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Latest post on 01 June 2012 - 08:36

Why would you allow that? I get that you were nervous but seriously you should just get out of the cab next time OR call RTA in front of him and complain. There's no way he'd do anything dodgy if you're on the phone to his company reporting him. What he did was totally inappropriate and you should report him. That's what I was thinking - why would you allow this? Immediately you felt he'd crossed the line you should have spoken up - he will think that he can get away with this behaviour. Especially that you weren't traveling alone, there were other ladies in the car. Ditto, now he is going to hit on some poor girl out alone, because you let him think it is ok and that some girls are 'easy'. You don't sit in the front of the taxi, there was room for 3 in the back, and you don't respond when they talk to you. Just say nothing. Why is that so hard? It is teasing. You do not need to say 'dunno' or ask him why he is asking how long you have been married.....any response means he has your attention, and quite frankly he did not are about your answer, he just cared that you answered him, his mind was between his pants and nowhere in between. A little harsh and perhaps slightly over the top remarks IMO I hardly think the OP's reaction is going to suddenly change the taxi driver's intentions in the future....his intentions were clear and you can bet he realised she was new to Dubai and was clearly taking advantage. Totally agree ouat, next thing we'll be hearing the OP encouraged him or was inappropriately dressed. It WASN"T HER FAULT!! I'm not saying it's her fault it happened and in NO WAY did I or would I ever imply that the clothes women wear make them either deserving or otherwise of harrassment. [b'>Well then perhaps you ought to choose your words more carefully. You made the OP responsible for a fictional future attack, said she had made the taxi driver believe that girls were easy & accused her of teasing him. Outrageous![/b'> What I'm saying is that, even though it feels safe here, we as (strong) women should take responsibility of our safety and demand respect! If a man behaves in an inappropriate manner towards me be it verbally or physically, I know that no white knight is going to ride up and save me. I have to look after myself as we all do. The OP is new here and so fair enough, she didn't know what to do, but seriously I hear of so many women here who get into trouble and it's often because they're scared to stand up for themselves. You have every right to do so, within the law obviously edited by BrownEyedGirl on 01/06/2012 Oh did I? Perhaps you should read things more carefully as I said none of those things, I only said she shouldn't allow him to make her feel uncomfortable and should either get out the cab or call someone in authority. Are those words careful enough? :\:

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Latest post on 01 June 2012 - 00:59

Why would you allow that? I get that you were nervous but seriously you should just get out of the cab next time OR call RTA in front of him and complain. There's no way he'd do anything dodgy if you're on the phone to his company reporting him. What he did was totally inappropriate and you should report him. That's what I was thinking - why would you allow this? Immediately you felt he'd crossed the line you should have spoken up - he will think that he can get away with this behaviour. Especially that you weren't traveling alone, there were other ladies in the car. Ditto, now he is going to hit on some poor girl out alone, because you let him think it is ok and that some girls are 'easy'. You don't sit in the front of the taxi, there was room for 3 in the back, and you don't respond when they talk to you. Just say nothing. Why is that so hard? It is teasing. You do not need to say 'dunno' or ask him why he is asking how long you have been married.....any response means he has your attention, and quite frankly he did not are about your answer, he just cared that you answered him, his mind was between his pants and nowhere in between. A little harsh and perhaps slightly over the top remarks IMO I hardly think the OP's reaction is going to suddenly change the taxi driver's intentions in the future....his intentions were clear and you can bet he realised she was new to Dubai and was clearly taking advantage. Totally agree ouat, next thing we'll be hearing the OP encouraged him or was inappropriately dressed. It WASN"T HER FAULT!! I'm not saying it's her fault it happened and in NO WAY did I or would I ever imply that the clothes women wear make them either deserving or otherwise of harrassment. [b'>Well then perhaps you ought to choose your words more carefully. You made the OP responsible for a fictional future attack, said she had made the taxi driver believe that girls were easy & accused her of teasing him. Outrageous![/b'> What I'm saying is that, even though it feels safe here, we as (strong) women should take responsibility of our safety and demand respect! If a man behaves in an inappropriate manner towards me be it verbally or physically, I know that no white knight is going to ride up and save me. I have to look after myself as we all do. The OP is new here and so fair enough, she didn't know what to do, but seriously I hear of so many women here who get into trouble and it's often because they're scared to stand up for themselves. You have every right to do so, within the law obviously <em>edited by BrownEyedGirl on 01/06/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 23:43

