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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 24 January 2011 - 22:28

would greatly appreciate advice from people who have lived there. What is it like?
What are the main differences from Dubai? What's better and what's not as good as here?
Best areas to live if dh office is in city centre? What is the expat community like?
Any difficulties regarding places in schools? Do expats live in specific areas or anywhere? What should newbies to KL consider? Would you consider it a good move from Dubai? Any particularly helpful websites for expats there?
so many questions..... hope you don't mind me picking your brains...
tia

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 13:16
Hi,I would say that most of the kids in my daughter year group,she's in year 6,will go to Alice Smith secondary campus.Garden school has both primary and secondary on site.You also have to pay a huge sum of money when joining a school,and this is not a deposit just a big lump sum that you have to pay when joining so that also means that you have to make your choice carefully! School activities cost about the same as in Dubai. Kl is not a dog friendly place but a lot of my friends have dogs,not sure if condos allowed them as we live in a house.And by the way our house is bigger than the one we had in Arabian Ranches! The humidity doesn't stop me going for walks but I do them early after dropping kids at school,I can tell you that some days I'm a sweaty mess! The kids thought that Kl looked really ugly and dirty after coming from perfectly clean Dubai,but you get used to it! We love eating from little stalls on the street,the food is amazing and so cheap. Driving is difficult,you have to drive with motorbikes everywhere,the roads are really complicated and even with a GPS I lost count of how many times I got lost! There's things we still miss about Dubai,but I don't regret having come to Malaysia.There are 2 very differents countries and have both their pros and cons! You can always e.mail me if you need more infos at. [email protected]
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 12:10
thank you so much. I think the office is in Jalan ampang. We'll be going into year 6 for school so after only a year will have to move to a secondary. Do most primaries feed into linked secondary schools? I'm checking Alice Smith - thanks for the recommendation. Like you, I am already anticipating missing the beach but it sounds as there are so many other positives. I'm not too worried about the heat but the humidity can get to you I guess. And not having a sea breeze probably makes it worse. Here in Dubai I still go to the beach up to end May. So you and Goofball are saying that you do spend time outdoors but not too long spells? AS long as I can do my daily walking I'll be happy. With the wonderful weather in Dubai just now it's easy to forget that from April onwards and well into October it's uncomfortably hot eating outdoors so what I'm working out is that in KL although you don't get the fantastic November and March temperatures you can enjoy some outdoor all year round. Am I close to the truth? Another question I have is : is KL a dog friendly city? Do landlords tend to allow pets? We would have a real problem if that was not the case. I guess that will influence our choice of accommodation. Having looked at some of the properties on agents websites many seem very attractive, modern and well maintained. Having lived in Dubai, would you say that expats would generally settle for smaller properties in KL? Or is it just the same? Did you get a maid? Are children's after school activities as espensive there as they are here? Do you find that expats of different nationalities tend to mix among themselves as well as with the locals? Is it more common for expat wives to work there than here in Dubai? It is encouraging to hear that you settled well and you are enjoying KL after Dubai. Would you say there is anything about KL that caught you by surprise? Sorry about all the questions.. Thank you again for your kind assistance.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 06:18
Hi Sunnyskies,funny enough that I was checking out this forum today as i was checking out info for a friend who is moving to Dubai,.I have left Dubai a year and a half ago to move to Kl.I found Malaysia quite a easy country to settle especially after Dubai,less frustating. My kids go to Alice Smith primary campus in Jalan Bellamy,the most brilliant school! Kids are so happy there,the school has been around for a long time and everything goes so smoothly.I don't know how old are your kids,but the secondary campus is a lot further out of town. The garden school in Mont Kiara doesn't have a bad reputation,there's also a new British school called The british school of Kuala Lumpur,but can't comment on it.But honnestly if you are looking for a British school,Alice Smith is fantastic. Regarding housing,parents from school live in many different parts of town,like Bangsar,Damansara heights,Ampang,Kenny hill.We live in Seputeh which is 10mn drive from school. I don't know where your husband will be working,but remember that traffic can be really bad! Weather is hot and humid all year long,this means that altough you can do more things outdoor than in summer in Dubai,you still can't be outside for too long period of time,as it can be quite uncomfortable. One thing that I really miss from Dubai is the beach,the closer beach from Kl is in Port Dickson one hour away,it's ok for a break of the city but the beach isn't the best.To drive to Pangkor will take you 3 hours ,plus the ferry, Cherating on the east coast about the same. One great thing about living here is to be able to fly cheaply to fantastic destinations in Asia,with Air Asia for instance. If you need to know more don't hesitate to ask. good luck!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 18:58
