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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:29
... Do not even tell me Green that there are dog fights here??? how do they even get the dogs here? who knows how to train them....? Glad my Rottie is at home...... Sadly, yes. It's widely believed that many dogs that go missing from gardens on on the streets end up as bait dogs for the fighting world. When I first started at K9 there was a gorgeous dog who'd been found in the desert - broken leg, covered in bite wounds and ears freshly and crudely cut off. No doubt a fighting or baiting failure and left to die. No no....not here....have a huge dog fighting Pit bull issues in St Louis, where I am from.....they can be real great dogs if you allow them to be.... Randy Grim- owner of a Stray rescue in st louis, gets alot of attention for his pit bull work....Stray Rescue St Louis....seems like youre a doggie lover, check it out if you want....he toured the USA with a dog that made it- still standing- through a gassing--
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:24
... Do not even tell me Green that there are dog fights here??? how do they even get the dogs here? who knows how to train them....? Glad my Rottie is at home...... Sadly, yes. It's widely believed that many dogs that go missing from gardens on on the streets end up as bait dogs for the fighting world. When I first started at K9 there was a gorgeous dog who'd been found in the desert - broken leg, covered in bite wounds and ears freshly and crudely cut off. No doubt a fighting or baiting failure and left to die.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:23
My daughter and I were standing in front of the vets when a volunteer came running by us with the injured dog, blood gushing and clearly about to die. It was horrific and quite traumatic. We have a big dog but we have spent a lot of time with training and socialisation so that our dog is not aggressive. Having said that, we had a rott in the past and he was probably the most gentle dog I've ever met - but again we didn't encourage aggressive behaviour. These are dogs and people have to beware so I was equally annoyed that some dogs who clearly needed a muzzle didn't have one. [b'>There was a german sheppard that was aggressive and barking at everyone - he was horrifying![/b'> It was truly a sad sight to see and I feel so sad for the family whose now lost their dog. I wouldn't find him horrifying. I'd find it incredibly sad to watch. A dog like that is another with irresponsible owners. He's poorly socialised and under incredible stress being there. Sad. :( Yes, why not tell the owners, get out, youre dog is freaking out, and its going to cause a problem. ? I mean why even bring the dog? I was surprised Dubai had a pet show, happy they are doing something pet positive, but this just ruins it
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:22
Yes, there are dog fights here, and quite a lot of dogs involved. I've seen the aftermath of some of these dogfights (that are illegal btw). ETA Usually Pitbulls, or dogs that look like pitbulls. The owners usually cut the ears off their fighting dogs. You'll see dogs that aren't pitbulls with their ears cut off. I assume they were thought to be pitbulls, had their ears cut off then dumped when their owners realised that they wouldn't be able to use their dog to fight. Not an uncommon sight in shelters here. <em>edited by Sanddy_Dogg on 05/02/2012</em>
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:21
... I think breed banning does nothing but make life harder for responsible pet owners. ... I agree 100%!!! Banning breeds makes it harder for responsible dog owners, especially when 'banning' in the UAE does not actually mean the dogs are banned. It means that the dogs (already owned) may be brought into the country and then must wear cruel muzzles which are dangerous in the climate and actually make a dog look a lot more menacing than it may be. Muzzles on genuinely dangerous dogs protect people and other animals. Muzzles on perfectly harmless dogs cause an increase in mistrust and fear in a country when it's already difficult to have dogs (culturally speaking). What the authorities need to be doing is taking animal welfare seriously, stamping out dog fighting and prosecuting irresponsible dog owners. The 'bans' are ridiculous. Do not even tell me Green that there are dog fights here??? how do they even get the dogs here? who knows how to train them....? Glad my Rottie is at home......