I rarely take taxi, so when it happens i put my sunglas and look to window avoiding eye contact. Once i was with my kids and his mirror was adjusted in a way he can stare at the passenger all the times, he was staring at me and felt uncomfortable. I firmly told him to readjust it. If they start a conversation i ignore, and tell firmly not to ask questions. Some are even not ashamed even though i am dressing abaya and a headscarf. Its not treating them as sub humans, but i can well differentiate from the looks and talks whats appropriate and whats not. And I love what MonkeyFace said. We must not forget that decent drivers outnumber undecent ones. <em>edited by Flower33 on 31/05/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 23:11

Girls I've only been in the country for 4 weeks so I don't even know what number to call or who the RTA is until you told me :( I know now what to do in the future. Thanks for your advise. Yet on your blog you say that you have read all the FAQs about Dubai? You must have missed the ones about taxis and what to be aware of? http://www.dubaifaqs.com/taxi-dubai.php Wow I can't believe this thread had gone on for so long! I've made the complaint already this morning. Anyways thanks spongemonkey for the link - and no we didn't read through every single thing on that site before we came here.Just the this and thats on what to wear/not to wear, visas, rules. There's so much to learn. And to everyone else, I appreciate the headsup/input. Next time I get into a taxi, any taxi, I'll just note down the license beforehand. <em>edited by ashesc on 31/05/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 21:11

Girls I've only been in the country for 4 weeks so I don't even know what number to call or who the RTA is until you told me :( I know now what to do in the future. Thanks for your advise. Yet on your blog you say that you have read all the FAQs about Dubai? You must have missed the ones about taxis and what to be aware of? http://www.dubaifaqs.com/taxi-dubai.php

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 21:03

Please report it immediately. I have just received this email from my DS secondary school. Scary! Dear Parents Yesterday I was advised by a fellow Headteacher in Dubai that one of their female key stage 3 students was subjected to a very unpleasant and disturbing incident on Tuesday of this week. As such I feel I have a duty of care to share this information with you. At 4.40 pm (i.e. this happened in broad daylight) the student concerned took a taxi home after an extra curricular activity. Thereafter the taxi driver physically exposed himself to the young girl. After dropping her off he then hovered around her home for some time. Very sensibly she took the taxi number; this will enable the police to pursue the matter further. He then left. The student was not physically harmed at all, though both she and her parents were naturally very distressed. The following advice emerges out of this very unpleasant incident: if your child takes a taxi please ask that they make a call to yourselves (or even a dummy call, if needs be), stating the taxi number and the colour of the roof. The colour of the roof is important as different cabs can have the same number, so the colour of the roof defines precisely which cab they are travelling in. Obviously this information needs to be conveyed loud enough for the driver to hear. Such incidents are clearly not the norm and should not lead to students refraining from using taxis, however it will help to give yourselves and your children peace of mind if you were to adopt, if you do not already, the advice outlined previously. Kind Regards I'm bumping this as I think it is relevant in the context.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 20:57

Can I play devils advocate here and say yes, while some cabbies push their luck and can be inappropriate, there is nothing wrong in having a friendly conversation. Can you imagine that most of these guys have probably not seen their wives or families for maybe 2+ years? You can't expect them to do a 14 hour shift in silence and not speak to anyone - be human - you'd go insane if you had to do that day in, day out every single day. So yes on some occasions you have to be firm and make it clear on certain things, but don't treat these guys like they are sub-human. I've had some right old interesting conversations with cabbies here, perhaps if people showed more of an interest in one another instead of being so offish all the time, things might be better. Would you get into a London cab and not have the guy yapping away to you virtually the whole journey? Of course you would. It doesn't mean that you are treating them as if they are sub human because you don't talk to them other than the necessary. Any complaints and the police would tell you that you should NOT have got involved in a personal conversation with taxi drivers here. OP I don't know where you are from but you need to adopt an attitude that will discourage such behaviour if it should arise.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 20:27

