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Dog killed at Pet show...

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 07:57

http://www.7days.ae/article/news/national/dog-killed-dubai-pet-show-32762

Incredible that the owners of the Staffy just walked away and no one did anything....
(If the article is accurate...)

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 20:48
Can anyone please let me know what time and what area at the show this happened? We were there pretty much the whole day and I didn't hear at all about this happening, but I did hear a very awkward announcement over the PA at one stage about owners looking after their dogs. I also felt sorry for all the dogs getting poked and prodded by so many kids. Our 4 year old was keen to do it too. We made her ask the owner 1) does your dog bite and then if the answer was no, 2) can I pat him please? Most people were good about it. One guy did say no because his dog bites. Fair enough. That dog didn't have a muzzle on either though.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:45
Bracey...this was on my mind so much last night that I couldn't sleep, and when I did I had awful nightmares about people attacking my dogs!! My position on euthanising the dog has changed. I honestly feel for the owners. I think they had a dreadful lapse of judgement in not properly restraining their dog. It should have been muzzled and handled by someone both paying attention to what was going on around it and strong enough to control it. I know they must feel worse than I can imagine right now. But the dog must be PTS. It saddens my beginner animal activist heart to say that, but for a big strong dog to kill a much smaller, weaker opponent is just NOT normal healthy behaviour. Worse, this is a pet dog that lives with and is used to small children and small animals. It makes his snap and killing of another dog even more frightening. Tragedy all round. Greenish - i have given my opinion on this below i cant agree but think the dog should be fully assessed before it is put to sleep. I know what you mean as it has been on my mind since i saw the limp dog.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:41
...all i can see on this thread is people trying to blame the organisers, the sponsers, the vets checking the dogs on the door, the owners. Lets step back and look at the lessons which need to be learnt going forward for this incident never to happen again....blame will not make anyone feel any better edited by Bracey777 on 06/02/2012 You're right about that. A lot of the blame discussion here started though because people were quick to blame the dog. Sure the dog did the deed, but the dog is the one part of this whole sorry tale who it not at 'fault'. All I hope is that the event is allowed to continue and that it's very different in the future, doing its best to ensure safety (and fun!) for all. me too Greenish..
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:41
Yeah I get what you're trying to say, Bracey777. Its just a sad, sad thing that happened that could have very easily been avoided. I just get so sick of hearing people saying "its a family dog, wouldn't hurt anyone or anything" so they lay their full trust in these dogs, until something bad happens then they want to be labelled the victims too. End of the day, they were irresponsible dog owners.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:40
...all i can see on this thread is people trying to blame the organisers, the sponsers, the vets checking the dogs on the door, the owners. Lets step back and look at the lessons which need to be learnt going forward for this incident never to happen again....blame will not make anyone feel any better edited by Bracey777 on 06/02/2012 You're right about that. A lot of the blame discussion here started though because people were quick to blame the dog. Sure the dog did the deed, but the dog is the one part of this whole sorry tale who it not at 'fault'. All I hope is that the event is allowed to continue and that it's very different in the future, doing its best to ensure safety (and fun!) for all.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:37
Bracey...this was on my mind so much last night that I couldn't sleep, and when I did I had awful nightmares about people attacking my dogs!! My position on euthanising the dog has changed. I honestly feel for the owners. I think they had a dreadful lapse of judgement in not properly restraining their dog. It should have been muzzled and handled by someone both paying attention to what was going on around it and strong enough to control it. I know they must feel worse than I can imagine right now. But the dog must be PTS. It saddens my beginner animal activist heart to say that, but for a big strong dog to kill a much smaller, weaker opponent is just NOT normal healthy behaviour. Worse, this is a pet dog that lives with and is used to small children and small animals. It makes his snap and killing of another dog even more frightening. Tragedy all round.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:35
Bracey777, if they feel awful about it then why have witnesses to this horrid attack all said the owners just walked off? Just trying to get my head around that. They feel awful, I'm sorry but I do not have much sympathy for them. They should have had their dog muzzled. My mind won't be changed on this. You have a dog like that then it should be muzzled in public, especially in the environment such as a dog show where there are many dogs and kids about. I agree the dog should have been muzzled butwhat i am trying to say is an awful thing happened thats all. No amount of money will change that.....all i can see on this thread is people trying to blame the organisers, the sponsers, the vets checking the dogs on the door, the owners. Lets step back and look at the lessons which need to be learnt going forward for this incident never to happen again....blame will not make anyone feel any better <em>edited by Bracey777 on 06/02/2012</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:35
