That's gr8 news Sparkly. That is very good progress. It takes effort to be firm with the baby, especially as a first time mum... it breaks your heart to see them crying/ struggling, but it's all for the best. I hope BFing works out well for you.....
TanyaR, having been in your situation (expressing exclusively) for 2 months, I cannot help but appreciate what a wonderful job you've done. Your tremendous effort in feeding your baby is laudable, not to mention the excellent management skills it requires to plan, and strategise for taking out time to express for such a long time. You are one rocking mama.... your baby is very lucky to have you :)
TanyaR and Nams,
Thank you so much for your thoughts and experiences. I can't tell you how much I needed It! I totally agree with everything you said. whilst I was using expressing to avoid stress during BFing, I can now see how stressed expressing was making me! Oh so much thought, calculating and planning, sterilizing... And the time taken to express after bubs has fed, that is when I could put her down.... I had to fight my inner dialogue of is bubs really hungry and hesitating to warm up the next bottle of EBM to avoid wastage. It really is liquid gold here too!
I do have good news, since I wrote to message I bit the bullet and said 'no more bottles!'. It meant a few stressful feeds and also convincing DH and myself that bubs was getting enough from the breast. I could easily express 80 ml, sometimes more from each breast at alternative feeds and this was exactly how much she would take, give or take). Every time bubs cried at the breast it took my every strength not to go to the fridge and get some EBM but now I realize these were sometimes other cues in addition to the flow being too fast, like that she was finished or tired or just wanted a rest. A few days prior, in desperation, I tried bubs on a faster flow test and as she grew accustomed to that she started to tolerate my fast flow at the breast better.
We have now gone two days without a bottle. I expressed yesterday once and this went to storage for when I have to leave bubs w family in a few weeks for work. Bubs is not latching well on the left so I have booked an appt with Dr Delphine next week to work this out.
Right now I don't feel it changes the level of bonding as bubs is so new and she seems to just mean business when she is feeding, in fact bottle feeding meant we could make eye contact etc and did also allow others to bond with her liek you said. For sure though I am more at ease, which will have many unseen benefits. We are not out of the woods due to the latching issue and I still feel pressure to ensure she has had enough since losing that control from giving up the bottle. I am a bit scared to leave the house without either EBM, formula as back up and have even considered taking the pump with me in case we do not feed well but this confidence will improve every day and I think once we have seen Dr Delphine things will get better and better.
and of course this introduces a new issue that bottle feeding did not have and that is will there be somewhere I can feed her while we are out (new thread perhaps). Currently I am only comfy going to Dubai mall!
I am so much happier and even though we still have a way to go, I think definitely we are going to get there!
Thank you a thousand times for sharing!
Hi Sparkly!
Sorry, I don't have a huge amount of time, but wanted to let you know that I exclusively express fed DS from day 10 for about 10 months (he never had any formula) - so it is possible, and worked for us, but I am very happy that DD is actually breastfeeding this time around, as I don't think I would have the time to do it with a toddler as well.
It is time consuming - I worked out by about month 9, I had spent 60 of those days (24 hours a day) expressing the milk and cleaning the bottles - completely aside from the actual feeding of DS himself. You have to work at keeping your supply up, because you don't have the hormones aiding your body to produce the milk. DS was sleeping 12 hours through the night from 6 weeks, but because I was expressing, I was still up during the night expressing to ensure my milk supply kept up with his demand. I also had to structure my days around this to ensure I was home at regular intervals to keep my supply up. I gave up when DS was 10 months, because it was impacting the quality time I could spend with him.
It was great however that DH was able to share feeding/bonding with him - whereas this time around he hasn't had that opportunity (yet). I have to say that personally, I feel no more attached or bonded to DD with her being breastfed than I did with DS being bottle fed. I did quite a bit of travelling internationally in the first year, so transporting (and storing) milk on flights (expressing during longhaul flights) and steralising, was logistically a challenge, but possible.
