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Latest post on 16 March 2013 - 15:17
Presumably 'special needs' covers a very wide field. Everything from gifted and talented to say dyslexia (where a child might still have the potential to get top grades across the board, if the dyslexia is addressed),to English as a foreign language needs, to physical limitations, to say low IQ and much more no doubt. All schools may have a 'special needs dept.' but may not cater for all special needs. Just adding as I thought maybe posters were talking perhaps at cross purposes about special needs provision. yes as i said special needs is a big description, i did mention this. and you would need to address this to each school as they will all be different but if they are very inclusive the school should be more up front about it. i know at bsak over the years they have changed their application procedure to include more information about this, 15 years ago they didnt. i think though if you do have any sort of different issues, to actually put them "out there" can be very dis-hearting because of course in auh there isnt the same amount of facilities as in other countries. they are still very much behind on those sorts of things. you also have to know that there are things that can be done with regard to getting "access arrangements" too for kids here as would be the case in the uk but its more difficult to arrange.
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Latest post on 16 March 2013 - 12:58
You're absolutely correct March, Special Needs covers a huge range of learning needs. BC have a dedicated EAL department as well as SEN. Their SEN provision covers all the areas you mention, apart from physical. I think it's a real shame that parents are put off applying there when they do cater for children with a wide range of special needs. The SEN teacher last year was excellent and this year's seems very good too.
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Latest post on 16 March 2013 - 10:12
Presumably 'special needs' covers a very wide field. Everything from gifted and talented to say dyslexia (where a child might still have the potential to get top grades across the board, if the dyslexia is addressed),to English as a foreign language needs, to physical limitations, to say low IQ and much more no doubt. All schools may have a 'special needs dept.' but may not cater for all special needs. Just adding as I thought maybe posters were talking perhaps at cross purposes about special needs provision.
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 23:08
This feels petty to me so apologies but I need to air my opinion but promise I will make it my last on the matter. You have said you know for a fact that other uk selective schools do not take special needs but that was not the point you made, it was that Brighton college do not take special needs. Your comment was in fact incorrect and you have said that people need to be pre warned and should take the information they need and ignore what they don't. So if I were a parent moving to Abu Dhabi with a special needs child I would have taken that piece of information on board and thanked you not realising it was wildly off the mark. well if you have children who have special needs and moving to abu dhabi you will find that its extremely difficult for such children to find any places in any of the schools here. i do actually have quite a bit of knowledge in that field, it will be more difficult to be placed in a selective school as in its nature they are selective so they will not always cater for children with any sort of issue, and special needs is a very big description. in fact having certain issues will be bad being in a school that is more selective and so therefore may push for top marks all the time. abu dhabi is still very way behind on any sort of extra help compared to the usa or uk, although it is beginning to improve and if you can find it its expensive and inclusion is not compulsory. its taken a very very long time for pavements to be installed in auh and even blue disabled parking bays, and even ramps into buildings etc.. i also did say afterwards that i did see that there were ads for sencos etc there which of course may not have been there from day 1 etc brighton college is a british selective school so the admission criteria will be the same whether they are in the uk or in outer mongolia with a bit of tweaking here and there. anyway having more schools here is good, as in the past you had only a choice of 2 british curriculum schools, 1 of those was primary/secondary and one primary only.... so you then had a choice of all trying to get into 1 sch or moving to dubai or leaving auh completely. at least now there is a choice, which is good. you pays your money and takes your choice....... if you have kids that are at the beginning of their school life then a lot of people did move to BC in the beginning as it doesnt really matter that it may take a little while to smooth out any problems and the risks of not knowing how it would turn out etc, but of course you cannot do that if you are beginning to be taking your GCSE etc, you need to get the best teaching as you can and also with any new school it takes time to get up and running the extra curricular activities, or the music/sporting activities which are all important in the whole school choice not just in academics. not every child can be getting 10/10 each time. i have seen people say you wont get into this school because they didnt, but every one's demographics are different, and they will have different rules depending on the time of year, or the places available in a different year group or whatever, so for any admissions of any sch you have to start with the registrar to find out the exact procedure at that particular time as it will be fluid depending on the situation at that particular time. if you are already enrolled in a uae sch now you cannot move until september so if a place becomes available someone from outside the country can come and "jump" the q because thats the rules that the MoE put down but not everyone may be aware of it etc etc. anyway IMO.
