For UK citizens:- please read what they are doing to our young doctors & sign the petition

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Latest post on 01 October 2015 - 20:20

Hi Crocus, It is a terrible state of affairs, I have a personal interest as my niece is in her 4th year of training and this is just such a blow to all of them. It seems to me that we have such a shortage of doctors in UK, there are not enough medical schools, the competition to get in is now ridiculous - when they get in they have to pay all their uni fees, unlike physiotherapy which is paid for by the NHS?! And now another kick.....not entirely sure what the government is trying to do to them here.....very sad for people who are choosing to work so hard for a vocation....

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 27 September 2015 - 11:43

[b'>UPDATE[/b'> Thanks to all who signed this petition, the Royal Colleges have finally come down off their fence and have written to the government pointing out the impact this will have on patient service. When the doctors have gone, who's going to treat you and your family in the UK after all? According to many Daily Mail readers, plumbers and electricians are just as deserving; good luck with that when they need a heart bypass or transplant and all the UK-trained doctors have left. [b'>Another good thing is that the Daily Express has taken this up as one of its 'Crusades', and are encouraging people to sign to support the doctors. Please do; here's the link:[/b'> http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/607716/Express-crusade-NHS-junior-doctor-crisis-sign-petition Just to remind you, 1) junior doctors are any doctors who are not consultants 2) junior doctors do not earn £100,000 p.a. 3) they are protesting about a pay CUT, not wanting more money 4) they do not have their course paid for at university (apart from a pretty small bursary in their 5th year) - no more than other students - but come out with massive debts 5) the government is proposing removing safeguards on overworking them, so we could be back to the 100+ hours a week (would you want to be treated by a doctor in their 100th hour?) 6) it seems pretty obvious to most that this is a back road to privatisation of the NHS. Has anyone heard stories of how people died with preventable illnesses before the NHS because they couldn't afford 1/6d? 7) it's also pretty obvious that the majority of 'normal' people, particularly the elderly, will find it impossible to afford health insurance So, if you want to protect our NHS for you in the future perhaps, and your families back in the UK, please stop listening to the idiots and support the doctors. Thank you

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 22 September 2015 - 07:54

Thanks, Yallakuwait. And thank you to everyone else who has signed the petition as well. Latest from the Daily Mail: [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244031/1-600-doctors-apply-work-overseas-just-three-DAYS.html'>link[/url'> Truly, read some of the comments and despair at the level of understanding shown by the general public. I wonder if they realise just how much it will impact on them when those they consider not to be 'real' doctors leave for other countries, and how much it will cost them when the NHS is privatised?

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 22 September 2015 - 00:50

Disgusting state of affairs - Signed.

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Latest post on 21 September 2015 - 20:52

Thank you. And to add even more ludicrousness to the situation, the government is paying Physicians' Assistants more than many junior doctors. For example: Physicians Associate University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay (UHMB) - Lancaster £31,072 - £40,964 a year This post is a great opportunity for an experienced or newly qualified Physician Associate (formerly physician assistant) wanting to balance lifestyle with... 2 days ago - save job - email - more... OR Physician Assistant -Emergency Medicine The National Physician Associate Expansion Program... - United Kingdom £50,000 a year Current and valid certification with the National Commission on Certification for Physician Assistants (NCCPA) or Registration with the UK Physician Associate... HEALTHeCAREERS Network - 25 days ago - save job - email - more... So somebody who has done a two-year course is paid more than doctors who have studied for 5-6 years, then are around 8 years in their career. What is wrong with the UK? This is mad! Talking to my daughter this evening, she told me that on the current NHS careers page, they are advertising for a junior doctor position and for a cleaner - guess which one is being paid more? If it weren't so awful, it would be funny.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 21 September 2015 - 18:40

Signed, outrageous proposal.

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Latest post on 21 September 2015 - 13:56

Hello there, I would really appreciate it if you would consider signing this petition if you or your family have ever used the NHS, value its ideals, or envisage using it in the future. Basically, the UK government wants to cut junior doctors' salaries by approximately 30% - this is a unilateral decision as they are unwilling to reach any compromise with the various medical unions. 'Junior' doctors, by the way, are any doctors who are not consultants, but by calling them 'junior' it means that it can get the public on its side with various derogatory attacks. As we all know, 'junior' anything are not really any good, so don't deserve a decent salary (or so the newspapers tell us!). However, these doctors, who used to be called House Officer, Senior House Officer, Registrar, Senior Registrar, Speciality Registrar, are lumped together by the UK government, and by uninformed public opinion, as apprentices who know very little, but are all earning at least 100k a year! Both my kids are doctors: - my daughter is in her 8th year and is a Senior Registrar in Anaesthetics and ICU - she's the one who comes running when your father or husband has had a massive heart attack and tries to bring them back to life. She's the one on night shift who is the most senior doctor in the whole hospital, so is responsible for everything, while at the same time is in theatre as the only anaesthetist on duty. She's the one who comes home at 4am when she should have finished at 10pm, because could she just walk out and let someone die if she could try to stop it? She doesn't get paid for all these extra hours, because the NHS says that she has 'chosen' to donate her time. Her basic salary after 8 years and with all this responsibility is around 33k. She worked out once that if she divides her monthly salary by the number of hours she does she is earning less than the hourly living wage, much pushed by the government for low-paid workers. - my son is in his 9th year and is a Senior Registrar in Emergency Medicine at the biggest trauma centre in the UK - they don't get the broken legs and bad coughs; they get the hugely awful emergency cases, where the likelihood is that the patient will die. The fact that many of them don't is due to people like my son (who is quite often attacked by the distraught relatives!) - all these ‘junior doctors’ who are the workhorses of the NHS. Just for your information, this table shows the starting salaries of various graduates; look where the doctors come - and then they want to take 30% off that. [url=https://www.facebook.com/329395670437015/photos/a.616449965064916.1073741825.329395670437015/991538670889375/?type=1&fref=nfhttps://www.facebook.com/329395670437015/photos/a.616449965064916.1073741825.329395670437015/991538670889375/?type=1&fref=nf'>link[/url'> If the government rams this through then the NHS is on its way out. At present it runs on the goodwill of the Junior doctors and the other professions in the hospitals, but this goodwill is fast running out and our young British doctors will start voting with their feet and go to countries where their professionalism and hard-won knowledge is valued more, such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada. I just signed the petition asking the various medical Colleges to take action on this, and hope you could help by adding your name. If you agree with it, [b'>please pass it on to other UK friends who may be interested in what is happening.[/b'> You can read more and sign the petition here: [url=https://www.change.org/p/royal-college-of-anaesthetists-royal-college-of-emergency-medicine-royal-college-of-general-practitioners-royal-college-of-obstetricians-and-gynaecologists-royal-college-of-ophthalmologists-ro-royal-colleges-please-act-now-to-condemn-the-proposed-jun?recruiter=46022474&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive '>link[/url'> Many thanks,

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