at special request but the policy is designed to promote the Arabic language. Children with a significant special need can app,y to opt out of Arabic altogether.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 30 May 2015 - 01:51
Hiya, I can't really help with whether or not you should pay for the assessment or not, because that is really a personal decision. What I can do is give you some reassurance with regards to GWPS. I have a child there in year 2 and my youngest starting in FS2 in September. My eldest has been there since FS2. I honestly have very little negative to say about the school. The current principal only started this year, and the school is going from strength to strength so I can only really seeing it improving. The biggest issue for me personally is probably Arabic and Islamic, but i'm not sure that those would be of much importance to you, and even then I can't say that they are bad it's just that the need to re-evaluate the way that they educate these subjects - which is something that I know is now of high focus for the school. This is an issue in a lot of schools and certainly not unique to GWPS, the methods for teaching Arabic and Islamic are somewhat dated and the curriculum is fixed by the KHDA so it's a tough area. I think if you have been to see GWPS and got a good feeling then I would just go with it. Everyone has a different opinion/feel about schools and you will never get a right or wrong answer, so go with what has given you the best vibe. You will have so many adjustments right now that I would probably try to keep things simple and at least give your mind some rest when it comes to the schools. GWPS is certainly not a bad school and I don't think you will regret your choice. I hope this helps! Sey83 - I wanted to ask you about the Arabic classes at gwps as I forgot to ask the school when I did the tour! I've heard some schools have two types of Arabic classes depending on the child- arabic A for those whose first language is arabic & arabic B for those who don't speak Arabic...is that the case in gwps aswell? If so, do the parents decide which one they want for their child? Thanks in advance.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 11:55
Thanks so much for the feedback guys. So I have just come back from the tours of horizon & gwps...I'm definitely happy with both schools & I like the fact that they are smaller schools as you have all mentioned too. Repton is very different in that it is a big school. I am going to go with one of the smaller ones & just cancel Repton. I'm leaning towards gwps at the moment, but will wait until we get a reply from horizon on the assessment results. Thanks so much, I'm feeling much better :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 11:21
Go for the smaller more nurturing school, take the WPS place and don’t waste your money with any more schools.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 10:47
Dont confuse yourself by adding a third option (repton) to the mix. Horizon and WPS are both lovely schools. Accept their offers (whichever comes first) and move on with other more important stuff that comes with moving to a new country,
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EW GURU
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 10:16
Hiya, I can't really help with whether or not you should pay for the assessment or not, because that is really a personal decision. What I can do is give you some reassurance with regards to GWPS. I have a child there in year 2 and my youngest starting in FS2 in September. My eldest has been there since FS2. I honestly have very little negative to say about the school. The current principal only started this year, and the school is going from strength to strength so I can only really seeing it improving. The biggest issue for me personally is probably Arabic and Islamic, but i'm not sure that those would be of much importance to you, and even then I can't say that they are bad it's just that the need to re-evaluate the way that they educate these subjects - which is something that I know is now of high focus for the school. This is an issue in a lot of schools and certainly not unique to GWPS, the methods for teaching Arabic and Islamic are somewhat dated and the curriculum is fixed by the KHDA so it's a tough area. I think if you have been to see GWPS and got a good feeling then I would just go with it. Everyone has a different opinion/feel about schools and you will never get a right or wrong answer, so go with what has given you the best vibe. You will have so many adjustments right now that I would probably try to keep things simple and at least give your mind some rest when it comes to the schools. GWPS is certainly not a bad school and I don't think you will regret your choice. I hope this helps!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 09:09
How old is your child and how academically focused are they? I was in a similar position last year and my children did the assessments for Repton and a Gems school through their own school at home who coordinated it with the Registrar there. Do the tour, don't do the assessment yet and don't rush your decision. If financially it is difficult for you and you find you are happy with the other schools that you have seen, then make your decision on the that basis. But try to see all the schools would be my advice and then decide which fits best with both your budget and your child's needs.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 00:47
Regarding Repton The 1500 AED ( 500 registration fees+ 1000 assessment fees ) You can go to the tour without paying that sum of money. Check the school facilities and how do you feel about it. Or You can pay registration fees and ask to postpone the assessment if you want to take your time Hi Mesho- I don't live in the UAE yet, we're just here for this week as my son is on half-term, so we don't have time to postpone the assessment or to do the tour beforehand. So I basically have to make my mind up now.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 27 May 2015 - 00:20
Regarding Repton The 1500 AED ( 500 registration fees+ 1000 assessment fees ) You can go to the tour without paying that sum of money. Check the school facilities and how do you feel about it. Or You can pay registration fees and ask to postpone the assessment if you want to take your time
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 May 2015 - 23:17
Is that the original Horizon (near Safa Park) or Horizon International? Is the 1500 for one child or for more? Repton did achieve outstanding in the recent round of inspections. How did the other schools fare? Have you done a tour of Repton to see how it feels to you? Hi plum2- yes, it's horizon next to Safa park. The 1500aed is for one child...everywhere else they ask for 500aed. I am having a tour of Repton on the day of the assessment. The other two I will tour tomorrow morning. Im worried that I'll be wasting 1500aed on Repton...we might not get accepted, and, even if we did get accepted, I don't even know if I would take their offer over one of the other two schools mentioned. If we decide not to bother with Repton then I will need to cancel the assessment. I think if we hadn't received the offer from gems wps so soon then I would have definitely been happy to go for the assessment at Repton, but now that we have an offer I keep thinking what's the point in paying so much for Repton...
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 May 2015 - 22:52
Is that the original Horizon (near Safa Park) or Horizon International? Is the 1500 for one child or for more? Repton did achieve outstanding in the recent round of inspections. How did the other schools fare? Have you done a tour of Repton to see how it feels to you?
 
 

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