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Latest post on 24 October 2012 - 04:11

I'm a twin momma and have sought advice on breast feeding here before, but unfortunately, it didn't work for us. My babies are about 4.5 months now; they are only about 10 % on BF now. Otherwise it's just formula, formula, formula.

I keep feeling terribly guilty about not being able to successfully handle the BF part.

One baby has not much qualms about formula and is easy to feed. The other one just screams and its a task feeding him formula each time. When I put him to breast, he hates it and cries more. His weight gain is okay according to the doctor, but I'm sad he never enjoys his feed time, it's a torture for him.

Is there any hope of things improving?
<em>edited by little_zuzu on 24/10/2012</em>

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 28 October 2012 - 20:12
I usually see Dr Khan at Cooper Health Clinic. I have been very happy with him. Dr Waseem is also excellent, especially since he is a pediatric gastro enterologist - so he will know that sufficient weight gain is just a small part of the puzzle. Gaining enough weight does not take away the pain the poor baby suffers. Both my girls were on medication and did not experience any side effects. Many prem babies are on it too, since it's such a common problem amongst perms and they are usually fine too. It's just such an amazing relief to have a happy comfortable baby after they have been suffering for such a long time. Also you will be able to enjoy him as well. It's very stressful having a crying baby. Maybe consider antidepressant medication that you can get from your GP or a therapist and contact SANDS for support/counseling.
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Latest post on 28 October 2012 - 19:44
I'm sorry to hear what a traumatic time you have been through. Losing a baby must be the worst thing for a parent. Did you have any counseling/ therapy afterwards? There is a support group here called SANDS - Stillbirth and Neonatal Death Charity that may be worthwhile contacting. http://www.dubai-sands.org/ Regarding breast feeding. There is no need to feel guilty. Every mother does the best she can do in the circumstances. Most times, you don't have much control over the whole breast feeding/milk supply thing. If you are lucky enough to have a good supply, that's great, but if you don't, let it go and move on. You can't change your body. The stress of having twins, who were in NICU will certainly not have helped the situation. Being separated from your babies is part of the problem, but that was beyond your control. So why punish yourself with guilt when you had no control over the situation? Just try to enjoy taking care of your babies. Maybe giving up breast feeding will take the pressure off you. Trying to do it all and exhausting yourself physically and emotionally is no good to you or your babies. Another thing to consider, is you may have postnatal depression, maybe you need to look into that? The terrible feelings of guilt, feeling overwhelmed, separated from your babies, having lost a baby. It's a lot to cope with. Go and see your dr and get yourself sorted out and then you will probably find the rest much easier to deal with. Regarding the reflux - so many symptoms, so look at this link: http://www.reflux.org.au/how-reflux-presents/#more-53 My 2nd DD had silent reflux and her symptoms were coughing, loud swallowing noises, sour breath and crying with pain. Her weight was normal, but I just knew something was not right. Zantac and Motillium worked really well for her. It's important that you have a good pediatrician who will listen to you and your concerns/ observations. Since your baby had reflux before, he may well still have it but is now the silent variety. Babies usually outgrow it once they are on solids for a while - around 7-8 months old. I hope some of this is helpful to you. Kittycat, thanks for such an empathetic reply. I have thought about going to a counsellor for postnatal depression consulting, but have hesitated because its expensive and not covered by insurance. Thanks for that link. When I read some like below, I felt a dejavu. Feeding issues - displaying a fear of food or unwillingness to eat - pulling away and arching their back - crying during or after feeds - refusal to feed or only taking a small amount despite being hungry - comfort feeding- wanting to feed or suck frequently Sleeping issues - catnapping during the day - difficulty settling Drooling or excessive salivation Are there any side effects of medication? Are they really helpful? My doc feels that his weight gain is okay, so no need for medication. Which doc do you see?
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Latest post on 28 October 2012 - 18:19