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 22:38
This feels petty to me so apologies but I need to air my opinion but promise I will make it my last on the matter. You have said you know for a fact that other uk selective schools do not take special needs but that was not the point you made, it was that Brighton college do not take special needs. Your comment was in fact incorrect and you have said that people need to be pre warned and should take the information they need and ignore what they don't. So if I were a parent moving to Abu Dhabi with a special needs child I would have taken that piece of information on board and thanked you not realising it was wildly off the mark. Doesn't make sense to me which is why I shall stick with factual advice from my own experiences.
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 22:24
Will agree to disagree I think. I would not think to comment on another school just from the word/opinion of others but not from personal experience but that's just me. Look at the comment regarding special needs at Brighton which is blatantly not the case but you felt qualified to make that comment. Maybe I'm too wary even in this country of making defamatory comments :-) everyone has their own opinion and it may be different to yours. so we will disagree thats fine. but if i have information that i can pass on i am allowed to, if it helps someone then all good. its far better to be pre-warned especially living here than to find yourself stuck in a situation. take the information you need and ignore what you dont need...... need not say anymore. i know for a fact that other "selective uk schools" do not have special needs, as they do not want anybody that doesnt fit their criteria, ie they would need to spend more time/expense etc.... and they want to get the top scores etc whatever that means. i was talking to a head who is involved in the private headmasters organisation in uk and he was telling me all about what he feels a selective school is but thats his opinion may be different to someone elses or another school who knows.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 22:15
Will agree to disagree I think. I would not think to comment on another school just from the word/opinion of others but not from personal experience but that's just me. Look at the comment regarding special needs at Brighton which is blatantly not the case but you felt qualified to make that comment. Maybe I'm too wary even in this country of making defamatory comments :-)
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 21:56
As you will see from my posts I agree they shouldn't compare and I have never heard the school comparing themselves with bsak although that isn't to say it didn't happen. My original post was to clarify the many teething issues you claimed the school had, I thought you were a parent. Now its established you are not but you feel qualified to comment on the school. I find this unfair as it is misleading. Brighton most definately have children with special needs, I know of several in the school and the parents are happy with the help and support they are getting from senco. As I said earlier I could not make comments on another school that I didn't have children attend as really it would only be heresay and opinion from friends not fact. it was a post about all schools, which i commented on. all new schools have had teething problems, as i said yasmina and all the rest had teething problems, the curriculum is different to the uk, its run very different in abu dhabi than the uk, bc did have problems, it lost its headteacher very soon into its first year, so that would be classed as teething problems, as i said all schools do in the first few years. bsak or acs etc have been around for 40 odd years so they have gone through their teething problems long long long time ago. they did compare with bsak right at the beginning when they were drumming up trade for themselves saying they are the best, well i dont really care because you cannot compare "like for like" but of course some people will fall for it, as they are new to the area and dont know the difference. some people dont even know what a selective school in the uk is, if they havent been there etc. i can comment as i do know lots of parents in most of the schools here..... so if i have information i will comment. also a lot of the teachers more around, a lot moved from bsak to yasmina when it opened, a few went to bc when it opened, science, music etc etc......
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 21:35
As you will see from my posts I agree they shouldn't compare and I have never heard the school comparing themselves with bsak although that isn't to say it didn't happen. My original post was to clarify the many teething issues you claimed the school had, I thought you were a parent. Now its established you are not but you feel qualified to comment on the school. I find this unfair as it is misleading. Brighton most definately have children with special needs, I know of several in the school and the parents are happy with the help and support they are getting from senco. As I said earlier I could not make comments on another school that I didn't have children attend as really it would only be heresay and opinion from friends not fact.
