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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:50
i think based on this year they wont be allowing it next year... although we did let our dog off the lead, i do agree with you. Most of the dogs I've owned, I would have let off too. ;) I'd want a length of poly pipe in hand though in case of aggressive dogs (and want to apply the pipe to the owners, not the dogs. :D )
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:39
i think based on this year they wont be allowing it next year... although we did let our dog off the lead, i do agree with you.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:35
TO be clear, I'm all for off leash parks for dogs and think it's a great shame there aren't any over there already. But at the dog show? Where there are LOTS of dogs and clearly too many irresponsible owners? A dog park that's always there and becomes 'home' to the regulars is one thing. An off-leash area at a once a year event where people and dogs get over excited and careless? Bad idea I think. <em>edited by Green-ish on 05/02/2012</em>
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:32
yep from 1pm-6pm they opened up the small pitch, it was the same last year... it was called 'dog park' but most dogs were off their leash... last year no problems, this year a few issues but nothing major... owners just needed to keep a better eye on the dogs
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:28
cakes, if you don't know how he'll react, it's absolutely ok to say "No, sorry." They'll find another dog to pat. ;) They had an off leash dog park???? FFS. I'm speechless!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:24
thats the thing greenish, he was fine but what about if he had nipped then? it would have been my fault... some of them asked but most of them just went to grab his face, ears etc... must have been the same guys, it did make them look meaner though :) they opened the dog park at 1pm when you could let dogs of leads, we left ours off but myself or DH was with him at all times, there were lots of dogs that were just let off to run around with the owners no where to be seen.. my DH had to break up a fight between a lab and a GSD as it would have been a ****** mess otherwise...
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:18
i have never seen pits here either but these 'gangs' all had black t-shirts on with writing on the back (couldnt see what) and they all had pits with studded collars on... granted they looked in control of them but it did look pretty scary. Sounds like the same guys we saw the year we went. Their animals were superb and beautifully behaved. The young men were more than happy to talk to families and let children pat the dogs. I could not fault their handling of the gorgeous dogs. At the same time, I agree they did look menacing and I thought the whole black-shirt-muscles-and-studded-collar cliché was pretty unnecessary and didn't do anything to endear the breed to wary people.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:15
Yes, you all make good points. I just dont think its sounds like the best idea for kids or dogs after reading this.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:14
... Sorry let me rephrase that - I found him extremely scary. I once had a 80kg rottie and this german sheppard who was half his size was far more terrifying. He barked at people, dogs regardless of size and his owner couldn't contain him. I saw him leave shortly after the incident. ... Sorry xmasbaby...I wrote in a hurry and didn't mean to be dismissive of how you felt. Of course a large dog behaving like that is frightening to many people. It is appalling behaviour. I only meant that I would find it sad. I'd probably have a quiet (no doubt unwelcome) word to the owners too. Gosh...I'm glad it was a great day out for many. I loved the only pet show we managed to get to. I hope the organisers have a good long look at all of these things that went wrong though and make massive change for next year. I'm still gobsmacked that ANY dogs were off leash!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:14
Some pitbulls (and pitbull lookalikes) are being bred here.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:12
agree with you Freckly, they need to tighten the reins for next year.. my desert dog is not used to being around children so i really dont know how he would react but he was on a short leash at all times and if children came over just stroke him without asking him i made sure they didnt until he was sat down... last thing i wanted was for him to snap.. luckily he was ok but its just about educating people! yep and also saw a whole heap of kids that were visibly afraid of dogs and running back and fro...Parents if you're child is afraid of a dog, do not bring them to a dog show!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:11
agree with you Freckly, they need to tighten the reins for next year.. my desert dog is not used to being around children so i really dont know how he would react but he was on a short leash at all times and if children came over just stroke him without asking him i made sure they didnt until he was sat down... last thing i wanted was for him to snap.. luckily he was ok but its just about educating people! There's another problem that needs to be addressed. Why do kids think it's ok to approach dogs they don't know and touch them without checking with the owners first? Their parents should be keeping them close and teaching them the basics of safety around dogs.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:08
must have been... i dont like to speculate as they didnt seem out of control, however if they are banned in the UAE then they shouldnt have been allowed it..
