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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:55
Hey-has anyone tried that fruit and veg wash? Also-what do you guys think of local produce? I dont buy it, usually...and I avoid anything from india and china because they have serious problems with irrigation water containing a lot of human poop. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 Most imported fruit and vegetables come from India and Thailand, chicken is almost exclusively from Thailand. Google health and safety in these two countries, its very scary. Haven't noticed - most fruit n veg i see are from Australia, China, Saudi, Lebanon, Egypt, Europe, US, NZ...
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:54
Had a really interesting chat with an Iraqi lady about food just last Thursday. She made DD lamb burger for tea, and it had to be Iranian lamb. She believes that's the best lamb you can get, not NZ not Aus, she doesn't trust food that's travelled such a long way to be here as she doesn't know what's happened to them from the production to logistics and storage/handling. She buys all local produce and meat, e.g. veg from Lebanon. When I talked and explained about the difference between organic vs normal milk in the UK, to her, all local milk is "organic" as they do not use hormones and intensive farming practices. No idea whether all or any of this is true or whether it's what she believes...but it was very interesting to hear a "local" lady's perspective on food.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:52
Hey-has anyone tried that fruit and veg wash? Also-what do you guys think of local produce? I dont buy it, usually...and I avoid anything from india and china because they have serious problems with irrigation water containing a lot of human poop. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 Most imported fruit and vegetables come from India and Thailand, chicken is almost exclusively from Thailand. Google health and safety in these two countries, its very scary. What about the fruit thats labeled "South African Pears", or "Gala American Apples"? surely these are not? I am too afraid to google.... <em>edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:49
Hey-has anyone tried that fruit and veg wash? Also-what do you guys think of local produce? I dont buy it, usually...and I avoid anything from india and china because they have serious problems with irrigation water containing a lot of human poop. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 Most imported fruit and vegetables come from India and Thailand, chicken is almost exclusively from Thailand. Google health and safety in these two countries, its very scary.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:40
Maybe that is referred to as food that is in season so not available all year round !!!!!!!!!!! One thing that annoys me even more then the lack of freshness is that so very often things are 'out of stock' and remain like that for weeks if not months!!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:39
Hey-has anyone tried that fruit and veg wash? Also-what do you guys think of local produce? I dont buy it, usually...and I avoid anything from india and china because they have serious problems with irrigation water containing a lot of human poop. <em>edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:38
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...[b'>One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. [/b'>Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ? See highlited above, as well as spending a summer at said company during college. oh just realized you meant the fridge thing. A friend whose family ran a small restaurant here. She told me that a lot of Indian shop/cafeteria owners do it. Places managed by them as well. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 How did SHE know ?? lol am wondering just how many shops and restaurants are owned/managed by Indians anyway - not to mention the shops WE shop at... lol uhhh, didnt want to say it...but because her father used to do it. and she admitted it ??? blimey...... Yes, but keep in mind, if you are coming from somewhere, where people do this often and its normal-some even do it in their own homes, she didn't think it odd to admit to it. She did say she knows now, that it can be dangerous. Its all what you're used to I guess. she knows "now" ???? yet your post gave the impression that this practice is still the norm..... "coming from somewhere".. so you mean this is a common practice in India ???
