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Latest post on 15 October 2014 - 20:56
I'm beginning to wonder if the OP's husband's motives are less to do with religion and more part of a wider pattern of bullying. Either because he is a control freak who feels now more culturally empowered to behave thus, or because it is part of a calculated attempt to make her life so impossible that she leaves on his terms. Either way, not a pleasant situation. Hope you can find a way to improve things for you and your children, Cherpie.
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Latest post on 15 October 2014 - 20:21
But isn't this all part of the great thing about living here? Being able to say "I don't practise your religion. I don't even fully understand it, or what you are celebrating. But I'm going to learn a little bit about it, let our children tell us what they have learned at school about it, eat a little bit of the food eaten at this time, get involved in what's going on around town and be generally open, understanding and respectful towards what you believe". A visitor we had last week was most impressed when he learned that the land for St Mary's church and the Hindu temple in Bur Dubai had been donated by the Government. As much as I respect people and their faith, regardless of whether I agree with it or not, and I will listen if someone wants to tell me about it (as I am happy to talk about my faith if someone asks) I will not participate in something that my faith forbids. Whether it's a religious holiday or anything else. I can show respect in many other ways. But would you prevent someone of another faith observing their own traditions? That, I thought, was the point at issue here.
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Latest post on 14 October 2014 - 15:53
Pistorius and Dewani should both be locked away for a good long time. I am amazed at the put upon looks they both have perfected on the dock, after having done away with two beautiful vibrant young women their families will miss everyday for the rest of their lives. I don't think you can compare the two cases. And Dewani is still, in the eyes of the law, innocent.
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Latest post on 14 October 2014 - 15:49
Oh Cherpie, what a sad post. I wish there was something one could say to make you feel better. I truly hope you can find your way to a happier life. Sending a virtual hug x
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Latest post on 08 October 2014 - 20:14
Take a look at the Cyprus Mail website, there are always loads of houses and apartments for rent in the Classifieds. Most of them will be long term, not aimed at tourists.
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Latest post on 08 October 2014 - 15:51
Here's an idea - why not call up the medical centre and ask and call the embassy and ask. Alright, chill your beans.. Yeah.. the embassy has been closed over the past few days for Eid and when I tried calling them today they fobbed me off by saying I can only request this info and this appointment via email. I sent them an email last week and I am still waiting for a reply, so thought some kind folk on the forum would fill me in on their personal experiences in the meantime as the embassy is taking some time. As for the medical centre - they've not picked up the 3 calls I've made today. Thanks for your super friendly advice though. :/ In the light of political tensions worldwide very few embassies allow you to make contact directly now, it's generally the rule to apply for an appointment by email or via their website. It can be a nightmare if it's urgent, but that's the way the world is. (Although goodness knows why Embassy staff can't deal with telephone enquiries!) Also it would seem logical that obtaining a certificate of eligibility to marry would be done via the person's home country embassy in the country where the wedding is to take place. In other words, if a Cyprus wedding, then the UK or US etc embassy in Cyprus and if in Dubai, the respective embassy in UAE. Essentially your home country is guaranteeing that you are legally free to marry. However, for a Muslim wedding there may be another procedure, best you check both with the Embassy and the Dubai Court.
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 21:32
I know ....the tall and good looking ones ;) That's us xxxx
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 20:35
Like I said, mrsb, anything can be discussed here. But it depends on what the OP expects to achieve. Does she want to discuss things with fellow Arab ladies, or as you said, does she want a western point of view? Perhaps she would just like the opportunity to express herself, rather than a mindset? And perhaps she might enjoy hearing more than one opinion? I thought that was the point of Expat woman, we come from many different backgrounds and can give so much to each other. This is a meeting place, not a battleground. Can we then also just respectfully disagree with one another without unnecessary nitpicking? Everyone has a different opinion and we can all express that to each other. At the end of the day, there is no person here who is an all knowing person and everyone is entitled to share what they think without getting picked on. Absolutely, but let's try to not drag in the race/religion card when some disagrees with us. Now that really would make a big difference on here!
