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Latest post on 05 January 2015 - 11:01

There is a huge difference between a maid and a nanny.... very few people in Dubai seem to know the difference. Perhaps if children were left with qualified nannies and not unqulaified maids, then there would be no need for cameras. My point exactly. Over and over again. I just cannot understand how people insist they have a nanny whereas they pay them around 7 dhs/hr and have them clean toilets and do the ironing as well. Hire a nanny and I really don't think you need a camera.

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Latest post on 05 January 2015 - 10:58

Just saw a very disturbing video posted on fb about a maid beating up a toddler. Feel so sick. Please please install cameras. We all have our constraints but if we must leave kids with any help we MUST have surveillance. The irony here is that there was a camera recording the event, the baby still got hurt and camera or not the maid would have been found guilty as the poor wee thing was in her sole charge. How exactly did the camera help this wee child? <em>edited by Lolacat on 05/01/2015</em>

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Latest post on 05 January 2015 - 10:57

I personally know someone whose brother was molested by his nanny. They had her for years since they were small kids, and when the brother was 11 he finally told his parents about the molestation. She had been doing it for years but he had been too scared to tell his parents. This stuff does happen, you can thumbs down all you want. If that family had some cameras installed, they would have caught her a lot sooner and saved the boy years of torment. We wouldn't leave our precious diamond jewellery alone with the maids, but somehow think it's alright to leave our kids unsupervised with them for hours. edited by sourskittleashnut on 05/01/2015 It's a naive and rather sad world to rely on a camera for child care.

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Latest post on 05 January 2015 - 10:55

Hi BR, Happy new years best wishes. Yes i saw the gulfnews write up on them. There is a thread on it too...i did not bother to look as there are so many bad vibes from trolls on here..you can tell by the thumbs down. (Pointless) Its a good service I think for who needs it. I still did not find a suitable nanny seems the hunt is tedious for a good caregiver. Hmm, trolls? Trolls tend to set up user names and have a conversation with themselves or advertise in a subliminal way. Discussion and difference of opinion is not trolling.

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Latest post on 05 January 2015 - 10:51

There is a huge difference between a maid and a nanny.... very few people in Dubai seem to know the difference. Perhaps if children were left with qualified nannies and not unqulaified maids, then there would be no need for cameras.

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Latest post on 05 January 2015 - 10:32

I personally know someone whose brother was molested by his nanny. They had her for years since they were small kids, and when the brother was 11 he finally told his parents about the molestation. She had been doing it for years but he had been too scared to tell his parents. This stuff does happen, you can thumbs down all you want. If that family had some cameras installed, they would have caught her a lot sooner and saved the boy years of torment. We wouldn't leave our precious diamond jewellery alone with the maids, but somehow think it's alright to leave our kids unsupervised with them for hours. <em>edited by sourskittleashnut on 05/01/2015</em>

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Latest post on 04 January 2015 - 22:29

Hi BR, Happy new years best wishes. Yes i saw the gulfnews write up on them. There is a thread on it too...i did not bother to look as there are so many bad vibes from trolls on here..you can tell by the thumbs down. (Pointless) Its a good service I think for who needs it. I still did not find a suitable nanny seems the hunt is tedious for a good caregiver. So if a poster disagrees with you or dislikes the idea of cameras it makes them a troll?

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Latest post on 04 January 2015 - 21:40

Hi BR, Happy new years best wishes. Yes i saw the gulfnews write up on them. There is a thread on it too...i did not bother to look as there are so many bad vibes from trolls on here..you can tell by the thumbs down. (Pointless) Its a good service I think for who needs it. I still did not find a suitable nanny seems the hunt is tedious for a good caregiver.

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Latest post on 04 January 2015 - 16:58

Happy New Year Pinkdiamondz! How are you? I have seen this company in Gulfnews over the weekend http://ow.ly/GHpef

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Latest post on 09 December 2014 - 13:24

Hi babyrasha, yes I contacted them and they were quick to call with all the information. Its a new service and i think it is wonderful for working parents as it lets them watch the footage and it is a monitored service so there is mom's monitoring the camera feed( babysitting the nanny). There is only 3 cameras depending on the internet speed that raised a big issue with me. I dont think it will work for me as I am a stay at home mom and there is no need for the monitoring for now unless i would start to work. Its a different set up, you basically rent the cameras they place in your home for a monthly fee incl. the monitoring. There is a instalation fee. I think its great but not for me now so in the new year i will be buying a whole camera system all over the house. And i have been told to make sure there is a camera in the kitchen, this is where alot of concerning things happen.

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Latest post on 09 December 2014 - 08:37

Thank you baby rasha...i never heard of them before. Email sent to them so i will get the full scoop on what they provide. I am also assuming like survalience companies can provide such things...its my next task. Hello Pinkdiamondz, did they get in touch with you? how was it?

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Latest post on 27 November 2014 - 15:22

I absolutely agree and stress on the fact that we should have nanny cams - i had a bad experience with my nanny and literally sent her home within hours. THANKS to the cam! Cams do not stop bad experiences but it does two things: one makes the nanny more vigilant and secondly if something has happened you know of it rather sooner than later especially when your baby cannot communicate to you dragon mart ones are old models - try to get foscam - very good!

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Latest post on 27 November 2014 - 09:04

Thank you baby rasha...i never heard of them before. Email sent to them so i will get the full scoop on what they provide. I am also assuming like survalience companies can provide such things...its my next task. you are welcome :) i checked their website and I think the concept is wonderful. I am just so lucky I don't need to hire a nanny. I'm a stay-at-home mum and my little one who goes to the nursery is turning 6 next month :)

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Latest post on 26 November 2014 - 21:21

Thank you baby rasha...i never heard of them before. Email sent to them so i will get the full scoop on what they provide. I am also assuming like survalience companies can provide such things...its my next task.