I'm sorry to hear what a traumatic time you have been through. Losing a baby must be the worst thing for a parent. Did you have any counseling/ therapy afterwards? There is a support group here called SANDS - Stillbirth and Neonatal Death Charity that may be worthwhile contacting. http://www.dubai-sands.org/ Regarding breast feeding. There is no need to feel guilty. Every mother does the best she can do in the circumstances. Most times, you don't have much control over the whole breast feeding/milk supply thing. If you are lucky enough to have a good supply, that's great, but if you don't, let it go and move on. You can't change your body. The stress of having twins, who were in NICU will certainly not have helped the situation. Being separated from your babies is part of the problem, but that was beyond your control. So why punish yourself with guilt when you had no control over the situation? Just try to enjoy taking care of your babies. Maybe giving up breast feeding will take the pressure off you. Trying to do it all and exhausting yourself physically and emotionally is no good to you or your babies. Another thing to consider, is you may have postnatal depression, maybe you need to look into that? The terrible feelings of guilt, feeling overwhelmed, separated from your babies, having lost a baby. It's a lot to cope with. Go and see your dr and get yourself sorted out and then you will probably find the rest much easier to deal with. Regarding the reflux - so many symptoms, so look at this link: http://www.reflux.org.au/how-reflux-presents/#more-53 My 2nd DD had silent reflux and her symptoms were coughing, loud swallowing noises, sour breath and crying with pain. Her weight was normal, but I just knew something was not right. Zantac and Motillium worked really well for her. It's important that you have a good pediatrician who will listen to you and your concerns/ observations. Since your baby had reflux before, he may well still have it but is now the silent variety. Babies usually outgrow it once they are on solids for a while - around 7-8 months old. I hope some of this is helpful to you.
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Latest post on 28 October 2012 - 15:08
Thanks for all your kind responses. It was (and is) very overwhelming. My twins were born after a very difficult pregnancy. I had lost my first baby two years ago in nicu. This time, when twins were in nicu, I just panicked so much about them being healthy(alive) all the time. They were severely underweight. My focus was to bring them to healthy weight. Amidst all this and so many other things, I simply couldn't setup a breastfeed routine. Now just wondering how can I get over the guilt. About reflux, you are right, that baby did have reflux. He used to throw up a lot. He has now stopped vomiting. What are the symptoms/signs of silent reflux apart from refusal to feed?
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Latest post on 27 October 2012 - 18:51
Don't feel bad about not breast feeding, it's impossible to do everything! Definitely get e baby checked for reflux, gaviscon and ranitidine made my baby so much easier to feed. If you still want to try breast feeding get your thyroide levels checked-simple blood test ( I couldn't breast fed my first, when I had my second I had been diagnosed with an underactive thyroid, started taking medication and breast fed baby 2 with no problems-except for reflux).
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Latest post on 27 October 2012 - 09:52
does he have reflux? (simple or silent) this can lead to a negative association with eating and drinking, also maybe try faster or slower flow teats and feeding on demand (yes you can bottle-feed on demand) so that he feels more in control of the situation. My thoughts exactly. He may be screaming from pain. I would really get this investigated properly. Both my babies had reflux. The baby does not actually need to be vomiting Or spitting up milk to have it and weight can be normal. Especially with silent reflux, the milk moves up and down the oesaphagus, burning the tissue, leaving it inflamed and painful. So every time the baby gets fed, its just pain all over again. Lots of threads on here on advice for reflux and lots of advice if you google it. For my babies, medication was a life saver. I also always had the head of the cot elevated. Since you are giving formula, you can try the thicker formula called AR (anti reflux/regurgitation) - most brands make one, so just your regular one that has AR written next to it. You will obviously need a teat with a bigger hole in it to allow the thickened milk to flow easily without making the baby work too hard to get it. This does help, but he may still need medication to neutralize the acid, at least until his throat has healed. It is not normal to fight and cry at feeds. Since he does it with both breast and formula, I would seriously think there is more going on here than just a personality issue. Feeding should be pleasurable for a baby. Hope you get it sorted out.
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Latest post on 25 October 2012 - 16:27
I haven't delivered yet so I can't totally relate, but a friend of mine had trouble breast feeding and she got a lot of help from babycentre videos on YouTube. There a lot available for many different scenarios. This may help. Also, ask your doctor about seeing a lactation specialist. Good luck!
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Latest post on 24 October 2012 - 14:50
does he have reflux? (simple or silent) this can lead to a negative association with eating and drinking, also maybe try faster or slower flow teats and feeding on demand (yes you can bottle-feed on demand) so that he feels more in control of the situation.
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Latest post on 24 October 2012 - 07:21
Persevere. My babies are completely different and always have been. My little girl will eat anything anywhere (although she had a period too where she wouldn't nurse) and my little boy hates to eat, always has. Try to make sure they are well rested when you feed them - try when they just wake up, for example. According to my doctor, it is considered a real accomplishment for mommies of twins to make it to 6 months with nursing and you're almost there!
 
 

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