Careful shellly. ;) If you read the FB page discussing this, many are labelling the poodle as the "attacking dog" and that the staffy as just defending itself! (but I agree with you 100%) Even if the poodle had gotten into the staffy's personal space and was annoying it, had the staffy been muzzled this would not have been an issue. Irresponsible owners.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:31
Bracey777, if they feel awful about it then why have witnesses to this horrid attack all said the owners just walked off? Just trying to get my head around that. They feel awful, I'm sorry but I do not have much sympathy for them. They should have had their dog muzzled. My mind won't be changed on this. You have a dog like that then it should be muzzled in public, especially in the environment such as a dog show where there are many dogs and kids about.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:28
IMO the fault lies with 1st and foremost the attacking dog's owners. They were so irresponsible with not having their dog muzzled. And the event organisers cannot be left without any blame either. They should have had a team of staff watching and making sure dogs that had to be muzzled were muzzled. I've read reports the owners may be fined approx DHS5000... IMO this amount is far too low. Their dog KILLED another dog. They are responsible, so they must pay. Shellly - what in your mind is a fair fine/punishment? They already have had their dog taken off them which is now being held at the muncipality pound and will be possibily be put to sleep...I imagine they feel awful about the whole thing..... <em>edited by Bracey777 on 06/02/2012</em>
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:27
Careful shellly. ;) If you read the FB page discussing this, many are labelling the poodle as the "attacking dog" and that the staffy as just defending itself! (but I agree with you 100%)
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:23
IMO the fault lies with 1st and foremost the attacking dog's owners. They were so irresponsible with not having their dog muzzled. And the event organisers cannot be left without any blame either. They should have had a team of staff watching and making sure dogs that had to be muzzled were muzzled. I've read reports the owners may be fined approx DHS5000... IMO this amount is far too low. Their dog KILLED another dog. They are responsible, so they must pay.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:20
What I fear for animals lovers in the UAE is that the event risks being banned because, again, the organisers did not enforce local law. Having the event's future at risk is a great shame. Then again, the police are usually there in force with their dogs and I never saw them ask anyone to muzzle a 'banned' breed. The police are not there for this reason.......no point in blaming them. This is the organizers fault, and this is not the 1st time a dog has attacked another dog/person at the show. I don't blame them...I blame the dog's owners and the event organisers. Is it not poor form though that the law is not enforced by the paid law enforcement?? At the very least the police could have insisted that the organisers do something about the unmuzzled 'banned' breeds, the poorly behaved/controlled dogs and the unrestrained ones outside of the 'dog park'?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:15
What I fear for animals lovers in the UAE is that the event risks being banned because, again, the organisers did not enforce local law. Having the event's future at risk is a great shame. Then again, the police are usually there in force with their dogs and I never saw them ask anyone to muzzle a 'banned' breed. The police are not there for this reason.......no point in blaming them. This is the organizers fault, and this is not the 1st time a dog has attacked another dog/person at the show.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:12
Even if the dog WAS muzzled at time of entering, there is no guarantee that the owners would keep the muzzle on it for the duration of the event. Sadly, this was bound to happen here. I am surprised it took 24 years of Dog shows before it did quite frankly. Dog fighting exists here as well as the mentality of BIG FIERCE DOG = STATUS. Very sad for everyone involved. I pray that a BIG lesson has been learned by many. The organisers, the authorities, dog owners, breeders...etc.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:10
What I fear for animals lovers in the UAE is that the event risks being banned because, again, the organisers did not enforce local law. Having the event's future at risk is a great shame. Then again, the police are usually there in force with their dogs and I never saw them ask anyone to muzzle a 'banned' breed.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 16:07