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Latest post on 26 November 2014 - 18:23

found it! Snapsights is the name of the company: snapsights.ae Sounds interesting, this would be first I think as I never heard of any companies who engage in monitoring aside from camera installation.

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Latest post on 26 November 2014 - 08:36

Surprised at people on here that dislike the idea of cameras! I for one know that there is reasons stores and hospitals etc. have cameras....to watch whats going on to make sure people know they are being watched. If i am at work i need to know if the nanny is good with my child, if she can think she will think twice about hitting or other horrible things knowing i can see the evidence. All the stories my doctor told me on saturday were in the arabic newspaper in the last 4 months and they were disturbing and shocking and " the nanny was loved by all of the families" so if you think you have the best nanny and trust there is always room to have a quick view of some footage then carry on with a smile if you like what you saw! My 1 year old has bruises from bumping into things as she starts walking so you can not blame a bruise on her caregiver! Babyrasha i am with you god forbid anyone do harm to my child... Moral of the story i think its a good back up to confirm or give yourself a birds eye on the childs day.

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 15:32

i saw that horrifying video as well! Good Lord! that nanny doesn't have a heart at all. As a mother I would know if my child have bruises or marks from beatings. If this happens, God forbid, I am going in jail for murder if someone dare touch my kid. Btw, I saw this FB post about a live feed monitoring company for children. It mentioned they are dubai police approved. I forgot the name but I'll check it. I think it is a brilliant idea. And to be honest, how do we really know if the nannies we hired are really doing their job whilst we are busy at work? I think camera monitors would be great so these nannies would act properly just so they are being monitored... *just my opinion... <em>edited by BabyRasha on 25/11/2014</em>

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 14:03

Although I do agree that the thread title is a bit hysterical, if I had to choose between leaving my baby in a nursery or with a "domestic servant" at home, I would choose the former. The reason is not because I would necessarily be afraid of her abusing my child but because of how she would react in an emergency. I knew of a case a few years ago where a very good nanny made a terrible mistake and rather than admitting to it, she lied to cover it up and ended up in jail. Many mothers say that an infant is too young to be in a nursery but at least nurseries have a certain protocol to follow in case of an emergency. I agree with you. However as even nurseries with full-year cover and extended hours have strange extended holidays (extra days for National Day, for example) and as kids can't go to nursery if they have sticky eye, or have vomited within the last 48 hours, etc, as well as if they are actually ill, if you work full time there isn't really an option of avoiding maid care altogether.

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 14:01

So glad to hear that Pinkdiamondz, you made my day. Judging from the dislikes I got on concern over helpess toddlers shows how sick our society has become. Seriously who are you and how sick are you? Calm down. I think people were disliking the situation, not your concern for children...

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 14:00

And I do agree with the others. Statistically speaking, parents do more harm to their children than caregivers...

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:58

Although I do agree that the thread title is a bit hysterical, if I had to choose between leaving my baby in a nursery or with a "domestic servant" at home, I would choose the former. The reason is not because I would necessarily be afraid of her abusing my child but because of how she would react in an emergency. I knew of a case a few years ago where a very good nanny made a terrible mistake and rather than admitting to it, she lied to cover it up and ended up in jail. Many mothers say that an infant is too young to be in a nursery but at least nurseries have a certain protocol to follow in case of an emergency.

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:51

I am not suggesting anything. Incidents take place, we can only put preventive measures in place and that was the intention of this thread. If I have caused anybody to take a decision in favour of installing cameras I think I am succesful. I NEVER leave my children alone with anybody till they are not able to come and talk to me. Peace, I'm done with this thread.

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:47

Chocfudge, do you install cameras if you are leaving your children with family friends? with uncles? aunts? do you only send them to nurseries with full camera cover? If someone knows a camera is present, how does that prevent anything other than them beating up the child in front of the camera? there are plenty of other places. The important thing is to be very very careful in your selection of who you leave your children with. Cameras may be helpful as a back up in some cases, but hidden cameras are apparently (I don't have first hand sources for this) not actually legal here, and disclosed cameras are about as useful at preventing incidents as visible speed cameras are at preventing speeding. And it is pretty offensive to suggest that all maids are a risk to children, just as it would be to suggest that all stepfathers (or even natural fathers, or come to that all mothers) are a risk to children on the basis of a very small number of events. Sandfly, wish I could have worded it this way. Fully agree!

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:42

Chocfudge, do you install cameras if you are leaving your children with family friends? with uncles? aunts? do you only send them to nurseries with full camera cover? If someone knows a camera is present, how does that prevent anything other than them beating up the child in front of the camera? there are plenty of other places. The important thing is to be very very careful in your selection of who you leave your children with. Cameras may be helpful as a back up in some cases, but hidden cameras are apparently (I don't have first hand sources for this) not actually legal here, and disclosed cameras are about as useful at preventing incidents as visible speed cameras are at preventing speeding. And it is pretty offensive to suggest that all maids are a risk to children, just as it would be to suggest that all stepfathers (or even natural fathers, or come to that all mothers) are a risk to children on the basis of a very small number of events.

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:40

And abuse by family members cannot be caught on camera?

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:38

Just saw a very disturbing video posted on fb about a maid beating up a toddler. Feel so sick. Please please install cameras. We all have our constraints but if we must leave kids with any help we MUST have surveillance. If you don't trust the person you leave your child with, don't leave your child with them. 67% of child abuse is inflicted by family members.

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Latest post on 25 November 2014 - 13:30

Just saw a very disturbing video posted on fb about a maid beating up a toddler. Feel so sick. Please please install cameras. We all have our constraints but if we must leave kids with any help we MUST have surveillance. How will a camera prevent your maid beating your child ?

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