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:19
My daughter and I were standing in front of the vets when a volunteer came running by us with the injured dog, blood gushing and clearly about to die. It was horrific and quite traumatic. We have a big dog but we have spent a lot of time with training and socialisation so that our dog is not aggressive. Having said that, we had a rott in the past and he was probably the most gentle dog I've ever met - but again we didn't encourage aggressive behaviour. These are dogs and people have to beware so I was equally annoyed that some dogs who clearly needed a muzzle didn't have one. [b'>There was a german sheppard that was aggressive and barking at everyone - he was horrifying![/b'> It was truly a sad sight to see and I feel so sad for the family whose now lost their dog. I wouldn't find him horrifying. I'd find it incredibly sad to watch. A dog like that is another with irresponsible owners. He's poorly socialised and under incredible stress being there. Sad. :(
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:19
My daughter and I were standing in front of the vets when a volunteer came running by us with the injured dog, blood gushing and clearly about to die. It was horrific and quite traumatic. We have a big dog but we have spent a lot of time with training and socialisation so that our dog is not aggressive. Having said that, we had a rott in the past and he was probably the most gentle dog I've ever met - but again we didn't encourage aggressive behaviour. These are dogs and people have to beware so I was equally annoyed that some dogs who clearly needed a muzzle didn't have one. There was a german sheppard that was aggressive and barking at everyone - he was horrifying! It was truly a sad sight to see and I feel so sad for the family whose now lost their dog. Yes, its horrible, I guess I just dont get why the owner or the pit bull was made to address the issue? I do feel that a muzzle is ok in public places....especially crowded ones....I am too so sorry for the other dog and family. I just wanted to make a point that its not always a dog fault....we do raise them....... edited by saintlouismama on 05/02/2012 I completely agree with you!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:17
... I think breed banning does nothing but make life harder for responsible pet owners. ... I agree 100%!!! Banning breeds makes it harder for responsible dog owners, especially when 'banning' in the UAE does not actually mean the dogs are banned. It means that the dogs (already owned) may be brought into the country and then must wear cruel muzzles which are dangerous in the climate and actually make a dog look a lot more menacing than it may be. Muzzles on genuinely dangerous dogs protect people and other animals. Muzzles on perfectly harmless dogs cause an increase in mistrust and fear in a country when it's already difficult to have dogs (culturally speaking). What the authorities need to be doing is taking animal welfare seriously, stamping out dog fighting and prosecuting irresponsible dog owners. The 'bans' are ridiculous.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:16
My daughter and I were standing in front of the vets when a volunteer came running by us with the injured dog, blood gushing and clearly about to die. It was horrific and quite traumatic. We have a big dog but we have spent a lot of time with training and socialisation so that our dog is not aggressive. Having said that, we had a rott in the past and he was probably the most gentle dog I've ever met - but again we didn't encourage aggressive behaviour. These are dogs and people have to beware so I was equally annoyed that some dogs who clearly needed a muzzle didn't have one. There was a german sheppard that was aggressive and barking at everyone - he was horrifying! It was truly a sad sight to see and I feel so sad for the family whose now lost their dog. Yes, its horrible, I guess I just dont get why the owner or the pit bull was made to address the issue? I do feel that a muzzle is ok in public places....especially crowded ones....I am too so sorry for the other dog and family. I just wanted to make a point that its not always a dog fault....we do raise them....... <em>edited by saintlouismama on 05/02/2012</em>
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:13
Lucky it was just a dog. Could have been the girl. Horrible. Would never go to one of these things here in Dubai!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:12
My daughter and I were standing in front of the vets when a volunteer came running by us with the injured dog, blood gushing and clearly about to die. It was horrific and quite traumatic. We have a big dog but we have spent a lot of time with training and socialisation so that our dog is not aggressive. Having said that, we had a rott in the past and he was probably the most gentle dog I've ever met - but again we didn't encourage aggressive behaviour. These are dogs and people have to beware so I was equally annoyed that some dogs who clearly needed a muzzle didn't have one. There was a german sheppard that was aggressive and barking at everyone - he was horrifying! It was truly a sad sight to see and I feel so sad for the family whose now lost their dog.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 12:11