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:08
My daughter and I were standing in front of the vets when a volunteer came running by us with the injured dog, blood gushing and clearly about to die. It was horrific and quite traumatic. We have a big dog but we have spent a lot of time with training and socialisation so that our dog is not aggressive. Having said that, we had a rott in the past and he was probably the most gentle dog I've ever met - but again we didn't encourage aggressive behaviour. These are dogs and people have to beware so I was equally annoyed that some dogs who clearly needed a muzzle didn't have one. [b'>There was a german sheppard that was aggressive and barking at everyone - he was horrifying![/b'> It was truly a sad sight to see and I feel so sad for the family whose now lost their dog. I wouldn't find him horrifying. I'd find it incredibly sad to watch. A dog like that is another with irresponsible owners. He's poorly socialised and under incredible stress being there. Sad. :( Sorry let me rephrase that - I found him extremely scary. I once had a 80kg rottie and this german sheppard who was half his size was far more terrifying. He barked at people, dogs regardless of size and his owner couldn't contain him. I saw him leave shortly after the incident. Another thing I want to mention as well was the number of "little" dogs who bark and lunge at bigger dogs. Our current dog is big and the number of little pooches that were barking and trying to lunge at him while we walked by was unbelievable. In one case, we had to move our 2 year old daughter swiftly out of the way as the dog came bolting towards our dog nearly knocking her over in the process. The dog was on a leash and the owner did pull him/her back eventually but there were several off leash. Quite frankly, these little dogs should also be taught not to be so aggressive - its not cute just because they are small. Fortunately, our dog didn't bat an eye. <em>edited by xmasbaby on 05/02/2012</em>
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:06
i have never seen pits here either but these 'gangs' all had black t-shirts on with writing on the back (couldnt see what) and they all had pits with studded collars on... granted they looked in control of them but it did look pretty scary. they have to be from ths US....? the dog breed is banned in the UK and Europe right??? horrible, another mistreatment of the dogs most likely
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:04
i have never seen pits here either but these 'gangs' all had black t-shirts on with writing on the back (couldnt see what) and they all had pits with studded collars on... granted they looked in control of them but it did look pretty scary.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:02
agree with you Freckly, they need to tighten the reins for next year.. my desert dog is not used to being around children so i really dont know how he would react but he was on a short leash at all times and if children came over just stroke him without asking him i made sure they didnt until he was sat down... last thing i wanted was for him to snap.. luckily he was ok but its just about educating people!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 13:02
sorry for being so naive, but do alot of people have pits here, i havent seen one? gangs of boys?? who is buying them? id love to know how they get here....?
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:56
I think it also the owners fault!! They should have known that their dog isnt the best behaved and maybe wasnt used to such an environment. I saw that german shephard puppy who was so distrubed by the whole environment- we were in the queue entering next to them. The owner was like ' oh he is excited' and i thought, nope he is over excited and not sure what the heck is happening!! That poor poor child who saw her doggie die infront of her. i can only imagine how awful it is for her!! But shame on the Pet Show for not stopping these owners before they left- I hope they are prosecuted as they seem to not know how to raise a socialised dog. For so many years the show has been going on, and no problems as ppl are aware that you need to be careful. I even saw a desert dog mix who was muzzled and the owner said she snaps when over excited. Fair enough, you did the right thing and muzzled her just in case!! but like you said, what if the dog had bitten the kid instead of the dog as there were far more families and kids around this year than previous!! God love that child though!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:54
thanks greenish, it didnt ruin the day for us- we had a lovely day out and our boy enjoyed it so much... i just hope it doesnt ruin it for us and everybody next year... my cousin saw the whole thing of the dog being killed :( there was 'gangs' of young guys all with pitbull dogs walking around the show- it was a little scary to be honest.. am not sure how they got in..
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:52
SkyKitty...with apologies, I'm afraid I'll argue ownership fault until I'm blue in the face. ;) My beloved Grandmother was the softest, kindest little old lady on the planet. She was so soft that her corgi/cocker cross was the least disciplined, most aggressive little ***** I have ever met. As kids, he was tied to the hills hoist when we visited and we were not alowed in the garden with him in case he chewed through the rope! When he took a chunk out of someone's thigh (while being walked on a lead), he was soon euthanised. A cocker spaniel may be a far less efficient killing machine (and, granted, easier to stop), but a responsibly raised put bull is safer than a small dog raised by useless owners any day. BRAVO.....comming from a family who was terrified by cockers :) but we have had 3 rotties :) but just be responsible people. Dont bring the dog or have control of it- THATS all, weather it be a maltese or a Mastiff.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:50
it was actually a really really lovely day, its a shame people ruin it for others... there was a lady there with 2 great danes that she just couldnt control, we came into the show at the same time as her and one of them went for my desert dog... she wasnt even watching the dog and was in a world of her own, DH literally had to pick up my dog (25kg) to stop it going horrible... we did tell her what for though... Case in point! Great Danes are renowned for their laid back, couch potato temperaments. Irresponsible ownership strikes again. I'm so sorry you and your poor dog went through that cakes. :( <em>edited by Green-ish on 05/02/2012</em>
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:48
it was actually a really really lovely day, its a shame people ruin it for others... there was a lady there with 2 great danes that she just couldnt control, we came into the show at the same time as her and one of them went for my desert dog... she wasnt even watching the dog and was in a world of her own, DH literally had to pick up my dog (25kg) to stop it going horrible... we did tell her what for though...