How disheartening...no taxi driver's ever asked me if i'm married... Nor me Sue, maybe there is something to be said for being an old trout :D

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 20:21

When I lived in Abu Dhabi that used to happen all the time with taxi drivers even sitting in the back. You used to get drivers taking photos of their sons out saying you have nice friend marry my son? Nice one like you. Or you married? How many children? You ask dr for pill for boy children only.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 18:44

A good thing to do is always make note of the taxi number BEFORE you get into the taxi. They are always visible on the outside. That way if they have ripped that bit of the sticker off you still have the number if there is a problem. I almost always call my husband as soon as I get in and tell him in a loud voice the taxi has picked me up and how soon I estimate I'll be wherever I'm going so that the driver knows that someone knows exactly where I am (even if my husband doesn't answer the call!). I also always ask their 'advice' when I get in such as 'do you think SZR or Al Kahil will be better at this time, I think Al Kahil......' so that they know that I know the way around and don't take me for a ride. Establish as soon as you get in you know what you are doing and tell them immediately and in no uncertain terms you don't want to talk if you think it is going in the wrong direction. They will know who not to mess with. Re: ladies' taxis, I just saw one today. We took one from the airport a couple of weeks ago and the woman driver said that the male drivers are always given fares first (particularly those that appear 'lucrative') and the women drivers only as a last resort or if someone insists. So maybe next time insist.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 18:01

Can I play devils advocate here and say yes, while some cabbies push their luck and can be inappropriate, there is nothing wrong in having a friendly conversation. Can you imagine that most of these guys have probably not seen their wives or families for maybe 2+ years? You can't expect them to do a 14 hour shift in silence and not speak to anyone - be human - you'd go insane if you had to do that day in, day out every single day. So yes on some occasions you have to be firm and make it clear on certain things, but don't treat these guys like they are sub-human. I've had some right old interesting conversations with cabbies here, perhaps if people showed more of an interest in one another instead of being so offish all the time, things might be better. Would you get into a London cab and not have the guy yapping away to you virtually the whole journey? Of course you would.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:55

I was just at the airport and the ladies taxis were there waiting for passengers. Oh good :D Good to know. Maybe they didn't understand what dd was saying.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:50

I was just at the airport and the ladies taxis were there waiting for passengers. Oh good :D

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:49

If it is all women/children travelling - you can always specifically book a ladies taxi. They're still not so flash with their driving though, in my experience DD tried to book a ladies' taxi a few weeks back but they said they don't have them anymore? In the end parents shared lifts. Really?! Was not aware of that. Haven't used one for a couple of months or more, so could be true. Thats a shame though - when arriving at the airport alone I wont be ushered off quickly to the ladies taxi's anymore and will have to wait in line for a regular one with everyone else! lol

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:48

How disheartening...no taxi driver's ever asked me if i'm married...

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:47

If it is all women/children travelling - you can always specifically book a ladies taxi. They're still not so flash with their driving though, in my experience DD tried to book a ladies' taxi a few weeks back but they said they don't have them anymore? In the end parents shared lifts. I was just at the airport and the ladies taxis were there waiting for passengers.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:47

If it is all women/children travelling - you can always specifically book a ladies taxi. They're still not so flash with their driving though, in my experience DD tried to book a ladies' taxi a few weeks back but they said they don't have them anymore? In the end parents shared lifts.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:37

If it is all women/children travelling - you can always specifically book a ladies taxi. They're still not so flash with their driving though, in my experience

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:34

I've been in situations where I have threatened to call the police/RTA and they have mockingly dialed the number for me!

