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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:40

The bottom line is if you put Islam on the form your child will go into Islamic classes, end of. You will never be able to get them out of them if you wanted to. If you put another religion no one will prob follow it up. If you leave it blank administration in some schools will deem your child muslim based on the family names and nationality of the child and parents, once put in Islamic classes again your will never get them out.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:38

You do have to fill this in on all school application forms and Muslim children are required to attend Islamic Studies classes (hours vary from school to school). GCC nationals and children from some Arab countries are required to attend Arabic as a first language as well. I'm at a loss to figure out how they decide for those Arab countries that are multilingual and may not have Arabic as a first language. But I digress... You can apply to the KHDA for an exemption for your children from either Arabic as a first language or Islamic Studies (or both, if you wish). They do ask for an explanation of why you'd like them to be exempt and of course, their decision is based on your own unique circumstances. edited by Simone N on 13/01/2011 I have never known an exemption form Islamic studies for any muslim child, don't believe this happens. Arabic can only be made exempt if you can prove it is detrimental and your child has a learning difficulty.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:31

You do have to fill this in on all school application forms and Muslim children are required to attend Islamic Studies classes (hours vary from school to school). GCC nationals and children from some Arab countries are required to attend Arabic as a first language as well. I'm at a loss to figure out how they decide for those Arab countries that are multilingual and may not have Arabic as a first language. But I digress... You can apply to the KHDA for an exemption for your children from either Arabic as a first language or Islamic Studies (or both, if you wish). They do ask for an explanation of why you'd like them to be exempt and of course, their decision is based on your own unique circumstances. <em>edited by Simone N on 13/01/2011</em>

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:21

What about familes who come from countries where Islam is the main faith but have minority Christian followers? We have a Pakistani family in our church back home and his name is Abdul. I'm also quite sure that there will be people who although born Muslim have no wish to follow the faith and that choice should be respected. LOL Joyce. In Islam it is against your religion to denounce your religion and it is a punishable offence. Respect that Hmm, no comment ;)

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:04

What about familes who come from countries where Islam is the main faith but have minority Christian followers? We have a Pakistani family in our church back home and his name is Abdul. I'm also quite sure that there will be people who although born Muslim have no wish to follow the faith and that choice should be respected. LOL Joyce. In Islam it is against your religion to denounce your religion and it is a punishable offence. Respect that

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:03

Embassies can sometimes issue a certificate stating the person's religion, I know most Arab countries do so for their Christian minorities. It is sometimes required for applying for an alcohol license. Not sure whether Western embassies can do the same as religion is usually not registered by the state.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 09:00

What about familes who come from countries where Islam is the main faith but have minority Christian followers? We have a Pakistani family in our church back home and his name is Abdul. I'm also quite sure that there will be people who although born Muslim have no wish to follow the faith and that choice should be respected.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 08:52

My friend is not Muslim her DH is but they don't want the kids to do Islamic studies at school so they put Christian on all forms. i know families that the father is from iran and the mother welsh they had to do islamic studies unfortunately thats the way it is here unless you change their name. My friend's DH is from Suadi, all the kids have his last name and they've never had to do Islamic studies as on the form they say Christian, the kids do have British Passports though so that might help. well the kids that i know of who have father from iran, mother from wales, they have british passport they had to to islamic studies in ad, but then ministry do have different rules for the different emirates sometimes.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 08:39

That is correct Sophia, in ASD DD did not do Islamic classes, but things are a-changing there, and it may soon be the case.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 08:36

My friend is not Muslim her DH is but they don't want the kids to do Islamic studies at school so they put Christian on all forms. i know families that the father is from iran and the mother welsh they had to do islamic studies unfortunately thats the way it is here unless you change their name. My friend's DH is from Suadi, all the kids have his last name and they've never had to do Islamic studies as on the form they say Christian, the kids do have British Passports though so that might help.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 08:12

My friend is not Muslim her DH is but they don't want the kids to do Islamic studies at school so they put Christian on all forms. i know families that the father is from iran and the mother welsh they had to do islamic studies unfortunately thats the way it is here unless you change their name.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 08:12

Sorry but I can't understand why a Muslim parent would not want their child to have religion classes. It's not like they ram it down your throat in the schools here. Surely the child deserves to have the information to make their own decision? My parents are atheist but allowed me to study the religion they were born into and decide for myself whether to practice it or not. Don't ram it down throats here? that actually made me laugh out loud! Not seen the cirriculum for social studies then for non islamic kids at around the age of 5 or 6 then have you?! lol!

