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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 May 2014 - 11:46

Hello everyone

I have a 4 years old boy he is currently in BC FS1 and he was on the waiting list for FS2 in BSAK since last year and finally got accepted
When I applied for BSAK and BC I didn't have a place anywhere else we were in Dubai at the time, but now since he is in BC I am not sure what is the right decision

Any feedback or is there anyone who has an experience with BSAK to give me an idea please of their experience or the school reputation
The finances is not a qualifying point at the moment since both schools charges almost the same

My son is the moving type, curious and he likes to touch and feel things and very intelligent
His social skills needs improving though

Please advice

Many thanks indeed for all of you for reading and reflecting on this

HG

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EW MASTER
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 15:23
Well the former/ousted BCAD head is now going to be the head at Cranleigh with TDIC which is for profit, so clearly he isn't too opposed to that model. As for me, well we weren't able to get spots at BCAD and only a spot for one of two at BSAK, so we went with our third choice which I'd rather not name here because I don't want to stir up any hard feelings or further controversy! But it is a fairly well respected, established british school here, and our experience has been satisfactory, not fab but satisfactory. We might switch to one of the more sought after options if spaces become available. Laws went to work with tdic in preparation for cranleigh to open he was founding headmaster at bcad from april 11 to april 12 so actually in school not even 2 terms! anyways bcad/repton/cranleigh all the same being selective offspring of uk independant schools bsak is in between and non profit. you will find that more often than not if you get 1 place others will move up the waiting list. i am not against any of the schools, here, unfortunately some people do get a bit protective and snobbish.... but as long as whatever school is a good fit for your child then so be it.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 13:41
Well the former/ousted BCAD head is now going to be the head at Cranleigh with TDIC which is for profit, so clearly he isn't too opposed to that model. As for me, well we weren't able to get spots at BCAD and only a spot for one of two at BSAK, so we went with our third choice which I'd rather not name here because I don't want to stir up any hard feelings or further controversy! But it is a fairly well respected, established british school here, and our experience has been satisfactory, not fab but satisfactory. We might switch to one of the more sought after options if spaces become available.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 13:28
From what I understand the two situations are quite different. The BSAK head was a high profile new recruit who has been on the job for less than nine months, and it seems he surprised everyone with his resignation, and now the school has begun a search for a replacement. Speculation would be that he wasn't happy with the school or the board, or the education council - but that would be speculation. In the case of BC the head was there for some time (two years I believe?) and over time - from what I have heard from parents who have children there - the board of governers, including those from BCUK, weren't seeing eye to eye with the head and thought he wasn't the right person for the school's next phase, so they replaced him with someone from BCUK. There was no surprise resignation or period without a head. My children are at a different british school but I've heard quite a lot of color from friends close to these two institutions. And I agree with busybee2 - it is not just the head that runs the school. Indeed the BSAK head had only been there for 9 months so I wonder if his impact had even been felt yet. Thanks for shedding some light - it's nice to know a bit what's going on. My guess (and it's pure speculation!) is that it is the third option you suggest that he wasn't happy with if he was a high profile recruit as a similar thing happened some years ago with a newish head at DC. The BCAD thing was after only one year, their first I think and he seemed to be great, his wife was also involved and children at the school etc. but of course I'm only looking from the outside, so who knows, the whole profit thing must be a hard one for an educationalist I imagine. You mention below that you moved your children from BSAK to BC and now they are at another British school. Do you mind me asking where you opted for in the end? quickly i must add as going out now, but bcad is a profit school, bsak is a non profit school. bsak both him and wife involved in sch too.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 13:22
From what I understand the two situations are quite different. The BSAK head was a high profile new recruit who has been on the job for less than nine months, and it seems he surprised everyone with his resignation, and now the school has begun a search for a replacement. Speculation would be that he wasn't happy with the school or the board, or the education council - but that would be speculation. In the case of BC the head was there for some time (two years I believe?) and over time - from what I have heard from parents who have children there - the board of governers, including those from BCUK, weren't seeing eye to eye with the head and thought he wasn't the right person for the school's next phase, so they replaced him with someone from BCUK. There was no surprise resignation or period without a head. My children are at a different british school but I've heard quite a lot of color from friends close to these two institutions. And I agree with busybee2 - it is not just the head that runs the school. Indeed the BSAK head had only been there for 9 months so I wonder if his impact had even been felt yet. Thanks for shedding some light - it's nice to know a bit what's going on. My guess (and it's pure speculation!) is that it is the third option you suggest that he wasn't happy with if he was a high profile recruit as a similar thing happened some years ago with a newish head at DC. The BCAD thing was after only one year, their first I think and he seemed to be great, his wife was also involved and children at the school etc. but of course I'm only looking from the outside, so who knows, the whole profit thing must be a hard one for an educationalist I imagine. You mention below that you moved your children from BSAK to BC and now they are at another British school. Do you mind me asking where you opted for in the end?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 12:30