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:36
Why is it an eye opener ? This is a new country and takes time to get good regulation in place. Other countries have had longer to do so and they still screw up ! Sounds like peoples expectations are too high and forget where they are living. NYCdoll - thanks for the expose! - the complacency and lack of regulation is eye opening. I guess the more we all complain to the offending sellers the better chances we have of food safety.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:32
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Good book. :) PS. Just want to add: I do check everything very carefully when I shop but as another poster pointed out, you get what you pay for out here. I spend over 2K a week on groceries and in three years, have only had two 'off' items in my shopping. I refuse to be drawn into the histrionics in some of the posts here, but I agree it's better to be safe than sorry, and to demand justice if your shop lets you down. :) You spend "over" 2,000 dirhams a week on groceries? Or do you mean a month? Just checked some receipts from the past month and it's around 200 a day, so 2000 a week was an exaggeration. But that includes everything [not just food'> eg cleaning products/washing powder/that sort of thing. ETA: Just asked DH; he reckons 7K a month. . edited by WaxMuch on 26/03/2011 Thanks for clarifying - it's your money but all I can say is "wow" ;)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:25
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...[b'>One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. [/b'>Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ? See highlited above, as well as spending a summer at said company during college. oh just realized you meant the fridge thing. A friend whose family ran a small restaurant here. She told me that a lot of Indian shop/cafeteria owners do it. Places managed by them as well. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 How did SHE know ?? lol am wondering just how many shops and restaurants are owned/managed by Indians anyway - not to mention the shops WE shop at... lol uhhh, didnt want to say it...but because her father used to do it. and she admitted it ??? blimey...... Yes, but keep in mind, if you are coming from somewhere, where people do this often and its normal-some even do it in their own homes, she didn't think it odd to admit to it. She did say she knows now, that it can be dangerous. Its all what you're used to I guess.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:13
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...[b'>One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. [/b'>Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ? See highlited above, as well as spending a summer at said company during college. oh just realized you meant the fridge thing. A friend whose family ran a small restaurant here. She told me that a lot of Indian shop/cafeteria owners do it. Places managed by them as well. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 How did SHE know ?? lol am wondering just how many shops and restaurants are owned/managed by Indians anyway - not to mention the shops WE shop at... lol uhhh, didnt want to say it...but because her father used to do it. and she admitted it ??? blimey......
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 21:12
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Good book. :) PS. Just want to add: I do check everything very carefully when I shop but as another poster pointed out, you get what you pay for out here. I spend over 2K a week on groceries and in three years, have only had two 'off' items in my shopping. I refuse to be drawn into the histrionics in some of the posts here, but I agree it's better to be safe than sorry, and to demand justice if your shop lets you down. :) You spend "over" 2,000 dirhams a week on groceries? Or do you mean a month? Just checked some receipts from the past month and it's around 200 a day, so 2000 a week was an exaggeration. But that includes everything [not just food'> eg cleaning products/washing powder/that sort of thing. ETA: Just asked DH; he reckons 7K a month. . <em>edited by WaxMuch on 26/03/2011</em>
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 20:33
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Good book. :) PS. Just want to add: I do check everything very carefully when I shop but as another poster pointed out, you get what you pay for out here. I spend over 2K a week on groceries and in three years, have only had two 'off' items in my shopping. I refuse to be drawn into the histrionics in some of the posts here, but I agree it's better to be safe than sorry, and to demand justice if your shop lets you down. :) You spend "over" 2,000 dirhams a week on groceries? Or do you mean a month?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 20:28
Why not try buying local produce - less likelihood of it being off as it will not have been transported as far. The amount and frequency of use of pesticides in vegetable farming have been shown to be high in the five farming areas in Al-Ain, UAE. The mean usage of all pesticides was high (6.81 g/m2) while the usage of organophosphorus pesticides (2.11 g/m2) was higher compared to the usage of all the other types of pesticides. A number of pesticides banned from use in the developed countries are still used in vegetable farming http://ffa.uaeu.ac.ae/docs/ejfa/Data/new/16-1-_Mnagement_of_pesticides.pdf Thank you for posting this.....I've heard about this for a long time. And the amount of people that go on about how wonderful "local" produce is! Have always been very wary of anything produced in this region - it's not cheaper for nothing!
