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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:24

Hello EW's I have been asked by my friend, if a single mum can move to Dubai, get a job and visa, then put her child on her Visa (no husband invloved) Is this do-able?

or is this a... C'mon Carol2012... are you serious!! Dubai- there is no chance, what a stupid question.
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Latest post on 09 March 2016 - 18:01

Just a FYI to anyone who is wondering - We found out that, if on the childs birth certificate the child has the mothers name (which can happen if the mother and father aren't married) then that is ok, because it shows the child belongs to her.. The process can also be done with the support of legal papers showing the mother has full custody of the child, these papers will obviously need to be translated in to Arabic etc.. however we are not 100% this would go through with out the fathers Letter of No Objection (if the child has the fathers name in Birth Cert) Thank you to everyone for the comments and knowledge :) Hi Carol, can you please look at my question above and advise, thanks

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Latest post on 09 March 2016 - 17:52

Carol2012 can you please advise how did you find out that if the child is on her name only it is possible to sponsor him>? Im in the same situation now with the child but i was never married and father never recognized the child so the child is on my name, but i was told by immigration i can not bring him with me and sponsor him is your information 100 percent true? how did you find out? did she move to dubai already?

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Latest post on 09 February 2012 - 12:57

Just a FYI to anyone who is wondering - We found out that, if on the childs birth certificate the child has the mothers name (which can happen if the mother and father aren't married) then that is ok, because it shows the child belongs to her.. The process can also be done with the support of legal papers showing the mother has full custody of the child, these papers will obviously need to be translated in to Arabic etc.. however we are not 100% this would go through with out the fathers Letter of No Objection (if the child has the fathers name in Birth Cert) Thank you to everyone for the comments and knowledge :)

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Latest post on 01 February 2012 - 19:02

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't? The law doesn't apply to Muslimsonly . Cohabitating isn't allowed here, you have to go to the court to get married if you want to legally be able to be sponsored by a male partner. In that case, the child of the mother would be able to have her husband sponsor her child. edited by Marroosh on 31/01/2012 Maroosh, I think you may have misunderstood. The question wasn't why would they get married; it was why would they get married under Sharia law - the answer to which is almost certainly that as non-Muslims, they wouldn't. They could get married their own way; it would be just as valid. It also wouldn't really help in the sponsorship of the child position in that the biological father's consent would still be needed unless the new stepfather were to adopt the child - which would almost certainly itself require bio father consent, making the point moot. Then I think we are on the same page:) if the biological father is there , yes he has to agree of course, but what I meant with the marriage thing is that she would have to be married in order to have her sons sponsored. if they would do it here, they would go to court and then i would assume same rules apply. But I'm not sure if it would be any different if they were married back home. Anyhow, it seems she is planning to move here as a single mom, I think the best thing she can do is contact either UAE authorities in her home country, like an embassy and find out what the required papers are. I am sure she best make sure she has a job already. And get dad's consent too of course.

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Latest post on 01 February 2012 - 03:50

The biological father is on the birth cert, but whether the father would give the NOC is another question. SO it is doable for her then, providing the father can give this letter. The other thing would be her company giving her a package to include school fees.. Is the child's father in his life? will he even give permission for his child to leave the UK?

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Latest post on 01 February 2012 - 00:00

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't? The law doesn't apply to Muslimsonly . Cohabitating isn't allowed here, you have to go to the court to get married if you want to legally be able to be sponsored by a male partner. In that case, the child of the mother would be able to have her husband sponsor her child. edited by Marroosh on 31/01/2012 Maroosh, I think you may have misunderstood. The question wasn't why would they get married; it was why would they get married under Sharia law - the answer to which is almost certainly that as non-Muslims, they wouldn't. They could get married their own way; it would be just as valid. It also wouldn't really help in the sponsorship of the child position in that the biological father's consent would still be needed unless the new stepfather were to adopt the child - which would almost certainly itself require bio father consent, making the point moot.

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 17:48

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't? The law doesn't apply to Muslimsonly . Cohabitating isn't allowed here, you have to go to the court to get married if you want to legally be able to be sponsored by a male partner. In that case, the child of the mother would be able to have her husband sponsor her child. <em>edited by Marroosh on 31/01/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 16:29

There are single mums (plural) in Dubai; I am one, and I sponsor my children. However, their father was able to produce a no objection letter (it was very irritating that this was needed, but....) it is difficult to know what they would do about a case where no father is on the birth certificate; she would really need to ask, maybe at the embassy. I don't think getting married would change anything unless the new husband adopted the child. Carol, is the bio father's consent a feasibility? is he on the birth certificate? Suze, yes the logistics of being a single mother are relatively easy provided that you have a decent income, and find good help. I have been very lucky on the help front; not everyone is. The biological father is on the birth cert, but whether the father would give the NOC is another question. SO it is doable for her then, providing the father can give this letter. The other thing would be her company giving her a package to include school fees.. Thanks Sandfly