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 20:20
Like I said, mrsb, anything can be discussed here. But it depends on what the OP expects to achieve. Does she want to discuss things with fellow Arab ladies, or as you said, does she want a western point of view? Perhaps she would just like the opportunity to express herself, rather than a mindset? And perhaps she might enjoy hearing more than one opinion? I thought that was the point of Expat woman, we come from many different backgrounds and can give so much to each other. This is a meeting place, not a battleground.
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 19:53
Really happy for you...made my day ! Edited to change reply ,scary LT typed same time as you with the same first sentence ! edited by Nomad on 30/09/2014 We're long lost twins xxx
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 19:09
Great news, tonight I called again for Priti, and about 30 minutes later she was standing at the back door looking in. She is quite skinny, but ok and very hungry. Unbelievable, tears in our eyes that she is ok. Thanks everyone for your help. Oh Peta, so so happy for you! Scraps says to tell you never give up xx
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 18:47
But isn't one a native English speaker?
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 18:30
Racism does appear in particular topics where cultural behaviors or national practices are highlighted, as an example queuing, DEWA bills. I think if n Arab woman came and vented her frustrations, rather than having ears, she would be met with the opinions of every person of how they personally feel about that behavior rather than the rapport needed to help her organize her thoughts. DEWA bills and racism? Now you have totally lost me. And queuing.........you do know the difference between cultural norms and racism" Sorry but you are just struggling now, and not helping the OP at all. Perhaps some of the ladies on here who have, as it were, a foot in both camps might be best advised to answer her question.
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Latest post on 30 September 2014 - 17:49
Do you honestly think that this site is racist, Londiamond? Sorry but just because people don't agree with you, it doesn't equate to racism, or bullying, or even condescension. Of course there are cultural misunderstandings, but isn't that part of the mutual learning process? And there will always be spats, and sometimes verbal knock down drag outs, but it is all part pf a multicultural and many faceted forum. (And in truth, those disagreements tend to between those of like cultures, or over spelling and grammar, which is a sign that there is nothing decent on TV that night!) Throwing your teddy out of the pram isn't very helpful and you won't learn much of anything that way. Oh, and try not to take things so personally, this is an internet forum, no one knows who you are and you can dust yourself off, walk away and come back tomorrow. To the OP, I would say the same, EW has a very varied membership, and we can all learn from each other, no matter what the background and grow from it.
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Latest post on 28 September 2014 - 21:14
HRT does of course replace the hormones that are no longer being produced. It can only be used for max 5 years over the age of 50 (by UK guidelines), it has been shown to increase the risk of breast cancer significantly. The study which claimed to prove that has been frequently queried as to its validity. However, there are no indications that it cannot be taken safely for a short period of time to alleviate acute symptoms of menopause. And this discussion was I thought about perimenopause, for which HRT would not be prescribed.
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Latest post on 28 September 2014 - 21:01
Terribly sad, but isn't she dealing with it with such courage and dignity?
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Latest post on 28 September 2014 - 20:58
There seems to be a consensus here that the average age of menopause is 50. But the key word is average.........which does not mean the norm. I have had friends who went through menopause before forty, some not till late fifties. A very rough guide is age of menarche, the earlier that happens, the later the menopause, but so many other factors are involved, stress, diet, medical history etc it is very unwise to take that as written on stone. As for peri menopause, it means just that, it is the run up to the start of full blown menopausal symptoms - the mood swings, hot flushes, weight gain etc and cessation of periods. It starts much earlier than most people realise, partly because many are symptom free until menopause per se is evident, One specialist I consulted in my forties told me that the majority of people, including his fellow professionals were woefully ignorant of the fact that the falling off of hormonal activity is just that, a gradual diminuation and not a sudden systems failure. Irregular periods, depression, skin disorders, digestive problems are just a few of the possible symptoms of peri menopause. I actually felt better when the dreaded change actually hit me at 49, after my first hot flash I went on HRT. Not only did that work wonders for the physical symptoms but I felt validated because it was an instantly identifiable condition as opposed to the vague malaise I had experienced for the previous five years. Now obviously not all women are the same, but from my own experience, and that of others I know, it does no harm to consider the possibility of perimenopause, even if you really don't want to accept that time is ticking by. Nothing wrong with becoming mature, and better to recognise the normal passage of time than to agonise about the symptoms. (Once of course, that you have ruled out the possibility of a happier event, in which case, congratulations!)