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 21:33
BC has a special needs dept - they are not quite as selective as it may appear [which is good imo, but wish they would be more honest about it'>. well i did wonder as i had seen ads for them, but surely being a selective school in the first place, it wont be the same as other school special needs etc. the new rules that are coming in for abu dhabi are MoE are trying to include everyone in all schools...... and as we know the schools "will select" on what they want and more so if the school is "selective".
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 15:26
BC has a special needs dept - they are not quite as selective as it may appear [which is good imo, but wish they would be more honest about it'>.
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Latest post on 15 March 2013 - 10:33
oh they did compare bc with bsak. as bsak is the most established british school here, they were compared them with brighton college results in the uk to bsak etc. you cannot compare bsak with bc as bc select bsak dont, bc dont have special needs, bsak do etc etc. you can only compare bsak with yasmina etc etc, but as yasmina is still a young school it is still playing catch up but they are all good schools. i dont see the need to compare and say we are better than you, as what works for one doesnt work for all etc. i know people that were at bsak and have moved over to bc, and they thought it wasnt fair of bc comparing in the beginning with bsak, and this was the old head thats gone.....!!!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 March 2013 - 23:01
Sorry, in the future Repton and cranleigh and by then we will be the established school, although not by 20 years!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 March 2013 - 22:49
Agree they can't compare. Brighton is a private independent selective school and bsak isn't. Can't remember Brighton being compared with bsak. My children had places at bsak when my husband and I attended the open evening at Brighton. Not even sure bsak was mentioned then although they did talk about top schools in the Middle East so maybe. We changed our minds that evening and so far so good. Can't say from basks side but don't think they are on brightons radar, although Repton and cranleigh definitely!!
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Latest post on 14 March 2013 - 22:24
In the few years I have lived here I would be surprised if there were not teething problems, however Brighton have addressed the admin/communication issues and its been much better this year so now not really an issue. I thought you said many teething issues and I'm certainly not aware of that. Yes, they are selective but as that is known by every parent who applies and unfortunately to the many that don't get in then its hardly a teething issue. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as a 'best school' in Abu Dhabi or anywhere else for that matter. What suits one pupil/parent and is important to them could be unimportant or not suit the next. It's a fact of life in Abu Dhabi that geography plays a large part in the school you choose. I have not had children at any other schools here and as such am not in a position to comment on other schools. I do listen to chat from friends about pros and cons of their schools but would only feel confident remarking on an open forum about facts not heresay. did i say selective is a teething problem, nope dont think so. yes i agree what works for one doesnt always work for another. but i have heard from people at bc that a lot of the advertising at the beginning was that bc was the best school in abu dhabi and was compared to bsak when it cant compare same with same.
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Latest post on 14 March 2013 - 22:02
In the few years I have lived here I would be surprised if there were not teething problems, however Brighton have addressed the admin/communication issues and its been much better this year so now not really an issue. I thought you said many teething issues and I'm certainly not aware of that. Yes, they are selective but as that is known by every parent who applies and unfortunately to the many that don't get in then its hardly a teething issue. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as a 'best school' in Abu Dhabi or anywhere else for that matter. What suits one pupil/parent and is important to them could be unimportant or not suit the next. It's a fact of life in Abu Dhabi that geography plays a large part in the school you choose. I have not had children at any other schools here and as such am not in a position to comment on other schools. I do listen to chat from friends about pros and cons of their schools but would only feel confident remarking on an open forum about facts not heresay.