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:32

I agree, the OP should have said something as there were 2 other women in the car. I think it's very easy to comment and judge when we hear such a story, however, it is not so easy to tell the taxi driver to shut up when you are in his car. I was once in a taxi going somewhere at the back of the industrial area, and the taxi driver would keep on turning back and looking up and down at me salivating. It was gross but I was too scared to do anything as we were in the middle of nowhere, and I just wanted to reach my destination and go!. Oh, and there was no sticker on the window. You think I asked him for a receipt? I just wanted to get out of the car and never see him again! Since the incident I promised myself I won't be scared next time and would call RTA asap but hopefully it never happens again. In this case I would take lots of photos with my phone or camera if was handy as he sped away and make it very clear that you would report him. This could act as a deterrent for him to think twice about doing it to other women at least, even if you cant capture a good picture of the number. Their taxi numbers are written in back down the side of the cars. I had to learn to really talk up and not be afraid to shout 'No!' because I would have had a fairly reserved upbringing where one didnt speak up or make a fuss. Its a hard one if its late at night or in an isolated area for sure.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:28

I have been in taxis and they driver has been overly freindly and i have jokingly said "lol; no need for chatting lets just concentrate on driving" - he has then driven like a bat out of h3ll!!! I hate taxis; i hate getting then and would rather walk a mile at noon than get one.....

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 15:25

I agree, the OP should have said something as there were 2 other women in the car. I think it's very easy to comment and judge when we hear such a story, however, it is not so easy to tell the taxi driver to shut up when you are in his car. I was once in a taxi going somewhere at the back of the industrial area, and the taxi driver would keep on turning back and looking up and down at me salivating. It was gross but I was too scared to do anything as we were in the middle of nowhere, and I just wanted to reach my destination and go!. Oh, and there was no sticker on the window. You think I asked him for a receipt? I just wanted to get out of the car and never see him again! Since the incident I promised myself I won't be scared next time and would call RTA asap but hopefully it never happens again.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 14:53

What I'm saying is that, even though it feels safe here, we as (strong) women should take responsibility of our safety and demand respect! If a man behaves in an inappropriate manner towards me be it verbally or physically, I know that no white knight is going to ride up and save me. I have to look after myself as we all do. The OP is new here and so fair enough, she didn't know what to do, but seriously I hear of so many women here who get into trouble and it's often because they're scared to stand up for themselves. You have every right to do so, within the law obviously Very well said, I've stated this on here before, why are women so afraid of standing up for themselves? Why do you let yourself be a victim? Why can't you say NO? Why are you more concerned about "hurting" someones feelings more than your own safety? How would you advise your daughters, sisters, etc. Would you encourage them to be "nice" to the taxi driver and carry on a conversation? Would you encourage them to stay in an unsafe situation so as not to insult someone? No way!

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 14:06

Why would you allow that? I get that you were nervous but seriously you should just get out of the cab next time OR call RTA in front of him and complain. There's no way he'd do anything dodgy if you're on the phone to his company reporting him. What he did was totally inappropriate and you should report him. That's what I was thinking - why would you allow this? Immediately you felt he'd crossed the line you should have spoken up - he will think that he can get away with this behaviour. Especially that you weren't traveling alone, there were other ladies in the car. Ditto, now he is going to hit on some poor girl out alone, because you let him think it is ok and that some girls are 'easy'. You don't sit in the front of the taxi, there was room for 3 in the back, and you don't respond when they talk to you. Just say nothing. Why is that so hard? It is teasing. You do not need to say 'dunno' or ask him why he is asking how long you have been married.....any response means he has your attention, and quite frankly he did not are about your answer, he just cared that you answered him, his mind was between his pants and nowhere in between. A little harsh and perhaps slightly over the top remarks IMO I hardly think the OP's reaction is going to suddenly change the taxi driver's intentions in the future....his intentions were clear and you can bet he realised she was new to Dubai and was clearly taking advantage. Totally agree ouat, next thing we'll be hearing the OP encouraged him or was inappropriately dressed. It WASN"T HER FAULT!! I'm not saying it's her fault it happened and in NO WAY did I or would I ever imply that the clothes women wear make them either deserving or otherwise of harrassment. What I'm saying is that, even though it feels safe here, we as (strong) women should take responsibility of our safety and demand respect! If a man behaves in an inappropriate manner towards me be it verbally or physically, I know that no white knight is going to ride up and save me. I have to look after myself as we all do. The OP is new here and so fair enough, she didn't know what to do, but seriously I hear of so many women here who get into trouble and it's often because they're scared to stand up for themselves. You have every right to do so, within the law obviously

