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Confused on whether renting a villa separated into diff. Units is the right choice???Could someone please advise me!

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 December 2012 - 22:13

Try to make it as short as possible. My husband came here on a work visa and my son and I are on a visitors pass until the residency is issued etc... We saw an apartment and think its perfect its in a villa separated into 4 different units. Also water and electricity are included meaning it will be under the owners name and no need for my husband to register his name.
My concern is we heard not having a "utility bill" under my husbands name could become an issue in the future with our family visa. Now this doesn't make any sense to me really. What does a family visa have to do with having a utility bill registered under his name in order to not have conflicts later on with my husband (our sponsor) & family visa? Is this true? Or it's nothing to worry about? Because my husband was told you also have to have the "apartment contract" attested by the Municipality. I'd appreciate any feedback. Feeling lost and I really was happy with the apartment but we are holding on signing any contract until our doubts are clear. Being it's a weekend now, we have o wait again until Sunday and the Municipality Is open.

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EW MASTER
Latest post on 10 December 2012 - 12:13
When we moved here split apartments were the only thing available in our budget (2008). We were told that a good way of knowing if a split villa was illegal was if the utilities are included in the rent as it is impossible for the landlord to spilt the meters etc. the municipality are apparently cracking down in these and evicted tenants, usually with no notice period and no chance of getting the rent back etc. I would stick well clear unless the landlord can guarantee its legal. Also I know of a number of my colleagues who are facing major issues getting visas for their families as they live in split villas with no bills directly to them, one has even sent his family home. There are so many legal options available now to not have to risk it, and all issues associated with poorly split villas. Good luck yep what they used to do is build a big house for themselves and think i can split into 4 or whatever, but there is only every 1 connection for water/elec and the phone etc, so to get around that they pay the costs themselves also its cheaper for them not expat rates, but as mentioned before they are illegal. and they are cracking down hard now on these sorts of things, so stay away.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 09 December 2012 - 01:45
Thank you so much for the advice pootle flump :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 08 December 2012 - 08:20
When we moved here split apartments were the only thing available in our budget (2008). We were told that a good way of knowing if a split villa was illegal was if the utilities are included in the rent as it is impossible for the landlord to spilt the meters etc. the municipality are apparently cracking down in these and evicted tenants, usually with no notice period and no chance of getting the rent back etc. I would stick well clear unless the landlord can guarantee its legal. Also I know of a number of my colleagues who are facing major issues getting visas for their families as they live in split villas with no bills directly to them, one has even sent his family home. There are so many legal options available now to not have to risk it, and all issues associated with poorly split villas. Good luck
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 December 2012 - 23:42
Try to make it as short as possible. My husband came here on a work visa and my son and I are on a visitors pass until the residency is issued etc... We saw an apartment and think its perfect its in a villa separated into 4 different units. Also water and electricity are included meaning it will be under the owners name and no need for my husband to register his name. My concern is we heard not having a "utility bill" under my husbands name could become an issue in the future with our family visa. Now this doesn't make any sense to me really. What does a family visa have to do with having a utility bill registered under his name in order to not have conflicts later on with my husband (our sponsor) & family visa? Is this true? Or it's nothing to worry about? Because my husband was told you also have to have the "apartment contract" attested by the Municipality. I'd appreciate any feedback. Feeling lost and I really was happy with the apartment but we are holding on signing any contract until our doubts are clear. Being it's a weekend now, we have o wait again until Sunday and the Municipality Is open. firstly renting an apartment that has been split is illegal, unless you have the permission from the municipality. secondly not paying your own utilities is illegal, the reason some people include in rent, as there are two rates, one charge for locals and one charge for expats, the expats paying more, thirdly if you do not have a bill in your name, if anything was to go wrong you would not be able to sort it out, and are reliant on your landlord. fourthly yes they are making all contracts attested for the future, so that they can see that people have a proper roof over their head, and its not overcrowded, a lot of landlords cram in too many people into houses in residential areas. they are rules on that, they can only be in certain areas for bachelors etc to live. i have seen 50 crammed into a 5 bed house washing outside, rubbish outside, buses parked outside and this is provided by a well known local supermarket etc. so the answer is make sure its a legal split ie have the permission and pay your own utilities.