In other countries the owners would be heavily fined and the dog either destroyed or sentenced to a muzzle in all public places . The breed is already "sentenced to a muzzle in all public places" so there is the main problem. Had the organisers been applying the law, this would not have happened. Er..... and the owners?? Their pet shouldn't they take the majority of the responsibility for keeping the dog muzzled? As I have already said numerous times in this thread, the owners are completely to blame for the actual incident. They should be prosecuted (although they won't be because the life of the other dog is 'worthless' in the UAE) and their future ownership of dogs questioned. (Sorry owners...I do feel for you, but this was a massive lapse of judgement on your part) What I meant above was that, had the organisers ensured the enforcement of the local LAW, these irresponsible owners could not have made the decision to leave their dog unmuzzled. (and for what it's worth again, I don't agree with the local muzzling laws)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 15:51
So what is your suggestion? The owners get put down and the dog isn't? maybe as well as the dog!! Comment was mainly in response to Green-ish comment about the organisers.... just asking shouldn't the pet owners be more responsible for keeping their dog's muzzled?
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 15:46
So what is your suggestion? The owners get put down and the dog isn't?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 15:43
In other countries the owners would be heavily fined and the dog either destroyed or sentenced to a muzzle in all public places . The breed is already "sentenced to a muzzle in all public places" so there is the main problem. Had the organisers been applying the law, this would not have happened. Er..... and the owners?? Their pet shouldn't they take the majority of the responsibility for keeping the dog muzzled?
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 15:19
In other countries the owners would be heavily fined and the dog either destroyed or sentenced to a muzzle in all public places . The breed is already "sentenced to a muzzle in all public places" so there is the main problem. Had the organisers been applying the law, this would not have happened.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 15:18
In other countries the owners would be heavily fined and the dog either destroyed or sentenced to a muzzle in all public places .
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 13:24
I'm not sure if it's an urban myth but certainly if a dog has attacked once then there will always be a question and so in my opinion, should be put down.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 13:13
Of course the dog has to be put down as [b'>now its had the taste of blood it will kill again [/b'>--- thats why farmers in UK have the right to shoot dogs that worry sheep as once they have done this they will come and do the same again ---- is that really true ?? i always thought it's an urban myth...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 11:20
Of course the dog has to be put down as now its had the taste of blood it will kill again --- thats why farmers in UK have the right to shoot dogs that worry sheep as once they have done this they will come and do the same again ----
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 10:54
You are welcome to have it in your family...I would not. Exactly - i wonder how many of those saying that this dog shouldn't be destroyed would happily leave one of their children (esp under 4 year old) in a room alone with it..... I wouldn't leave my nephew alone with this dog..... Am i wrong in thinking the staff is from a family with children???? To be honest i wouldnt leave any dog in a room with a four year old child unsupervised, surely that is just being irresponsible...Like someone has previously said you never know when a dog may snap....but that's just my opinion <em>edited by Bracey777 on 06/02/2012</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 10:51
You are welcome to have it in your family...I would not. Exactly - i wonder how many of those saying that this dog shouldn't be destroyed would happily leave one of their children (esp under 4 year old) in a room alone with it..... I wouldn't leave my nephew alone with this dog.....
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 10:49
I would like to see the organisers punished. The volunteers working on the gate were given no briefing at all about dogs wearing muzzles. The organisers are 99% sure lying their comments today in the newspaper saying that the killer dog was muzzled when it entered. How on earth would they know??
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 10:49
Each to their own, of course. But how many times do we hear the whole "they were a family dog, so caring, never bite, around children...." Yeah... until they DO bite! I feel so sorry for both dogs in this case. BUT as someone said previously, now this dog has had a taste of blood...... I cannot even begin to think who the next victim may be. SO sad, that dog should have been muzzled. Simple as that.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 February 2012 - 10:44
And they're now suing the owners and the organisers. I feel sad for the poodle, it was a horrible incident. But I don't think the Staffi should be punished for other people negligence. that dog should be put down. No he should not be. The organisers and owners should be. Probably that too, but once an animal has shown that level of aggression it really does need to be destroyed for the safety of all other animals as well as for any children around it. I dont agree i am sorry...one dog has died already.... of course the dog should be destroyed. Don't be so niaive I am not being NAIVE i just think in my personal opinion the dog should be assessed before being put to sleep. It is after all described as a family dog...this is just my opinion though...your welcome to yours as well <em>edited by Bracey777 on 06/02/2012</em>
 
 

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