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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:39
It's a Baker and Spice in Souk Bahar (behind Dubai Mall). Haven't been there yet, so hoping that I won't be disappointed!
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:30
Muurtje, can I ask, where is the farmers market?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:27
I do think that food does seem to go off quicker here. Not very strange considering a lot of it is imported, but sometimes when I look at the vegetables at C4 I just want to cry as they seem to be rotting away and the experience is not helped by the overpowering smell of fish... having worked at a fishmongers as a teenager I don't mind a bit of a fishy smell, but this is just horrible and makes me very weary of buying fish there. Fresh fish shouldn't actually smell at all. Have resorted to going to other supermarkets for fresh things even though they are often much more expensive. Hoping to try out the farmers market soon and have a look at their veggies! Also am trying to grow some of my own.. will see if they'll survive. One thing that annoys me even more then the lack of freshness is that so very often things are 'out of stock' and remain like that for weeks if not months!!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:27
[color=#669999'>[/color'>[color=#6699CC'>[/color'>[color=#6699FF'>This is horrendous to even think about if they are changing sell by dates on the babyfood too! Sadly, they do it with babyfood too. The organic ones too...This may sound time consuming, but its not. Get the avent steamer and pure machine (all in one)-and make your own baby food using fresh veg and fruit, organic meat, and wild salmon. And avoid pork products here all together. see my post below as to why they have the highest rate of changed dates... edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011[/color'> Or you could just use an old fashioned stove top steamer and hand masher! I've never had any problems with meat/fish quality from the Organic Foods and Cafe. Even walking past the chicken at Spinneys makes me gag. Oh, sorry, my post wasnt clear. When I wrote the organic ones too, I meant that even "organic babyfood" here is not safe. I wasn't talking about the organic supermarket-which is where I get my meat and chicken too. I agree, better to make your own baby food at home, any method works.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:19
[color=#669999'>[/color'>[color=#6699CC'>[/color'>[color=#6699FF'>This is horrendous to even think about if they are changing sell by dates on the babyfood too! Sadly, they do it with babyfood too. The organic ones too...This may sound time consuming, but its not. Get the avent steamer and pure machine (all in one)-and make your own baby food using fresh veg and fruit, organic meat, and wild salmon. And avoid pork products here all together. see my post below as to why they have the highest rate of changed dates... edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011[/color'> Or you could just use an old fashioned stove top steamer and hand masher! I've never had any problems with meat/fish quality from the Organic Foods and Cafe. Even walking past the chicken at Spinneys makes me gag.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 16:00
7days, where are you??? Agree Guinness! About time this issue got the attention it deserves. Don’t bother with 7 days go straight to the health and safety regulators. This is totally unacceptable. I often had food poisoning whilst living in Dubai, particularly from eggs and chicken. I’ve not had a single problem since leaving the country. http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2011/March/theuae_March29.xml&section=theuae 2 March 2011, 8:25 PMSHARJAH — The Sharjah Central Laboratory for Food Control has found that five per cent of the food samples it had taken from the market are unfit for human consumption. Sultan Al Mulla, Director-General of the Sharjah Municipality, said that to ensure food safety in the local market before it reached the consumers the laboratory had tested 13,429 samples and found 516 of them unfit for human consumption. The municipality warned and fined food establishments from where the samples had been taken. He said that the laboratory, which received a certificate from the United Kingdom Accreditation Service (UKAS), is qualified to accredit and ensure the quality of the local and regional food production that should be exported to the international market. He added that the laboratory was using an advanced method to analyse fruits and vegetables. Besides, analytical study was being held on hormones in the meat and milk. The municipality is also inspecting supermarkets and groceries to check the validity of the canned and frozen foods on regular basis. Strict procedures are implemented in controlling foodstuff quality and the methods of storage from the time of receiving at the ports until their sale. <em>edited by tally-ho on 26/03/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:57
Approximately245 tons of foodstuffs unsafe for consumption have been discovered and destroyed in Dubai, according to a statement released by the Products Monitoring Section of the Municipality’s Food Control Department. The department has introduced rigorous inspection campaigns to coincide with the arrival of the summer season, when high temperatures can lead to easy damage of food items. Over the past month, tons of items deemed unfit for human consumption, from meat and fish to vegetables and fruits, have been confiscated from the emirate’s vendors and destroyed. Obviously some food stuffs are still slipping through the inspections. Most food is imported from Thailand and India; these countries have their own problems with health and safety standards. If you google this topic it makes you not want to eat again.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:56
7days, where are you??? Agree Guinness! About time this issue got the attention it deserves.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:27
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...[b'>One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. [/b'>Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ? See highlited above, as well as spending a summer at said company during college. oh just realized you meant the fridge thing. A friend whose family ran a small restaurant here. She told me that a lot of Indian shop/cafeteria owners do it. Places managed by them as well. <em>edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:26
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially,[b'> turn of their fridges at night [/b'>as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. How do you know this ?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:23
NYCdoll - thanks for the expose! - the complacency and lack of regulation is eye opening. I guess the more we all complain to the offending sellers the better chances we have of food safety. No problem! You know, the best advice I got about grocery shopping, was to stay on the outside on the perimeter of the store. If you think about it, the produce, dairy and bread is always up against the walls. The fresh stuff basically-the inside aisles are packed with the **** you don't need, frozen, canned, processed and is overpriced and is full of bad stuff. :)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:18
NYCdoll - thanks for the expose! - the complacency and lack of regulation is eye opening. I guess the more we all complain to the offending sellers the better chances we have of food safety.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 15:11
7days, where are you???