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Latest post on 27 September 2014 - 15:47
Don't lose hope, Peta, my boy Scraps was MIA for four months in the Springs. He had gone to sleep in a neighbour's open top car in Springs 15. jumped out at Springs 6, was spotted in Springs 11 two weeks later, and finally found in Springs 7. Check out every lost /found cat posting, and don't count on accurate descriptions, dismiss nothing. Good luck, I know how desperate you are feeling. Trishx
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Latest post on 26 September 2014 - 20:38
The name calling is aimed at those posters who red thumb posts which logically do not have an agree/disagree dimension. Those who do it out of boredom, or because they have decided that they do not like another poster and red thumb their every post as a matter of principle. If you have a problem with EW's advertising rates then you should have said so, either on the board or to the board owners. However I think you are totally misinterpreting DR's qualification of her post.
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Latest post on 26 September 2014 - 19:35
Its most probably bored husbands who are on their wives' laptops trying to annoy others with their thumbs down. I dont even pay attention to the thumbs at the bottom. They are a joke. Or bored brats. Not necessarily with the excuse of their age.
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Latest post on 26 September 2014 - 19:06
It's not the thumb system which is wrong, it's the sad fools who misuse them. Frankly, I rarely thumb down anyone, if I felt that strongly I'd post, but it is nice to be able to thumbs up a post I agree with, it's akin to clapping in the theatre. After all. how often do people actually boo? But in this instance it is particularly silly, pointless and unpleasant, but anyone who has read DR's posts must know she is wise and strong enough not to be fazed by such childish behaviour. Good luck with the hunt DR!
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Latest post on 23 September 2014 - 15:47
Over fifty years ago, when I was a teenager, I was at a dinner party with a mainly adult group. The conversation veered to the hot topic of the day, the proposed appointment of a female judge (this in the UK). There were various opinions expressed, pro and con, then a retired Admiral growled out his opinion.....the conversation went as follows... Me..........why can't women be judges, we have the vote, we are capable of logical thinking, we may even have a wider understanding of human nature? He..........because, my dear girl, you are creatures of the moon! Me............what?? He...........because a man's very life may lie in the balance (this was before the abolition of capital punishment) and a female judge might be "having the wrong day of the month". After I suggested to him that Queen Elizabeth 1 would have had his head for such a suggestion, the tactful hostess suggested that we "young people" adjourn to the local disco. Fast forward twenty years or so, Dr Katerina Dalton, a specialist in female endocrinology served as defense witness in a murder case in UK against a woman who had not only run down her husband, but reversed over him twice. The accused was found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. At which point, to my eyes at least, five thousand years of striving for equality had been utterly negated. The takeaway from this long story is that women cannot have it both ways, PMT does exist, but what sane woman does not recognise the problem and have it dealt with appropriately. Too many women do use it as an excuse for bad behaviour, and thus do us all a huge disservice, but to imply, as the "doctor" being quoted does, as this being a condition which affects all women all of their lives, is both dangerous and totally shameful. It sounds to me as though the lady in question is suffering not from PMT but Stockholm Syndrome.
