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EmilyG
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26/06/2012 12:41:21
My dd's nursery teacher wore a headscarf this year and it didn't bother me in the slightest. She is a wonderful teacher, my dd loves her and that is what matters.
However there are certain countries in the west where this could have been considered an issue. For this reason, certain nurseries and schools here do not encourage women to cover (although they will never come out and say this officially). I have to say that I am surprised they raised the question in your interview.
Good luck and I hope you find a job you like in an environment in which you are comfortable.
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emmess
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26/06/2012 12:32:36
Some of my children's teachers do wear a head scarf in their elementary school (international), and no, it doesn't bother me at all. As long as the teacher is good at what she does and is kind to the children - it doesn't make a difference to me what they wear. I don't understand why they asked you that either. So strange being that it's a Muslim country. Maybe not the best place to work!
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hilsbils
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26/06/2012 11:10:38
Really the point is that we are in a Muslim country where children see abayas and all sorts of kandoras, turbans, shalwars etc and mingle with so many different types of children that they are surely unfazed by a teacher wearing a headscarf? Its the norm
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allatsea
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26/06/2012 11:07:23
spongemonkey wrote: allatsea wrote: spongemonkey wrote: allatsea wrote:
what is their rationale for asking you to remove it! I cannot imagine it has any impact on the job you are doing or on the children. There seems to be some push to removing all types of religious / cultural expression which personally I feel is likely to lead us further from understanding and tolerance of the differences between us. We are here from the UK and I would prefer my LO to be exposed to the different cultures I see it as one of the benefits of living abroad. As someone else said what you wear is really irrelevent (to a degree obviously!) it is far more important that you are good at your job / with the children. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. so as hilsbils has said - would you object of they wore a vest top and shorts? Not sure that vest top and shorts would be considered a cultural or religious expression? More to do with the comment " what you wear is really irrelevant .......it is far more important that you are good at your job..."
to a degree obviously????
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spongemonkey
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26/06/2012 10:26:06
allatsea wrote: spongemonkey wrote: allatsea wrote:
what is their rationale for asking you to remove it! I cannot imagine it has any impact on the job you are doing or on the children. There seems to be some push to removing all types of religious / cultural expression which personally I feel is likely to lead us further from understanding and tolerance of the differences between us. We are here from the UK and I would prefer my LO to be exposed to the different cultures I see it as one of the benefits of living abroad. As someone else said what you wear is really irrelevent (to a degree obviously!) it is far more important that you are good at your job / with the children. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. so as hilsbils has said - would you object of they wore a vest top and shorts? Not sure that vest top and shorts would be considered a cultural or religious expression?
More to do with the comment " what you wear is really irrelevant .......it is far more important that you are good at your job..."
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ayaana
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26/06/2012 10:25:26
Thanx for all your support and advice ladies! Im glad I was not offered the job as I would never be comfortable there.
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allatsea
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26/06/2012 10:19:07
spongemonkey wrote: allatsea wrote:
what is their rationale for asking you to remove it! I cannot imagine it has any impact on the job you are doing or on the children. There seems to be some push to removing all types of religious / cultural expression which personally I feel is likely to lead us further from understanding and tolerance of the differences between us. We are here from the UK and I would prefer my LO to be exposed to the different cultures I see it as one of the benefits of living abroad. As someone else said what you wear is really irrelevent (to a degree obviously!) it is far more important that you are good at your job / with the children. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. so as hilsbils has said - would you object of they wore a vest top and shorts?
Not sure that vest top and shorts would be considered a cultural or religious expression?
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spongemonkey
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26/06/2012 10:15:52
allatsea wrote:
what is their rationale for asking you to remove it! I cannot imagine it has any impact on the job you are doing or on the children. There seems to be some push to removing all types of religious / cultural expression which personally I feel is likely to lead us further from understanding and tolerance of the differences between us. We are here from the UK and I would prefer my LO to be exposed to the different cultures I see it as one of the benefits of living abroad. As someone else said what you wear is really irrelevent (to a degree obviously!) it is far more important that you are good at your job / with the children. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
so as hilsbils has said - would you object of they wore a vest top and shorts?
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ayaana
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26/06/2012 10:15:14
Thank you mrs potato head for the link.
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hilsbils
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26/06/2012 10:11:09
The probably dont mind the teachers wearing lycra hotpants and vest tops to work then?
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kelly1814
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26/06/2012 09:56:59
Cheeky Monkey wrote:
I couldn't care what my DD's teacher wore, I want a teacher who knows her stuff, can teach it to my child in the best way possible and to be firm but kind. She could be wearing a clown outfit with a big red nose for all I care! (actually that might be quite fun.... but sorry, that's an entirely different topic!).