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:47
SkyKitty...with apologies, I'm afraid I'll argue ownership fault until I'm blue in the face. ;) My beloved Grandmother was the softest, kindest little old lady on the planet. She was so soft that her corgi/cocker cross was the least disciplined, most aggressive little ***** I have ever met. As kids, he was tied to the hills hoist when we visited and we were not alowed in the garden with him in case he chewed through the rope! When he took a chunk out of someone's thigh (while being walked on a lead), he was soon euthanised. A cocker spaniel may be a far less efficient killing machine (and, granted, easier to stop), but a responsibly raised put bull is safer than a small dog raised by useless owners any day.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:46
YES sadly dog fighting is pretty rife here and has been for many years. The pet show was in it's 23rd year this year and it's so sad that this has happened. The organisers really need to also be held responsible for not making sure that certain dogs were muzzled and ALL dogs kept on leashes all the time. You can sit there and say it's 100% down to ownership all you like, but some breeds have traits that can't be just bred out of them, that's why they act like they do. TBH I've never found Rotties aggressive, I happen to think they're the most placid dogs about. Sadly one of the things about Staffy's, putbulls etc is the fact that they have lockable jaws - once they latch on, they do not let go! Which is why you hear stories of people beating them over the head with baseball bats and whatnot in an attempt to get them to release. Some breeds are just more placid than others, some I would never trust and have no interest in being around them. <em>edited by Chocs01 on 05/02/2012</em>
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:40
I can't imagine how traumatic that must have been for her :(
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:40
True owners have a lot to do with it but comparing a cocker spaniel that bites to a pitbull that bites is like apples and oranges.. a cocker spaniel is unlikely to kill someone, a pit bull however.... I remember a case in Oz a number of years ago now where an old lady was attacked in her yard by 3 aggressive (forget the exact breed but staffy or pit bull) and literally mauled to death.... had it been other types I doubt she'd have been killed. I grew up with a docile Rotti living in our street, she wouldn't hurt a fly but we were still always told to be careful around her because you just never know as her breed is genetically predisposed toward wanting to hunt/bite etc... she did bite me once in the end, my fault for teasing her a bit but before then she had never showed aggressive tendencies at all.... another similar dog a few streets over later was put down for savaging a child.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:38
I'm so sad for that poor little girl who was holding the poodle. I hope she's surrounded by lots of love and support. :(
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:35
... Do not even tell me Green that there are dog fights here??? how do they even get the dogs here? who knows how to train them....? Glad my Rottie is at home...... Sadly, yes. It's widely believed that many dogs that go missing from gardens on on the streets end up as bait dogs for the fighting world. When I first started at K9 there was a gorgeous dog who'd been found in the desert - broken leg, covered in bite wounds and ears freshly and crudely cut off. No doubt a fighting or baiting failure and left to die. I do love dogs...lol...I'm a beginner animal activist! ;) I will have a look at some of his work, thanks. I have been known to email people advertising their dogs "free to good home" on dubizzle. If the ad reads to me like they are either desperate or not knowledgeable on re-homing, I fear they are ripe for picking by the dog fighters. Obviously these low-lifes want cheap dogs so freebies are perfect for baiting. :( And people wonder why those of us on the pets forum are SO repetitive on careful re-homing of animals. No no....not here....have a huge dog fighting Pit bull issues in St Louis, where I am from.....they can be real great dogs if you allow them to be.... Randy Grim- owner of a Stray rescue in st louis, gets alot of attention for his pit bull work....Stray Rescue St Louis....seems like youre a doggie lover, check it out if you want....he toured the USA with a dog that made it- still standing- through a gassing--
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:34
Yes, yes, yes here! Distasteful though it may seem, it DOES happen here. Please don't kid yourself that it doesn't. Too often I've seen the "survivors" (once is too often, actually) and it often doesn't end well.
 
 

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