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Latest post on 22 September 2014 - 19:56
Silvstet, how do you know this? How do you know where they live? There are a few posters with high number of posts that have been given away there location and it's nowhere in the UAE and they are many times the ones that knows it all ;-) EW has introduced most countries to their site. Well before this happened I had continued contributing to the site even though I no longer lived there.Having spent nigh on 20years in the ME I think it entitles me to an opinion,or a word of advice on issues I have encountered. Some things are universal as is the very nature of Expatwoman, we come from all corners of the globe and when we return to those ' corners ' who decides that we can no longer be part of the forum... Personally I never say anything from behind a computer that I would not say if the person were sitting in front of me. Yes there are some who really do stir things up , you have the choice of ignoring the post and move on or reply without stooping to their level. Well said Nomad. And until the EW mods tell me I am no longer eligible to post on here, I shall continue to do so, though I very rarely comment on a purely UAE post (unless I have experience or advice which is still relevant). There are many issues discussed on here which do not have geographical constraints and it is quite simply rather childish to attack posters from overseas on the grounds that "you can't be in our club anymore". Just say you don't agree with the content of a post. it's that easy. . <em>edited by Livelytrish on 22/09/2014</em>
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Latest post on 20 September 2014 - 21:10
Sorry darlingboys for the highjack :) @ Nomad Agree. And I am not debating domestic vs. wild or marine. The way I see it is keeping any animal trapped (at home, in a zoo, in an aquarium…) is against nature and its will. Great relationships could form yes, but wouldn’t those animals still prefer to live with their own species… edited by Carambar on 20/09/2014 Dogs and cats have lived in a symbiotic relationship with humans for millennia, most other animals, dolphins included have not. Only the most feral dog or cat will avoid human contact and company, and the majority actively seek it out. There is no logical comparison between species which have adapted themselves, for mutual self interest to live alongside humans, with free ranging creatures such as dolphins. The latter group have nothing to gain from contact with humans and everything to lose. To the OP, please do not take any child to see these beautiful creatures abused by their captivity, it is not an edifying lesson. Unlike keeping a pet, which does teach a child the valuable life qualities of respect, compassion and patience.
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Latest post on 19 September 2014 - 09:40
Huge sense of relief. Now hopefully UK can move on. Meanwhile I'm off to bed, after I finish my large vase of fizzy grape.
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Latest post on 18 September 2014 - 14:30
Make up some posters offering a reward and hand them out to maids. gardeners and the security guards. Good luck!
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Latest post on 18 September 2014 - 14:28
Yes, highly offensive, the standard of writing is a crime against literacy!
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Latest post on 16 September 2014 - 08:47
Interesting article in the independant on this. Littlejohn in the Fail has a very funny take on it all, well worth a read for anyone with a British sense of humour.
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Latest post on 15 September 2014 - 21:13
Scaralex, thankyou for posting two such eloquent, cogent and well reasoned arguments for the Union.
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Latest post on 14 September 2014 - 21:35
Clicking on this thread this evening has left such a bitter taste in my mouth. How sad to see fellow Scottish 'ladies' being so disrespectful of anothers point of view & being down right patronizing. I normally have a sense of home & camaraderie when I see a Scottish reference or name among the threads, clearly here is not the place for that. There is one particular poster who is frequently patronizing about most subjects. She mainly comes on here to patronize... Oh puleeze Anon. (Unless of course you are referring to someone else you don't agree with.) Honestly, since when is pointing out that another poster's arguments have more holes than a colander "patronising"? It's called intelligent debate in most circles, playing the "I'm being patronised" card is both childish and intellectually dishonest. But it is quite true, Giily3 that this debate is bringing out strong feelings on both sides, the future of not just Scotland but the entire United Kingdom depends on the vote on Thursday, hardly the time for cuddly banter and group hugs. However it was the poster whom I am accused of patronising who dragged in the old cross border hatreds. That evil Westminster conspiracy to beat Bonnie Scotland into the ground argument is total nonsense and as a proud Scottish adult I am sick and tired of hearing the same old self pitying false sense of victimhood trotted out. If anyone brought discord onto the pages of EW, it was not I. But there again, feeling picked on really is our other national sport, isn't it? If Scotland really were fit for independence then we should grow out of it and come up with real national pride, rather than repeating the same old mantra, it's all the fault of "Thae Inglish". And on that note I shall refrain from any more comment on the subject, bar God Bless Scotland.