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Latest post on 14 March 2013 - 21:39
Busybee2 are you a parent at Brighton? I'm interested in the many teething problems quote you made. I'm a parent, the school is nearing the end of its 2nd year and bar a few admin/communication issues which you would expect with a new school here its fantastic. We had a headmaster leave late in the school year last year but due to fantastic heads of prep and pre prep the majority of parents/pupils were not affected by this. I have spoken to many other parents in the last 18 months and in the main they are delighted with Brighton. Maybe you could share your experiences? no i am not a parent, as i am happy with my school, and they didnt go up to the years that i would need in the first instance anyway. i am going on that all new schools here, because the system is different ie brit curriculum but tweaked because of the arabic curriculum. bisad when it opened had teething problems, yasmina and all the aldar schools had teething problems etc etc. yes i do hear that even in the second year you are still having admin problems, surely you should have them really sorted out by now. yes i know that the headteacher was let go very early on...... well, that can happen when you have a profit school and has other influences. i am sure its a good school, not the best in abu dhabi as it makes out as you cannot compare with any other school in abu dhabi as its a selective school, none of the others do that, in time when the others open such as repton or cranleigh etc, but in time it will definately give the other more established school run for their money which is all good.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 March 2013 - 21:31
Busybee2 are you a parent at Brighton? I'm interested in the many teething problems quote you made. I'm a parent, the school is nearing the end of its 2nd year and bar a few admin/communication issues which you would expect with a new school here its fantastic. We had a headmaster leave late in the school year last year but due to fantastic heads of prep and pre prep the majority of parents/pupils were not affected by this. I have spoken to many other parents in the last 18 months and in the main they are delighted with Brighton. Maybe you could share your experiences?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 12 March 2013 - 14:33
Woo Hooo... have a conditional offer from Al Yasmina this morning [b'>plus[/b'> DH has found an apartment so it is all coming together. Only another 24 weeks of waiting til I will be out there drinking coffe with you all! <em>edited by Toms Mum on 12/03/2013</em>
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Latest post on 09 March 2013 - 20:43
if bsak have told you no already, they must have a good few people on the waiting lists. you have to apply for the next acadmic year like in january or so to have any chance of getting aplace. i know people had to wait 1.5 years before they were offered a place.
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Latest post on 09 March 2013 - 20:42
Thanks to all you ladies who have replied. Looks like I am going to have sit tight and hope for the best but it is making feel sick inside at the thought of having to leave my boy in the UK this is what happens every year but usually there are more people for places for the first years of school, but when you get to the other end there is less choice, as its only 3 schools that do sixth form in abu dhabi at the moment, there will be more in a couple of years but not now. have you asked cambridge high school about places there and looked at dubai schools as plan b (if you are not restricted on where you have to live) <em>edited by busybee2 on 09/03/2013</em>
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Latest post on 09 March 2013 - 19:13
Thanks to all you ladies who have replied. Looks like I am going to have sit tight and hope for the best but it is making feel sick inside at the thought of having to leave my boy in the UK
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Latest post on 07 March 2013 - 07:55
Tomsmum, I don't think Al Ain would be a great option - there is a 6th form, but friends who lived in AA sent their children to boarding school as they were not happy with 6th form provision. You could check it out though. BB, yes, a commute to/from Dubai would be horrible, but it wouldn't be forever - when you think, it would be Sep 13 until June 15, so less than 2 years -if that were the only option for my child, then I would take it. i dont know about the sixth form provision in al ain. but i have known someone that their hubs got a new job in dxb, they were going to stay in abu dhabi as thats where the kids were at in bsak, but his company insisted as is the case, dubai visa live in dubai, so she had no choice other than to commute up and down for the rest of the year, this was maybe 6 years back when the traffic was easier and what you must remember the older the children the earlier they get into school, she was having to get into abu dhabi for 7.20 am in the morning, so having to get up and drive from jebel ali as that was the closest houses etc at the time and drive down that road..... nearly finished her off. the idea was that the husband would obviously be the one to commute as at the end of the day if you are late it really doesnt matter. also some companies take a very dim view of people commuting that far, hence why they are bringing in the rules regarding ad government living in the emirate they work etc. my husband has done that commute over the many years living here a few times... and its not fun i wouldnt do it with children. even doing it for 2 years is enough.