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 16:23

There are single mums (plural) in Dubai; I am one, and I sponsor my children. However, their father was able to produce a no objection letter (it was very irritating that this was needed, but....) it is difficult to know what they would do about a case where no father is on the birth certificate; she would really need to ask, maybe at the embassy. I don't think getting married would change anything* unless the new husband adopted the child. Carol, is the bio father's consent a feasibility? is he on the birth certificate? Suze, yes the logistics of being a single mother are relatively easy provided that you have a decent income, and find good help. I have been very lucky on the help front; not everyone is. *in terms of the need for bio father's consent.... it would obviously change things in that he could sponsor her and child, and that they could live together (legally) <em>edited by sandfly on 31/01/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 16:21

It would be a case of... Step One: Her and OH get married under law of their country Step Two: Presuming he has a job, he applies to sponsor her and her son Step Three: She needs to produce no objection from father stating this is fine - she MAY have to submit documentation regarding the legitimacy of the child (or illegitimacy - as normally they may request the marriage certificate, but where one cannot be provided it may have to be shown illegitimacy, I'm guess through a statement that she's never been married prior to current marriage) Step Three is the difficult one. As there are no guarantees. So, her partner, husband, may accept the job and his visa organised first, then he has to do the footwork for theirs, and this could take time, the documentation is the time consuming part (everything would need to be produced in the UK, then sent to the UAE embassy there for attestation and their Department of Foreign Affairs), and then the legal documents will need to be authenticated here, and then translated - all of these adds up time wise. But, if it's a istant dream, so something they'd like to plan to do in a few years time, maybe they could start organising from now. Wow, thanks so much for that AA82! I'm thinking its something they would like to do next year, so I guess they need to get the ball rolling.. much appreciated. x

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 15:45

She would definitely need a legal document stating that the biologocal father did not object to her brng the child over here (that would need to be attested by the UAE Consultate in the UK). Without this she wouldn't be able to get residency for the child. I think it would be quite easy to be a single mother here becasue domestic help is so readily available. But then again, I'm not a single mother!!

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 15:13

If they were married and the child was formally adopted by the new husband it would probably simplify things greatly. But that'd require them to get married and go through the legal adoption process. I'll be blunt. It's not worth it to play games or abuse Sharia law. If she won't legally marry him in the UK, it's not worth bringing him out here. OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't? no not muslim, she just asked... i'm just asking her questions :) SO if they were married, do they need the childs birth cert for the child to go on to the husbands visa, and would this be a problem if the child wasn't biologically the husbands.. confused.com OK totally understand, blunt is good... If they got married properly in the UK, can her and her child get put on her husbands Visa? or as you say he may need to adopt the child first?

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 15:07

If they were married and the child was formally adopted by the new husband it would probably simplify things greatly. But that'd require them to get married and go through the legal adoption process. I'll be blunt. It's not worth it to play games or abuse Sharia law. If she won't legally marry him in the UK, it's not worth bringing him out here. OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't? no not muslim, she just asked... i'm just asking her questions :) SO if they were married, do they need the childs birth cert for the child to go on to the husbands visa, and would this be a problem if the child wasn't biologically the husbands.. confused.com

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 15:04

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't? no not muslim, she just asked... i'm just asking her questions :) SO if they were married, do they need the childs birth cert for the child to go on to the husbands visa, and would this be a problem if the child wasn't biologically the husbands.. confused.com

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 15:02

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Again, would be complicated, time consuming and painful for the mother as AmyAus has put it, but yes it probably could be done, sorry that doesn't really answer your question someone else may be able to answer it more clearly if they've done it themselves

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 15:01

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Are they muslim? why would they get married under Sharia Law if they weren't?

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:59

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know) Thanks everyone, what about the question above? anyone know about this? x

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:45

OK thanks everyone, could be a bit difficult then. IF she had a partner who was wanting to move over... Could they get married under Sharia Law (I'm useless, I guess if you don't go through it, you don't know)

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:32

It can be very difficult getting visa for child if she was never married to the father. not impossible as people have done it, but I think that may involve some paperwork submitted which may not be completely truthful... Other than visas etc, just to let you know, I have known a few single mums here and they seemed to find life quite difficult here from a social point of view which is also something to consider. I knew one single mum who found it very difficult seeing all the families around, mum, dad and children, and also found it difficult to make friends, as they were kind of the odd one out. I know it isn't like this for everyone, but just in my opinion from what I saw being a single mum here can be much harder than at home, as at least at home there are many more like you rather than being the odd one out.

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:30

She has never been married, lives in the UK, was asking if it was doable for her to move over if she got a job, but as she has a child, then the situation is slightly different as she has no husband and is single. tricky? Child is 5 <em>edited by Carol2012 on 31/01/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:28

First of all, how old is the child in question? A parent can't just move to Dubai and enroll the child into a school as you must have a residence visa, and you can't get the residence visa without a job. I've heard of single mothers in Dubai (Good lord, my life is so 1950s out here). They're rare but they exist and I gather the mother would need a no-objection letter from the father to sponsor a child's visa. Hello EW's I have been asked by my friend, if a single mum can move to Dubai, get a job and visa, then put her child on her Visa (no husband invloved) Is this do-able? or is this a... C'mon Carol2012... are you serious!! Dubai- there is no chance, what a stupid question. :) <em>edited by Tallybalt on 31/01/2012</em>

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Latest post on 31 January 2012 - 14:26

Doable but depends on circumstances - i understand it can be more difficult if there was never a husband, if you catch my drift.

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