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Latest post on 14 September 2014 - 19:19
Thanks for that Izzy, the goats did read it but they ate it before I could see it.. They're like that. <em>edited by Livelytrish on 14/09/2014</em>
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Latest post on 14 September 2014 - 18:34
There really is no answer to that. It seems to me that for far too many of my compatriots, the chip on the shoulder still overcomes logic and reason. Good luck and God bless Scotland.
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Latest post on 14 September 2014 - 18:19
So if we re better together, why are nt we better now? The Westminster government are tearing the country to shreds! As far as I can see our only hope of a better future is to make our own! So what do you actually mean and how do you believe Scots will better off? How will they be better off, please explain why you would vote yes? I mean, everyone who is saying we re better together, why? The country is a mess! & things are continuing to get worse! Things have to change! This is our chance to change our country for the benefit & future of our children and future generations! One of a million examples being trident, if we have a yes vote, the Westminster government will have to move their nuclear weapons out of Scotland, the small rural village near the proposed new site are rightly up in arms about having nuclear weapons on their doorsteps, but the people of Scotland's biggest city Glasgow have had no say whatsoever about having these weapons just a few miles away! We are continually being used as a dumping ground by a Westminster government whose last priority is the health & welfare of Scotland! edited by Scottishbambi on 14/09/2014 I'm slightly dumbfounded by your response, please explain to me the financial implications for Scotland if it was to break from the UK? Explain to me how Scotland is to fund its self? Explain to me when all the UK companies move out what is going to happen to your employment figures? Do you think England is better off re health and welfare? Do you think the UK has not just been in the worst economic mess ever recorded and is actually managing to turn that around and that a split with Scotland now will bring financial ruin for Scotland? Do you really think that the above is a basis to split with the uk? I notice u did nt mention the point I made about Trident?! Scotland has the vast majority of the UKs natural energy resources, we supply the rest of the uk with oil, gas, electricity from our wind farms & even water! We are more than well equipped to fund ourselves, the scaremongering in regards to companies moving South is exactly that! Scaremongering, companies like RBS who the BBC & other bias sources are reporting to be moving south taking all their jobs with them have come forward to say that this is not true! Their headquarters may be moved south temporarily while the currency issue is sorted out but no employees in Scotland would loose their jobs, I think people need to look at the bigger picture here, it's not Scotland who would loose out in independence edited by Scottishbambi on 14/09/2014 I'm guessing that your are including Wee Alickie's hot air as a natural energy source. I now understand, from reading your posts, just why so many of my friends at home are scared for the future. Halfbaked theory, voodoo statistics and downright lies don't fool the older generation, and so I also now realise just why Salmond subverted electoral law to include the under eighteens. As for your repetitive accusations about Westminster, perhaps you should consider the fact that the present PM is half Scot, and his two predecessors both Scottish. Scotland is far smaller than England, yet has always punched above its weight in British politics. This is not going to be a General Election, where the voters can give the incumbents a good kicking and know that life will go on as usual. This is for ever, there will be no rematch in five years. I pray God knows what you are wishing for, because I don't think you do. edited by Livelytrish on 14/09/2014 I ll put ur horribly patronising response down to u having a bad day shall I? Half baked theory? voodoo statistics??!! Scotland punching above it's weight & ageism?!! Sure your not a UK politician? ? I am well aware of what's at stake here, we all are! What makes me laugh is why people from the UK are so up in arms about this? If u genuinely think we have no chance of making a success of our own country, why do u care? What skin is it off ur nose? Why is Cameron in Scotland begging us to stay? Surely u should all be glad not to be subsidising poor Scotland anymore?! Could it be that Really u know how much u have to loose? Please read my previous posts on this thread. You will see that I am Scottish, proud to be Scottish and always will be. I am also proud to be British. It would seem that you are as selective in your reading of facts on this site as you and your fellow YES supporters are on economics, politics and history.