I 100% agree it is not about the dog...very little to do with breed, EVERYTHING to do with the way the dog is raised, the expereinces it has, the attitude of the owners and the sense of responsibility of the owners. While I am aware that some of the breeds mentioned were originally 'designed' for hunting large game or fighting ( :( ), many of the softest, most gentle dogs I have ever known are staffy's (a favoured family dog here) rotti's, GSD's etc. Some of the nastiest, meanest and most likely to bite have been 'cute' little fluffy toy breeds. Good dogs start with good owners. Badly behaved dogs are ninety nine times out of one hunderd, the fault of their owners. This horrible attack is completely the fault of the owner who should be prosecuted and banned from owning dogs. To have ANY dog off-leash in an environment like that is completely unacceptable. I also think the organisers need to take some responsibility. I don't agree with the muzzling laws in the UAE, but they are there and would have prevented this from happening. What the organisers need to realise is that had a child been hurt, whoever is in charge would be in jail now and the pet show would never take place again. What a shame that would be.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:57
Sorry to say it but certain breeds have more aggressive traits and most owners of these breeds want them for their aggressive traits...... which just makes things worse... You very rarely see a little old lady with a pair of pitt-bulls do you?? No, but we just had this Rottiweiler fall into our lap in a way....ended up being the best dog....and met alot of other aggressive breed owners while walking her etc.....I am not saying they CANT be aggressive. The point is often lost is that it is the OWNERS. This fool whos dog killed another dog should not be a PET owner again. No matter what breed we are talking about. I think breed banning does nothing but make life harder for responsible pet owners. I had to do a extra fee for my dogs- even if they had never bit anyone or had any problems....based on a breed. Someone can have a cocker spaniel that bites someone and thats ok. They will never be on the aggressive breed list. I guess I was just surprised to see everybody jumping on the "its the breed" bandwagon,without really looking into the issue. If we are actually starting to address this, instead look into the owner and dogs history,
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:36
Sorry to say it but certain breeds have more aggressive traits and most owners of these breeds want them for their aggressive traits...... which just makes things worse... You very rarely see a little old lady with a pair of pitt-bulls do you??
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:26
That's great your dog/ones you know are awesome... but basn exist for a reason. Usally because historically dogs of those breeds are far more liekly to be aggressive than dogs of other breeds. For example, labradors. Sure any dog can attack if provoked but more often than not when you hear of attacks there's certain breeds involved... take for example lions... ones raised from cubs by humans are less likely to attack someone, but the possibility is still there because of the nature of that animal... Anyway, don't want to get into a big argument about it but as I said, bans exist for a reason. Yes, and they do nothing for responsible dog owners like me. Yes, and dogs act aggressive because of human action and inaction usually, not only genetics. My point was even a cocker spaniel- which my family had for generations, can be overbread and aggressive. The point of a breed ban is null and void if dog OWNERS are not forced to be responsible for a dog. Like this fool, he will go out and get another Staff Terrier and the same thing will happen...who bears the fault, not the owner- the DOG.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:20
That's great your dog/ones you know are awesome... but basn exist for a reason. Usally because historically dogs of those breeds are far more liekly to be aggressive than dogs of other breeds. For example, labradors. Sure any dog can attack if provoked but more often than not when you hear of attacks there's certain breeds involved... take for example lions... ones raised from cubs by humans are less likely to attack someone, but the possibility is still there because of the nature of that animal... Anyway, don't want to get into a big argument about it but as I said, bans exist for a reason.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:13
Sorry to say, but the fault lies with the OWNERS. not the breed of dog....Not all of them are bred to fight. I have had 3 rottweilers that would seriously be friends of kittens- let my kids be very rough....all wonderful pets.....better than the cocker spaniels in the family that bit everybody. Breed banning is rubbish. Why would you bring a bunch of animals, people, and crowds together anyway and NOT expect problems. ???? And I quote... 'that particular breed'.... they have even been banned in places in the US where they come from. I was not talking about all big breeds... Yes, but Rotts, Pitt Bulls, Staff Terriers, Am Bulldogs, German Sheps....all in the category......I am just saying its not the animals its the owners.....I know some AWESOME pitt bulls....and some rescued ones who had horrible times and now are great animals. If I had a aggressive dog, they would not be in a public place-- that applies to any dog.....