Not many Malaysian can afford to hire Filipina maids due to the salary but you can definitely hire them through agency there. Indonesian is the most demanded but currently Malaysia is being banned due to a few incidents of maid abuse. They are working tighter regulation now. You can also hire maid from myanmmar and vietnam. There are also locals (amah) available. Easier to hire, live out, no visa required but most of them speak very little english. There is also cleaning agency like here. Good luck 8-)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 16:30
sounds good. The prospect of mixing with local people adds a good dimension. Permanent smiles not required :-) - I think they would get on one's nerves after a while .... and if one is always smiling how do people know when one's actually happy? Do you know if Filipina maids are in high demand? What other nationalities? I hope to make a trip to KL in the next couple of months to see the place first hand but it's likely we'll have to commit before that. I've had nothing but positive feedback so feel fairly confident that it would be a good move. One not to be missed in fact.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 14:33
the climate - well, i would say you will get used to it after a while. The first few days are always difficult even for me whenever I go home. But people do go to the parks, play football, badminton, tennis etc outside. Malaysian/KL - All I can say is that like everywhere you go, you will meet the good, the bad and the ugly. We have it all. We are not smiley people like the Filipinos or the Thais.....they are always smiling...amazing! Most Malaysian women do work. So, it's normal to have a maid at home as there are no or lack after school child care centres. Considering a fresh graduates salary start at AED1500, please do not go crazy if you find out what they pay their maids....except for the Filipina maids of course. Many muslim women cover their head but many don't. There is no dress restriction really. The wont report you if you wear sexy clothes but some men do stare unfortunately. Our customer service may not be as great as the west but definitely better than here.....especially the banks. Like here, if you go to the expat website in Malaysia, you will read a lot of pro and cons as well. Most foreigners/expats I met or know really enjoy their visit or stay in Malaysia. You just have to go with an open mind and up to the adventure. <em>edited by Goofball on 25/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 13:46
regarding the climate... does constant heat and humidity mean people don't spend much time outdoor / eat outside? Or is it bearable and you just get used to it? I know it's difficult to generalise... but how would you describe Malaysian and KL people in particular? ps thank you so much for the information so far - and the links to schools, estate agents and all of the comments
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 11:07
It doesnt rain daily. It does rain a lot at the end of the year as it's monsoon season. Heavy downpour followed by sunshine. KL is not near the beaches like Dubai. The closest beach is probably in Port Dickson which is probably about 45 min - 1 hour away. Airasia airline make it easy for you to escape to Penang island and Langkawi island (45 min flight). Pangkor island is probably about 2 hours away. Expat community is small in KL compare to here. Workplace are filled with locals and not expats. My DH did go out with other expats but there were always local colleagues in the group. When I was in KL recently, it's very normal to see expat and local went out for lunch or dinner together or see expats shop at the outdoor or night market. Expats are invited to their colleagues or acquaintances houses during eid, chinese new year and deepavali. Christmaswise....probably similar to here but it is a public holiday and christmas decorations are everywhere. I guess since I was not an expat there, I don't really know whether there is a close knit expat community or not as I always feel that it is not necessary for them to do that there. But I might be wrong. Properties which are considered expensive: http://search.knightfrank.com/property-to-let/malaysia/kuala-lumpur/kuala-lumpur?dcurr=aed Mixture: http://thinkproperty.com.my/realestate/Rent/search/Kuala-Lumpur/?bed=0&chk_lshortlet=2&ctownsqt=0&ctportsqt=0&deposit=0&hidUsertypes=0&imgorder=0&lastlisted=15552000&limit=10&limitstart=10&lstlunit=0&mmax=999999999&mmin=0&pmax=999999999&pmin=0&prop_type=0&psfbumax=999999999&psfbumin=0&psflamax=999999999&psflamin=0&r=1&rdo_ServicedResidence=0&task=results&type1_my=2 HTH. Good luck. <em>edited by Goofball on 25/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 10:45