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Latest post on 14 September 2014 - 17:53
So if we re better together, why are nt we better now? The Westminster government are tearing the country to shreds! As far as I can see our only hope of a better future is to make our own! So what do you actually mean and how do you believe Scots will better off? How will they be better off, please explain why you would vote yes? I mean, everyone who is saying we re better together, why? The country is a mess! & things are continuing to get worse! Things have to change! This is our chance to change our country for the benefit & future of our children and future generations! One of a million examples being trident, if we have a yes vote, the Westminster government will have to move their nuclear weapons out of Scotland, the small rural village near the proposed new site are rightly up in arms about having nuclear weapons on their doorsteps, but the people of Scotland's biggest city Glasgow have had no say whatsoever about having these weapons just a few miles away! We are continually being used as a dumping ground by a Westminster government whose last priority is the health & welfare of Scotland! edited by Scottishbambi on 14/09/2014 I'm slightly dumbfounded by your response, please explain to me the financial implications for Scotland if it was to break from the UK? Explain to me how Scotland is to fund its self? Explain to me when all the UK companies move out what is going to happen to your employment figures? Do you think England is better off re health and welfare? Do you think the UK has not just been in the worst economic mess ever recorded and is actually managing to turn that around and that a split with Scotland now will bring financial ruin for Scotland? Do you really think that the above is a basis to split with the uk? I notice u did nt mention the point I made about Trident?! Scotland has the vast majority of the UKs natural energy resources, we supply the rest of the uk with oil, gas, electricity from our wind farms & even water! We are more than well equipped to fund ourselves, the scaremongering in regards to companies moving South is exactly that! Scaremongering, companies like RBS who the BBC & other bias sources are reporting to be moving south taking all their jobs with them have come forward to say that this is not true! Their headquarters may be moved south temporarily while the currency issue is sorted out but no employees in Scotland would loose their jobs, I think people need to look at the bigger picture here, it's not Scotland who would loose out in independence edited by Scottishbambi on 14/09/2014 I'm guessing that you are including Wee Alickie's hot air as a natural energy source. I now understand, from reading your posts, just why so many of my friends at home are scared for the future. Halfbaked theory, voodoo statistics and downright lies don't fool the older generation, and so I also now realise just why Salmond subverted electoral law to include the under eighteens. As for your repetitive accusations about Westminster, perhaps you should consider the fact that the present PM is half Scot, and his two predecessors both Scottish. Scotland is far smaller than England, yet has always punched above its weight in British politics. This is not going to be a General Election, where the voters can give the incumbents a good kicking and know that life will go on as usual. This is for ever, there will be no rematch in five years. I pray God knows what you are wishing for, because I don't think you do. edited by Livelytrish on 14/09/2014 <em>edited by Livelytrish on 14/09/2014</em>
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Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 21:31
Just reading through the criteria of membership to the EU it says it has to be a stable democracy - would a newly independent country qualify as this? Are you really that bored? well people are talking as if would be a given that Scotland would become part of EU - was just wondering what the criteria would be. The EU have stated quite unequivocally that it will NOT be a given.
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Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 21:29
Just reading through the criteria of membership to the EU it says it has to be a stable democracy - would a newly independent country qualify as this? Scotland would not meet the economic criteria as things stand, too late at night to quote the exact formula but it has been trotted out many times in the last few weeks. But no one is paying attention to hard facts, it's all Braveheart and Freeduuuum. What a mess. (And just to clarify, whilst the possible YES vote will make my life difficult, that is not the reason i am so passionately opposed to Scottish "Independence". I love my country deeply, and my country is Scotland AND Great Britain. They will both be destroyed by this ridiculous and poorly thought out "divorce". And that breaks my heart, and weighs far more heavily on me than any personal inconvenience or difficulty.