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 08:02

Sorry but I can't understand why a Muslim parent would not want their child to have religion classes. It's not like they ram it down your throat in the schools here. Surely the child deserves to have the information to make their own decision? My parents are atheist but allowed me to study the religion they were born into and decide for myself whether to practice it or not.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 07:57

The only religion in question that the child would be made to study is Islam. In case that is what you want to avoid it will be very difficult if the father has an obviously Muslim name.

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Latest post on 13 January 2011 - 07:01

My friend is not Muslim her DH is but they don't want the kids to do Islamic studies at school so they put Christian on all forms.

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 22:17

i know in chouefiat in ad in the past they managed to get away with not having arabic lessons the rules for the ministry in ad was 2 hours a week

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 21:47

What school? I think there are a few that are exempt even though you still have to fill it out on the form That was from the application for JESS.. what are the schools that are exempt from that then?? Thanks Sophia:)) edited by Hannadina on 12/01/2011 It depends on the school and which country you're from! Speak to the regisrar before you fill out the form, you may be able to state your religion as "other". But if your child's birth certificate says "Muslim" then there is not much you can do about it!!

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 21:45

I applied to a few and I am pretty sure they all asked what religion the applicant is However, I am pretty sure ASD does not have mandatory Islamic studies Maybe someone on here knows

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 21:09

What school? I think there are a few that are exempt even though you still have to fill it out on the form That was from the application for JESS.. what are the schools that are exempt from that then?? Thanks Sophia:)) <em>edited by Hannadina on 12/01/2011</em>

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 20:41

thanks ladies for your help.. but what if we do not want our child to take religion classes?? edited by Hannadina on 12/01/2011 if you are muslim you have no choice you will have to do islamic studies, if you are non muslim then you will just do arabic. they teach different things.

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 20:21

What school? I think there are a few that are exempt even though you still have to fill it out on the form

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 20:00

thanks ladies for your help.. but what if we do not want our child to take religion classes?? edited by Hannadina on 12/01/2011 If your child is deemed Muslim, then you have no choice. He/she must take religion classes.

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 19:57

thanks ladies for your help.. but what if we do not want our child to take religion classes?? <em>edited by Hannadina on 12/01/2011</em>

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 19:53

if yr not muslim, put down christian, or whatever. I always put down N/A but have since found out not having a religion is illegal. Who knew? It really doesnt matter, but kids of the islamic faith are required to do islamic studies, kids who are not (of that faith) are not. hth? That is correct. You must state a religion. I believe you would have to do the same when applying for a resident visa.

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 19:50

if yr not muslim, put down christian, or whatever. I always put down N/A but have since found out not having a religion is illegal. Who knew? It really doesnt matter, but kids of the islamic faith are required to do islamic studies, kids who are not (of that faith) are not. hth?

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 19:48

Well, quite simply, this is a requirement from the MOE. Whatever your unique circumstances, you should be as honest as possible, and that is what they expect. The law here states that if the childs father is a Muslim, then the child will have Islamic classes. That is one example.

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 19:48

If your DH is a Muslim your child will be considered as a Muslim and will have to join in Islamic classes.

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Latest post on 12 January 2011 - 19:39

So here I am trying to apply for school for my LO and apart from the shocking waitlist, they have umm a question on the application form in which they are asking about the mother's religion, the father's religion and the child's religion and they wrote between brackets ( you have to fill it out and not be left blank), ummm what is that about???? what if you have a unique situation, i mean i do not understand honestly what they expect??? can anyone explain this to me please. Thanks:)))

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