I would say if they are so bothered about a head scarf in a MUSLIM country then you are best not working for them as I am sure they would cause you a lot of headaches over other issues. There is a job out there for you where you will be judged on your skills, not your clothes! Good luck and lucky escape I say.
oooh well said!
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allatsea
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26/06/2012 09:50:54
what is their rationale for asking you to remove it! I cannot imagine it has any impact on the job you are doing or on the children. There seems to be some push to removing all types of religious / cultural expression which personally I feel is likely to lead us further from understanding and tolerance of the differences between us. We are here from the UK and I would prefer my LO to be exposed to the different cultures I see it as one of the benefits of living abroad. As someone else said what you wear is really irrelevent (to a degree obviously!) it is far more important that you are good at your job / with the children. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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hilsbils
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26/06/2012 09:08:00
If you read the other thread from 2010, the teacher ended getting fired!!
A very sh!te story
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arohadxb
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26/06/2012 09:06:35
simpleasabc wrote: arohadxb wrote: Mrs Potato Head wrote:
Deja vu anyone?
We've had this exact situation in the past from an EWer..... I have deja vu MOST days reading EW   fx: Waves at arohanolongerdxb /fx Nice to see you here ETA: On topic, I'd be curious to know if this is something which happens often or whether the same nursery as before is concerned? edited by simpleasabc on 26/06/2012
hiya simples!
Even though this sort of thing must happen, for it to be bought up, I just cannot get my head around the mindset that would even consider requesting such a thing here.
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simpleasabc
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26/06/2012 08:47:17
arohadxb wrote: Mrs Potato Head wrote:
Deja vu anyone?
We've had this exact situation in the past from an EWer..... I have deja vu MOST days reading EW
fx: Waves at arohanolongerdxb /fx
Nice to see you here
ETA: On topic, I'd be curious to know if this is something which happens often or whether the same nursery as before is concerned?
edited by simpleasabc on 26/06/2012
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arohadxb
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26/06/2012 08:23:53
Mrs Potato Head wrote:
Deja vu anyone?
We've had this exact situation in the past from an EWer.....
I have deja vu MOST days reading EW
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Monkey Face
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26/06/2012 08:20:37
ishehere wrote:
is it actually legal to ask a muslim woman to uncover for work?
I would imagine a good lawyer could make it illegal, as somehow going against Shariah.
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ishehere
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26/06/2012 06:43:44
is it actually legal to ask a muslim woman to uncover for work?
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Mrs Potato Head
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26/06/2012 06:24:34
http://www.expatwoman.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=128188
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Mrs Potato Head
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26/06/2012 06:23:29
Deja vu anyone?
We've had this exact situation in the past from an EWer.....
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Ali.K
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26/06/2012 05:07:50
I think I'd be highly offended at that question! And probably not a nice place to work - we do live in a Muslim country after all!!
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dramaqn
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26/06/2012 01:47:25
My DS's teacher wears scarf and few others in the nursery. It doesn't really make difference to me or DS as we know that she is caring towards kids and she knows her stuff. DS has learned a lot during his time. If they've asked this question, this nursery is probably not for you as it shows that they are insensitive to the religion and Muslim beliefs. I am sure you can find a right nursery that you will be comfortable in.
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Cheeky Monkey
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26/06/2012 01:39:05
I couldn't care what my DD's teacher wore, I want a teacher who knows her stuff, can teach it to my child in the best way possible and to be firm but kind. She could be wearing a clown outfit with a big red nose for all I care! (actually that might be quite fun.... but sorry, that's an entirely different topic!).
I would say if they are so bothered about a head scarf in a MUSLIM country then you are best not working for them as I am sure they would cause you a lot of headaches over other issues. There is a job out there for you where you will be judged on your skills, not your clothes! Good luck and lucky escape I say.
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Jetset
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26/06/2012 00:05:15
We live in Dubai and that is what you wear! It should not matter at all, and you should never have been asked!
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ayaana
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25/06/2012 23:52:50
I went for an interview today and the first question the lady asked me was what the situation with my head scarf was?! If I'd remove it as there weren't any men in the nursery. She continued to explain that some times fathers or Male therapists do come but they'd tell me. I really didn't know what to say. Thinking about it even now i can't understand why it matters whether I keep it on or not. would it bother you if your child's teacher wore a head scarf? Is there something I'm not seeing here?
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