I would definitely consult with a lactation consultant if you can, as I personally think breastfeeding directly is preferable (and less stressful on you!). But, if you do end up going down this road, ensure you invest in a hospital grade electric pump, preferably a double pump - I didn't do this, and stuck with a low grade single electric pump (I went through 3 of them during the 10 months) - I regret having not investigated pumping better while I was doing it, as it could have saved me time!
From a supply perspective, it is tough, I had to be very deciplined around ensuring I was expressing at regular intervals - I never had a very good milk supply, so really just kept one or two feeds ahead the whole time. For this reason breastmilk was known as liquid gold in our house - we tried to never waste a drop! I was finding it very difficult to keep my supply up from about month 9 (I started introducing a bottle of formula at night to supplement my supply at this point as it was dwindling as the regularity of your expressing decreases they get older).
Sorry, I have to go, but I hope that helps.
Hi Sparkly, I was exclusively expressing for the first 2 months as bubba refused the breast completely and am exclusively BFing now. I can share my experience with you and hope it helps you decide.
I found expressing full time really hard work, with none of the benefits that breastfeeding offers you like bonding with your baby. I felt I ended up spending more time hiding in my room with the pump than spending it with the baby. I also found expressing more tedious and painful, and there is always a risk of supply falling short as your baby is not sucking. Moreover, there was the additonal hassle of sterilizing, cleaning and refigerating. I was lucky I had a lot of help in the initial months, so I could concentrate on expressing full time.
On the positive side, you know exactly how much your baby is having from the bottle. With BFing I always had doubts if my baby is drinking enough milk. Also, there is less dependence on you for feeding the baby. This comes in especially useful if someone else can take over 1 or 2 nighttime feedings to give you a chance to rest. This also gives your husband a chance to bond with the baby if he wants to feed. If your baby is taking the bottle, you also have more freedom in going out.
That being said, since my baby started taking the breast, I am enjoying BFing immensely. I found it extremely convenient especially when I went back home and would wonder how difficult it would have been to get up in the middle of the night from the warm bed to heat the milk bottle, feed the baby and then express in the very cold months - I used to strictly express after every feed to keep the supply up. Thankfully, my baby was BFing by then and we were co-sleeping, so nighttime feeding was just a matter of latching him on.
Feed times are very special times for me and my baby now as my DS (currently 6 months) after having had his fill of milk will then play at the breast - blow bubbles with the booby in his mouth, pull my hair, tug my t-shirt - about everything he can get his hands on. It is a special Mommy only time and I enjoy it.
I think I would never have been able to continue expressing for a long time. If I may, I would suggest keep trying BFing, see a lactation consultant if you need help. I had flat nipples in the beginning, but they got better as the baby started sucking. I am sure you and your baby will get there eventually. It does seem hard in the beginning, but trust me it does get easier and a lot more fun. Hang in there. Nothing can be more beneficial for your baby than taking milk directly from you.
Whatever you decide, I wish you good luck. If you need any more info, do let me know. HTH.
Hi ladies,
I'm having some BFing issues as a first time mum; flat nipple w poor latch on one side, possible nipple confusion after having to feed EBM out of necessity at birth. I also have painful letdown and fast flow if bubs does not nurse often, such as when she sleeps at night for 5 hours on occasions. I am afraid this might lead to rejection if it continues.
I have an electrical pump and more so to avoid stress at nursing time for bubs and myself, I have been expressing and feeding bubs by bottle a lot more than BFing over the past few weeks.
It's a long story with many factors involved but i am trying to BF more and more to replace the bottle when I can because I do actually want to BF exclusively when I am with bubs and express only when I have to leave her with family. Despite all the issues, we can actually BF for a full feed, but night times are a bit of a struggle when she is tired.
If problems do continue with BFing, I wonder whether anyone else has ended up exclusively feeding EBM to bubs and how long for? Did you have problems with supply due to the different type of nipple stimulation that BF and expressing?
This is just a hypothetical question for now and arose after reading up online.
Any experience shared would be appreciated!! :-)
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