great to hear locals and expats mix. The great food sounds like heaven, too. Crazy traffic when it rains sounds less good - especially if downpours are daily occurrence? But tropical rain does appeal to me, especially if it is followed by sunshine. Sounds like people who have lived there love it - which is great. Mind you I also like Dubai. One of the things I would miss there is easy access to the beach/sea. How far from the city are the beaches? Can't work it out from the map I've seen on google. I see the coast is not far but have no idea what kind of coastline there is. Regarding the expat life there... how would you describe it compared to Dubai. I don't have personal experience of other places than Dubai but I've heard comments about other destinations, Cairo for example, where the expat community is more 'close knit' and generally friendlier. Would you say that of KL? Any other comments on geneal 'feel' of the place would be gratefully received - although I know lots of things are personal opinions.... for example... is there a mass summer exodus of expats in summer? Or maybe not as no need to escape the heat?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 09:41
No. It's cheaper. Or should I say that there are much cheaper options. Imported foodstuffs in the supemarkets is probably equivalent but eating out is cheaper and the glut of fresh, tasty and inexpensive street food is a treat.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 09:31
ould you say the cost of living is the same as here i.e. property rental and food ( not schools ) Many thanks
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 09:01
KL is the best!!!! Grab the chance with both hands and rip their arms off. Anywhere is OK to live with access to the city centre. Schools, like here in Dubai, follow different curriculums so that is usually a deciding factor when choosing and this may well lead onto helping to decide where you will live.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 08:55
Is the living there apartments or villas for expats and is it compounds as here ? In Malaysia, an up scale apartment is referred to as condominium...same as here, most are equipped with swimming pool, gym, community centre, small grocery shop, cafe and children playground. I have not been to housing area that have a community swimming pool or gym though. Children playground, yes. Maybe a newer residential area but most houses with swimming pool are at damansara heights or Kenny Hill. Usually they are big detached houses. In KL, expat and locals do mix.....there are favourite areas for expats but you would see that there is a good mixture of Malaysian in that area as well. <em>edited by Goofball on 25/01/2011</em>
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 08:39
Is the living there apartments or villas for expats and is it compounds as here ?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 08:19
I don't think there is any difficulties in getting a place in international schools in KL as the expat community there is small in comparison to here. The fees however are not much different the last time I checked. There are several well known schools there, so you can contact them and then maybe decide where you want to live as well. http://www.alice-smith.edu.my/html/s01_home/home.asp http://www.iskl.edu.my/index_content.php http://www.gardenschool.edu.my/ http://bskl.org.my/home/InternationalSchool/en/ http://www.fairview.edu.my/ http://www.mkis.edu.my/ If you choose ISKL or Fairview, you can stay around Jalan Ampang which is close to the twin tower. That road is where most western embassies are located. If you choose BSKL, you might want to stay around Bandar Utama or Kota Damansara area (close to IKEA and other malls) but a bit far from city centre. For MKIS and Garden school, you may want to live in Mont Kiara, Sri Hartamas or Damansara Height area. Mont Kiara is famous with Japanese and Korean expats. Alice Smith is top international school there, I would say. Maybe Damansara Height and Kenny Hills would be a good choice. Yeah, it is humid all year round and when it's rain, the traffic is crazy. If you use highway, it's not so bad. Taxi is cheaper than here but always make sure they use meter. I am not a fan of buses these days. Putra LRT is pretty good but avoid using during peak times 8-)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 04:01
It's a great country, Where I want to end up! Absolutely a good move. Don't hesitate.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 24 January 2011 - 22:54
It's hot and humid all year round! :) It's like here except "older" with crazier traffic and absolute chaos when it rains. It can be just as frustrating dealing with the bureaucrats, so be patient. The more popular areas for expats are Kenny Hills, Mont Kiara, Damansara Heights etc. If office is in the city center, may be look into Ampang-Ukay Heights area. As for safety, like any big cities, just be more aware of your surrounding and take caution at all time, overall, it doesn't feel as "safe" as it is here in Dubai IMO. This is a food paradise! Lots to eat and plenty of things to do both within the city and in the surrounding states. Sorry, can't comment on the school issue. I am sure you will get more info from the other posters. Good luck with the move! http://www.expatkl.com/ver09/indexcontent.php http://www.alloexpat.com/malaysia_expat_forum/viewforum.php?f=31
 
 

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