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 19:51
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Or if I'd never worked for just that sort of international development agency! Funny book. I heard they're making a movie out of it. Not sure if i would have found it as funny if i had never lived here.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 19:44
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...[b'>One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. [/b'>Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ? See highlited above, as well as spending a summer at said company during college. oh just realized you meant the fridge thing. A friend whose family ran a small restaurant here. She told me that a lot of Indian shop/cafeteria owners do it. Places managed by them as well. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 How did SHE know ?? lol am wondering just how many shops and restaurants are owned/managed by Indians anyway - not to mention the shops WE shop at... lol uhhh, didnt want to say it...but because her father used to do it.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 19:39
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...[b'>One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. [/b'>Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ? See highlited above, as well as spending a summer at said company during college. oh just realized you meant the fridge thing. A friend whose family ran a small restaurant here. She told me that a lot of Indian shop/cafeteria owners do it. Places managed by them as well. edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011 How did SHE know ?? lol am wondering just how many shops and restaurants are owned/managed by Indians anyway - not to mention the shops WE shop at... lol
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 19:32
Seems it's not only in Dubai there's a problem. Just how fresh is fresh food at the supermarket? Read this investigation Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370130/Just-fresh-fresh-food-supermarket.html#ixzz1Hihs01Sd
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 18:10
Why not try buying local produce - less likelihood of it being off as it will not have been transported as far. The amount and frequency of use of pesticides in vegetable farming have been shown to be high in the five farming areas in Al-Ain, UAE. The mean usage of all pesticides was high (6.81 g/m2) while the usage of organophosphorus pesticides (2.11 g/m2) was higher compared to the usage of all the other types of pesticides. A number of pesticides banned from use in the developed countries are still used in vegetable farming http://ffa.uaeu.ac.ae/docs/ejfa/Data/new/16-1-_Mnagement_of_pesticides.pdf
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 18:02
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Funny book. I heard they're making a movie out of it. Not sure if i would have found it as funny if i had never lived here.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:56
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Funny book. I heard they're making a movie out of it.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:56
You need to be carefull with both imported stuff and local stuff. The other day I noticed that the organic (imported) eggs were on sale and wanted to buy them. Good thing I checked the dates; they were nearly 3 months old!!! I'm not really sure how long eggs can be kept, but prefer them as fresh as possible! One more question. Does anyone know where I might be able to get a shoulder of pork? I love doing one of those for a special roast dinner, but I haven't been able to find this particular cut of meat.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:55
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D Good book. :) PS. Just want to add: I do check everything very carefully when I shop but as another poster pointed out, you get what you pay for out here. I spend over 2K a week on groceries and in three years, have only had two 'off' items in my shopping. I refuse to be drawn into the histrionics in some of the posts here, but I agree it's better to be safe than sorry, and to demand justice if your shop lets you down. :)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:51
Why not try buying local produce - less likelihood of it being off as it will not have been transported as far. If you can point me to some local wild salmon I'd more than happy to buy it Izzy99! I do buy local white fish.
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Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:49
Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? LOL the other week I bought salmon and the chap told me it was 'local salmon', it was only after I got home I realised how ridiculous that is??! Probably read "Salmon fishing in Yemen" :D
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:40
Why not try buying local produce - less likelihood of it being off as it will not have been transported as far.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:38
Ah right, gotcha NYCDoll, sorry I was being a bit thick! Do you know anywhere that regulary has wild salmon available? It seems to be occasionally at C4 but that's the only place I've seen it. I normally get the Organic Foods one but would much prefer wild.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 17:38
I've bought some fish and meat from Spinneys Al Wasl Rd that was off but generally I find things are not too bad here. Basically anything canned lasts for years as long as the can remains undented/unopened. There are expiry dates on cans but that's to comply with regulations and there is a large safety margin with expiry dates. A lot of the canned items I buy have the dates stamped on the top of the tin so could not be relabeled. I've seen items on sale in Choithrams that are approaching the expiry date but they are usually all together, with a clear sign and sold at a reduced price. Authoritieshere do take food safety seriously. There was a huge court case a couple of years back where executives from a company were on trial for attempted relabeling of powdered milk. I think if you shop at a large busy shop, like C4 you are better off as there is a more rapid turnaround of stock. Also I buy local dairy products as imported items are so expensive and may not have been properly refrigerated for the whole long journey. That's where I bought the mince meat that was off too. I have not had problems with canned food but I don't buy much of it, all the stuff I am finding spoilt is locally produced or prepared.
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Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:49
I've bought some fish and meat from Spinneys Al Wasl Rd that was off but generally I find things are not too bad here. Basically anything canned lasts for years as long as the can remains undented/unopened. There are expiry dates on cans but that's to comply with regulations and there is a large safety margin with expiry dates. A lot of the canned items I buy have the dates stamped on the top of the tin so could not be relabeled. I've seen items on sale in Choithrams that are approaching the expiry date but they are usually all together, with a clear sign and sold at a reduced price. Authoritieshere do take food safety seriously. There was a huge court case a couple of years back where executives from a company were on trial for attempted relabeling of powdered milk. I think if you shop at a large busy shop, like C4 you are better off as there is a more rapid turnaround of stock. Also I buy local dairy products as imported items are so expensive and may not have been properly refrigerated for the whole long journey.
 
 

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