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Latest post on 07 March 2013 - 07:32
Tomsmum, I don't think Al Ain would be a great option - there is a 6th form, but friends who lived in AA sent their children to boarding school as they were not happy with 6th form provision. You could check it out though. BB, yes, a commute to/from Dubai would be horrible, but it wouldn't be forever - when you think, it would be Sep 13 until June 15, so less than 2 years -if that were the only option for my child, then I would take it.
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Latest post on 06 March 2013 - 22:46
ok al bateen may be going up to year 11,but that still doesnt help you with sixth form for next year.
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Latest post on 06 March 2013 - 22:23
Did BSAK give a reason? It may be that if you hang on until after gcse results a place will become available, but that doesn't really help you now. Your options in AD would be, as you know, Al Yasmina or somewhere like Cambridge [Gems school'> where I think they do A levels. A possible plan would be to think about Dubai where there are lots more options - JESS, English College, Dubai College, plus quite a few more. You could live well outside AD and drive him in, or live in Dubai and your husband commutes [not an option if your husband is working for UAE gov org as you have to live in AD'> - not ideal, but at least A levels are just for 2 years. Good luck, hope you get something sorted. i would not commute up the road to dubai, the furthest legally that you can live out of abu dhabi is al reef, all the other areas are local areas and not allowed for expats to rent, then you have the other way around you live in dubai and husband commutes, again not something which is fun at all and of course if its ad government, not an option at all. perhaps look at al ain.
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Latest post on 06 March 2013 - 22:21
I am becoming increasingy worried about getting my son into sixth form over there. We have applied to both BSAK & Al Yasmina and, even though he is predicted B's in his gcse exams, BSAK have already turned him down. I am now getting really anxious as my husband has already started work in AD and the plan is that we will join him in August. However if son does not get a place I am frantic as to what to do. Has anyone else been in this position and if so did it all come right in the end. edited by Toms Mum on 06/03/2013 unfortunately there is only bsak and yasmina for sixth form in the brit school, al bateen sister school to al yasmina is a new school and dont believe they have got up that year group yet think its year 10 for next year. if you cant get a place then you have no choice but to put him in a school elsewhere. unfortunately its very difficult for any school to say how many places they have for the year groups until nearer the start of the year. bsak kids will continue on to sixth form if they meet the grades, and until the results come out who knows. i know there are a few that will be leaving for next year so there should be space but whos to know how many people are on the waiting list, but until the school have been officially told which often doesnt happen until nearer the end of school year how can they offer places to others.
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Latest post on 06 March 2013 - 21:34
Raha Int, in my opinion (true, I pulled my kids out of there a few years ago, they may have improved) encouraged mediocrity - the kids had to fit into their year groups and were offered no extensions.... my sons went backward academically in their PYP. If you are trying for Sept places at BSAK or Al Yas, or Brighton, don't despair - there are often movements during the summer and places open up in September once they've seen how many students haven't returned from summer holidays.
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Latest post on 06 March 2013 - 20:44
Could someone give more feedback about all raha intl and BISAD. I understand they r IB n British but I need to know about educational standards, which is better? BSAK told us they have hundreds on the waiting list as well as yasmina. Very limited spaces at al raha, Brighton n BISAD. Help please!
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Latest post on 06 March 2013 - 19:32
Did BSAK give a reason? It may be that if you hang on until after gcse results a place will become available, but that doesn't really help you now. Your options in AD would be, as you know, Al Yasmina or somewhere like Cambridge [Gems school'> where I think they do A levels. A possible plan would be to think about Dubai where there are lots more options - JESS, English College, Dubai College, plus quite a few more. You could live well outside AD and drive him in, or live in Dubai and your husband commutes [not an option if your husband is working for UAE gov org as you have to live in AD'> - not ideal, but at least A levels are just for 2 years. Good luck, hope you get something sorted.