Is it known why (in general terms) the head has resigned so quickly and suddenly - is he seeing out the academic year? and indeed why it happened a couple of years ago at BCAD in a similar way ie before the end of one academic year. ?
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 12:12
Sorry to offend and definitely not trying to "scaremonger", I just happened to read this news this morning, and clearly it's important news for BSAK so I raised the question. Yes I realize BSAK is not the only school where there's been management turnover, and each circumstance is unique and different. it was what you were impliying re places becoming available because of this news, and the two are not connected in anyway, if so do you think that everyone in bcad would have jumped ship in the same circumstances, nope, its not just one person that runs a school, its a whole team of professionals that do.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 11:54
Sorry to offend and definitely not trying to "scaremonger", I just happened to read this news this morning, and clearly it's important news for BSAK so I raised the question. Yes I realize BSAK is not the only school where there's been management turnover, and each circumstance is unique and different.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 19 May 2014 - 11:18
Not sure if you're still considering moving your child, but you should be aware the headmaster of BSAK abruptly resigned last month after less than one year on the job. He was meant to be a very high profile new hire from the UK. I don't know if this is causing any instability at the school and if this could be why they suddenly have FS2 places available, but it would be top of my mind if I were considering BSAK. Stability can be hard to come by in the middle east school system! rubbish: stop scaremongering.... places become available all the time, this is because ALL schools BSAK or BCAD or BISAD or YASMINA etc etc dont know exactly how many places are available, because people come and go, they dont turn up in sept, they dont tell sch they are leavers so its very difficult for ANY school to accurately calculate how many places are there. also the adec change of starting age has affected ALL schools too in allocating their fs1/2 places. i will always recommend any of the british schools here none over the others.... they are good, some are profit schools some non profit schools there is a difference, some will cost more, some will test more, some are better for that or this, its usually isnt a question of being able to pick its being able to get a place at any school and going with it and then further down the line change the school if there is one more closer or whatever reason etc etc? go and visit the schools in question if you can or speak with them to guage what will work... every family graphics are different and what works for one wont necessarily work for another etc etc. and this happened last week still in the month of may i believe. also bsak is the oldest british school in auh so dont think its going anywhere. the school and governors have been updating parents about this. also the same happened with the founding head of bcad when it opened it doors and has the school failed? <em>edited by busybee2 on 19/05/2014</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 17 May 2014 - 10:37
We moved our two young children from BSAK to BC last year and are very happy with the change. In my opinion BC is aiming for a higher academic standard, and legitimately is targeting being on par with top schools in the UK as opposed to being content to be good just by abu dhabi standards. It's still early to tell but in my opinion what BC has done in just 3 years is quite impressive and it's getting better every day. Not sure what the rationale could be for switching out of BC to BSAK as I haven't known anyone to do that (several other families from our childrens' classes switched from BSAK to BC so we've discussed that quite a bit). On a side note I'm surprised BSAK can offer you a spot in FS2 as that seems to be unbelievably oversubscribed at BC - a few friends weren't even permitted to apply or get on a waiting list. In any case congratulations as you have 2 of the most sought after options available to you! edited by amberly on 16/05/2014 when bcad opened i knew someone who moved her two kids from bsak to bcad, she is a teacher at bcad, but come the next sept one of the children was back in bsak... so it does happen.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 15 May 2014 - 16:34
Hello everyone I have a 4 years old boy he is currently in BC FS1 and he was on the waiting list for FS2 in BSAK since last year and finally got accepted When I applied for BSAK and BC I didn't have a place anywhere else we were in Dubai at the time, but now since he is in BC I am not sure what is the right decision Any feedback or is there anyone who has an experience with BSAK to give me an idea please of their experience or the school reputation The finances is not a qualifying point at the moment since both schools charges almost the same My son is the moving type, curious and he likes to touch and feel things and very intelligent His social skills needs improving though Please advice Many thanks indeed for all of you for reading and reflecting on this HG the school fees for bcad are much more than bsak... this is because bsak is a non profit school, and bcad is a profit school. bsak has been around for a lot longer of course, and for fs2 they now have brand new facilities (obviously bcad is newish). bcad will be more stressful as they will push their kids more as its a selective school, bsak isnt, of course they have to be able to reach certain targets further up the school for gcse and alevels etc. bsak was called a community school in the days of course when there was only cambridge high school around for british curriculum schools etc. you can only be the one to decide if to stick or move.... either would be fine... but when it gets to the upper years there will be more pushing/stress at bcad depends on what your child would be suitable for etc. i would always go with an established brand... bsak been around over 40 years, bcad a few years in auh, of course they have experience of the uk school, but this is auh and its different curriculums etc as they have influence from adec and being a profit/non profit schools too.