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Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 21:08
A handful of dried apricots can work wonders. orally? You either have an amazing imagination.... or a very unorthodox private life, LC.
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Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 21:05
LT, why will a YES mean you'd lose your home in Cyprus? :( Because I will no longer hold an EU passport. Scotland will not be in the EU if it leaves UK. I won't lose my house, I just will not be able to live here, except as an alien, which is much more difficult and has far more demanding criteria to meet. My DH is is US, my passport expires next year and shortly thereafter my DH's residency (as an alien spouse to be renewed at five year intervals) will be dependent on a passport with no EU status. Even if Scotland applies for EU residency it will take years, in the meantime, what on earth are we going to do? Cyprus Immigration is not exactly user friendly nor very flexible. Oh well, let';s not panic till after Thursday!! edited by Livelytrish on 13/09/2014 If it is a yes vote LT you could always "lose" your passport and get another 10 year one issued quick smart before any changes takes effect - after all it will be another 18 months before Scotland gains it's independence officially Dishonest, devious................what a cunning plan!!! I like it! Much as it goes agin the grain, I might just consider that! Thanks Genie!!!! (Izzy, I shall claim the goats ate my passport, they eat everything else!!) would they eat a pic of Mr Salmond thou? Even goats have some standards.
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Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 20:56
LT, why will a YES mean you'd lose your home in Cyprus? :( Because I will no longer hold an EU passport. Scotland will not be in the EU if it leaves UK. I won't lose my house, I just will not be able to live here, except as an alien, which is much more difficult and has far more demanding criteria to meet. My DH is is US, my passport expires next year and shortly thereafter my DH's residency (as an alien spouse to be renewed at five year intervals) will be dependent on a passport with no EU status. Even if Scotland applies for EU residency it will take years, in the meantime, what on earth are we going to do? Cyprus Immigration is not exactly user friendly nor very flexible. Oh well, let';s not panic till after Thursday!! edited by Livelytrish on 13/09/2014 If it is a yes vote LT you could always "lose" your passport and get another 10 year one issued quick smart before any changes takes effect - after all it will be another 18 months before Scotland gains it's independence officially Dishonest, devious................what a cunning plan!!! I like it! Much as it goes agin the grain, I might just consider that! Thanks Genie!!!! (Izzy, I shall claim the goats ate my passport, they eat everything else!!)
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Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 20:44
Believe you me, it's manic here at the moment and I will be glad when this whole debachle is over! My sister and her husband and adult son are yes voters and it has been so difficult not to come to blows. Independence would be a disaster for the whole of the UK in every sense and the stupid yessers just can't see beyond the romantic idea of being our own country!! Don't get me started on wee king eck and his wanna be queen "nicky) Another thing that bugs me is that my DS who is in Dubai for a fixed time (3 years) cannot vote. He was born here and once his contract ends, will come home and stay in Scotland as from next summer. He loves Edinburgh and is already looking at jobs etc in our capital city. On the other hand, immigrants who have only lived here 3 years, CAN vote!! I certainly don't think that expats who have no desire to live in Scotland, or those who live in England should have the vote. But surely you can't think it's ok to deprive us of our nationality without the right to choose?