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 14:02

It comes down to the fact that he asked you "why are you so scared". He could clearly see he was making you uncomfortable and persisted anyway. This was not a result of you sitting in the front or him not knowing better or getting the "wrong message". The message he got was that you are scared.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 13:47

Why would you allow that? I get that you were nervous but seriously you should just get out of the cab next time OR call RTA in front of him and complain. There's no way he'd do anything dodgy if you're on the phone to his company reporting him. What he did was totally inappropriate and you should report him. That's what I was thinking - why would you allow this? Immediately you felt he'd crossed the line you should have spoken up - he will think that he can get away with this behaviour. Especially that you weren't traveling alone, there were other ladies in the car. Ditto, now he is going to hit on some poor girl out alone, because you let him think it is ok and that some girls are 'easy'. You don't sit in the front of the taxi, there was room for 3 in the back, and you don't respond when they talk to you. Just say nothing. Why is that so hard? It is teasing. You do not need to say 'dunno' or ask him why he is asking how long you have been married.....any response means he has your attention, and quite frankly he did not are about your answer, he just cared that you answered him, his mind was between his pants and nowhere in between. A little harsh and perhaps slightly over the top remarks IMO I hardly think the OP's reaction is going to suddenly change the taxi driver's intentions in the future....his intentions were clear and you can bet he realised she was new to Dubai and was clearly taking advantage. Totally agree ouat, next thing we'll be hearing the OP encouraged him or was inappropriately dressed. It WASN"T HER FAULT!!

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 13:38

Why would you allow that? I get that you were nervous but seriously you should just get out of the cab next time OR call RTA in front of him and complain. There's no way he'd do anything dodgy if you're on the phone to his company reporting him. What he did was totally inappropriate and you should report him. That's what I was thinking - why would you allow this? Immediately you felt he'd crossed the line you should have spoken up - he will think that he can get away with this behaviour. Especially that you weren't traveling alone, there were other ladies in the car. Ditto, now he is going to hit on some poor girl out alone, because you let him think it is ok and that some girls are 'easy'. You don't sit in the front of the taxi, there was room for 3 in the back, and you don't respond when they talk to you. Just say nothing. Why is that so hard? It is teasing. You do not need to say 'dunno' or ask him why he is asking how long you have been married.....any response means he has your attention, and quite frankly he did not are about your answer, he just cared that you answered him, his mind was between his pants and nowhere in between. A little harsh and perhaps slightly over the top remarks IMO I hardly think the OP's reaction is going to suddenly change the taxi driver's intentions in the future....his intentions were clear and you can bet he realised she was new to Dubai and was clearly taking advantage.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 13:29

Girls I've only been in the country for 4 weeks so I don't even know what number to call or who the RTA is until you told me :( I know now what to do in the future. Thanks for your advise. Fair enough, don't feel bad you were obviously put in a horrible position. FYI normally cabs have a sticker on the window (usually the rear passenger windows) with the vehicle's RTA reg and the RTA number (042080808), so you can call immediately and they will know which car and which driver you're reporting Thanks - I appreciate that ! Just be aware that some of the drivers pull the part of the sticker with their number on it off (it is in the upper corner). Well over 50% of the taxis I get in have the part with the taxi number missing. If it is missing always ask for a receit as it contains the drivers ID number as well as the taxi number, time and location.

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Latest post on 31 May 2012 - 13:27

Girls I've only been in the country for 4 weeks so I don't even know what number to call or who the RTA is until you told me :( I know now what to do in the future. Thanks for your advise. erm sorry to say so, but same rules any country. I disagree with you. Until coming here I nearly always sat in the front seats and made friendly conversation with cab drivers. Its not far out for a person to not know that this isn't done here.

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