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:10
Sorry to say, but the fault lies with the OWNERS. not the breed of dog....Not all of them are bred to fight. I have had 3 rottweilers that would seriously be friends of kittens- let my kids be very rough....all wonderful pets.....better than the cocker spaniels in the family that bit everybody. Breed banning is rubbish. Why would you bring a bunch of animals, people, and crowds together anyway and NOT expect problems. ???? And I quote... 'that particular breed'.... they have even been banned in places in the US where they come from. I was not talking about all big breeds...
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 11:08
Sorry to say, but the fault lies with the OWNERS. not the breed of dog....Not all of them are bred to fight. I have had 3 rottweilers that would seriously be friends of kittens- let my kids be very rough....all wonderful pets.....better than the cocker spaniels in the family that bit everybody. Breed banning is rubbish. Why would you bring a bunch of animals, people, and crowds together anyway and NOT expect problems. ????
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 10:53
my thought exactly- wh ywasn't it wearing a muzzle in the first place? In some places the organisers would also be held responsible for not enforcing the rules like this. Imagine if it had been a child, just dreadful to think about! It does make me wonder though, that certain breeds ar ekept here when so clearly unsuited to the climate. This particular breed is on the banned list... the gate people should of had a list and (photos to help indentify) all the 'dangerous breeds'... these dogs are taught to kill and flight... I also saw several dogs that IMO should not of been let in. I also was there and saw the 'aftermath'... very upsetting indeed.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 10:40
my thought exactly- wh ywasn't it wearing a muzzle in the first place? In some places the organisers would also be held responsible for not enforcing the rules like this. Imagine if it had been a child, just dreadful to think about! It does make me wonder though, that certain breeds ar ekept here when so clearly unsuited to the climate.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 10:36
Hadnt been before to this and we pitched up in the vicinity of this incident just after it occurred. The terrier's owner was by this point with members of staff and a security guy but I don't know what happened after that - by this point the dog was muzzled. We were told by witnesses it was not on the lead too when this happened. This was truly dreadful and the poor family must be so distraught. The warning put out re children petting dogs and keeping dogs on leads/muzzled went out quite a while after this incident too - we were there a minute or so after it happened, then wandered off, talked to a few people, queued for fish and chips, sat down and ate it before it went out - so a good half an hour by our reckoning. And there were several dangerous looking dogs there, with spiky collars to make them look more menacing. They just should not have been allowed in there. Also saw a dog with sores on its back and puppies that were too young to be there. What were the staff on the gates doing?
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 10:29
Well only after the incident, did the organisers put out warnings that the dangerous breeds should be muzzled - er according to the new rules brought in a couple of years ago, these breeds are meant to be leashed and muzzled at all times in public anyway - so why were they let in, in the first place? Also it came to light, that the staffy owners give their dog a toy that looks like a poodle, so the dog literally associated the toy poodle with it's toy. Pure ignorance and irresponsible dog ownership all round on this one. On a side note, I also wasn't happy that the vets on the door were not sterilising the thermometer inbetween using it on different animals, merely wiping it on the same piece of tissue! Not good practice and that's how diseases are spread - seriously, if they were going to do that to my boy I was going to refuse!
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 09:00
Seriously warped... yeah not to forget the owner of the staffy who just WALKED AWAY!!!! I mean really, whoever it was they should be VERY ASHAMED of themselves!! In my country they could actually face charges for not having a (vicious breed) dog under control in a public place. It should be put down, once they savage another animal they get a taste for the blood, what next, a little child?!?! I wonder who took control of the dog if they just went away and left it? I feel sorry for the little girl who was holding the poodle :(
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 09:00
http://www.7days.ae/article/news/national/dog-killed-dubai-pet-show-32762 Incredible that the owners of the Staffy just walked away and no one did anything.... (If the article is accurate...) It was such a fun day for most people....what a shame for the owners of the poodle :( Wonder what happened to the terrier.
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Latest post on 05 February 2012 - 08:03
Dubai has really gone to the dogs.
 
 

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