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 20:29
That all sounds like a real pickle LT :( Aye, it's a richt bliddy kirn.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 20:25
LT, why will a YES mean you'd lose your home in Cyprus? :( Because I will no longer hold an EU passport. Scotland will not be in the EU if it leaves UK. I won't lose my house, I just will not be able to live here, except as an alien, which is much more difficult and has far more demanding criteria to meet. My DH is is US, my passport expires next year and shortly thereafter my DH's residency (as an alien spouse to be renewed at five year intervals) will be dependent on a passport with no EU status. Even if Scotland applies for EU residency it will take years, in the meantime, what on earth are we going to do? Cyprus Immigration is not exactly user friendly nor very flexible. Oh well, let';s not panic till after Thursday!! <em>edited by Livelytrish on 13/09/2014</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 20:11
A handful of dried apricots can work wonders.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 20:07
I suspect most expats who think it is a good idea believe that it will not affect them, that it might mean no more than a warm fuzzy glow and a pretty tartan border on their British passports. And unfortunately many of their Scottish brethren at home are under the same illusion, they think that Independence will mean a net gain, that they will have all the present advantages of UK union, plus huge (unspecified and unquantifiable) benefits. The reverse is true, Scotland will lose so much and gain absolutely.nothing except a massive hangover the day after the election. Anyone with any cogent arguments to the contrary, please enlighten me. Believe me, I am desperate for some ray of hope.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 19:39
And Izzy, I suggest you ask those Scottish friends of yours if they have considered the implications of losing their go anywhere without question UK/EU passports. They are not going to enjoy queuing at Dubai immigration in the line with the poor labourers clutching their sheaves of paperwork. Without an internationally agreed status we will all be in limbo for years. Unless of course we all return to live on the social in Alex's utopia. They are expats - they are actually coming round to the idea that this would be better for Scotland and those living there. Again, not my opinions. They can't possibly be so naive to believe that an expat's life is not affected by their passport status? In my case, I will lose my right of abode in Cyprus, my home, I thought, for the rest of my life. And in UAE, a non EU passport holder will have a far less easy time with immigration and visa issues. Still, i suppose distance lends enchantment, and if they don't plan on having to live with the consequences of Salmond's ego trip, then good luck to them. But I sincerely hope they have moved any savings out of Sterling,
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 19:27
And Izzy, I suggest you ask those Scottish friends of yours if they have considered the implications of losing their go anywhere without question UK/EU passports. They are not going to enjoy queuing at Dubai immigration in the line with the poor labourers clutching their sheaves of paperwork. Without an internationally agreed status we will all be in limbo for years. Unless of course we all return to live on the social in Alex's utopia.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 19:20
As a UK citizen who has chosen to live outside the UK for most of my adult life and don't see a future in which i reside in the UK again, part of me things that this is some what not really my business to be for or against and i don't know enough about the issues to give an informed opinion - although i do think it will be a sad day for the UK if Scotland votes "yes". I have a few Scottish friends who are coming round to the idea of a voting "yes". If Scotland does vote to leave the UK, why would Scots think they can keep their UK passport? Because some of us have been denied the chance to vote. And as such we are being deprived of the nationality we would wish to keep. I was born a citizen of Great Britain, both my grandfathers died for Great Britain, as did several uncles and great uncles, my father was maimed in the service of his country, Great Britain. I am Scottish, but British first, and I, and many hundreds of thousands have been denied the right to choose. And before you suggest that by leaving UK we have abandoned that right, I must ask you how you would feel if as an expat you were deprived of your passport ........and birthright.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 19:00
I really hadn't done too much research or reading on it all until DH asked earlier today what happens to passports/citizenship for expats, and children of expats who are born abroad and [i'>those [/i'>children's children, if they are born abroad. Do you really think a YES vote will happen though LT? Although I would love Scotland to be its own little country, it all sounds too complicated to sort out. Would not like to have to be making the voting decision this week! It's on a knife edge.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 September 2014 - 18:39
Yes, we can keep our UK/EU passports UNTIL they expire. After that THINGS ARE STILL UNCLEAR. Thankyou Salmond, we are really going to enjoy being virtually stateless. I now live in Cyprus thanks to my EU passport, without that I will be an alien, no longer with automatic right of abode. And you ladies in UAE will be right at the back of the immigration queue along with the poor labourers clutching their sheaves of papers. The megalomaniac Salmond cares about nothing except his own ego, he has no plan for the future, no policies, nothing except his pathetic Mel Gibsonesque cry of "Freeduuuuum." God help my beloved country, it is on the precipice of disaster.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 11 September 2014 - 14:40
Whatever the verdict, having listened to the judge so far, it will be logical, reasoned and fair. Very impressive lady.
 
 
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