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:32
Welcome to the middle east and to some third world countries approach and large corporations allow it to happen ! profit, profit, profit.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:31
This all makes sense; have often seen (especially on cans) "product of XXX country, imported and repackaged by XXX company, UAE". *shudder*
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:29
The UAE and other members of the GCC (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and Saudi Arabia) [b'>are attempting to put together uniform laws relating to labelling, shelf life and food safety for the region.[/b'> However, there still exist differences in regulations where members fail to reach agreement so each GCC country has its own specific regulations. [b'> With few exceptions, all food items are required to have at least half of their shelf life remaining at the time of import. Frozen meat and poultry products must be imported within four months of their date of production irrespective of their shelf life.[/b'>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:26
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially, turn of their fridges at night as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. This is horrendous to even think about if they are changing sell by dates on the babyfood too! Sadly, they do it with babyfood too. The organic ones too...This may sound time consuming, but its not. Get the avent steamer and pure machine (all in one)-and make your own baby food using fresh veg and fruit, organic meat, and wild salmon. And avoid pork products here all together. see my post below as to why they have the highest rate of changed dates... <em>edited by NYCDoll on 26/03/2011</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:22
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially, turn of their fridges at night as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid. This is horrendous to even think about if they are changing sell by dates on the babyfood too!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:17
I think the first half of your question may be the reason we have less shelf live in the middle east and developing countries when products are shipped from 1st world countries and large companies can make more money. I recall this happening with non food products with a large US corporation many years ago, dumping as it was called by sales marketing people their product in 3rd world countries because it could be sold and 1 st world countries would not accept it. Higher quality was being sold in 1st world and deteriorated ones sent elsewhere. So the question is, do they come from the states after they've sat on a shelf for a year or two, or do they change the use-by date here so you have to use it more quickly or throw it out? And, fyi, I've found canned things in both Ch--thr-ms and Lulu's being sold passed their use-by date. Ch--thr-ms is particularly bad with selling baby food on or passed the use-by date.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:15
What I don't understand is that in the states, if you buy a canned product, you can leave it in the cupboard for at least a year. So I used to stock up. But here, I find that everything has a used by date of - at most, a few months. Sometimes, I've bought canned things and found they expired a few weeks after I bought them. So the question is, do they come from the states after they've sat on a shelf for a year or two, or do they change the use-by date here so you have to use it more quickly or throw it out? And, fyi, I've found canned things in both Ch--thr-ms and Lulu's being sold passed their use-by date. Ch--thr-ms is particularly bad with selling baby food on or passed the use-by date. As to your question-see my below post about local traders. They do buy in bulk canned stuff about to expire (cause its on sale by then), and then ship it here to resell with a new expiration date.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:05
Most store food / dry goods / canned are brought in via ship - hence the shortened shelf life. It couldn't possibly take a full year. My parents used to store canned goods for years (that was in the time of the Cold War, everyone expected nuclear armaggedon...)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:04
Probably kept in storage for months before coming out on the shelves. I've notice this with lots of products here. Can't imagine they'd deliberately have shorter shelf life considering how bad the situation is here with selling spoilt food.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 13:01
Most store food / dry goods / canned are brought in via ship - hence the shortened shelf life.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 12:57
What I don't understand is that in the states, if you buy a canned product, you can leave it in the cupboard for at least a year. So I used to stock up. But here, I find that everything has a used by date of - at most, a few months. Sometimes, I've bought canned things and found they expired a few weeks after I bought them. So the question is, do they come from the states after they've sat on a shelf for a year or two, or do they change the use-by date here so you have to use it more quickly or throw it out? And, fyi, I've found canned things in both Ch--thr-ms and Lulu's being sold passed their use-by date. Ch--thr-ms is particularly bad with selling baby food on or passed the use-by date.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 12:57
We only do our shopping at Waitrose either at Dubai mall or The Marina Mall. It's not cheap but it's always fresh and good quality which is our priority. We don't eat out often so can afford it. The smells in some of those other places puts me off when I walk in and the few times we have shopped somewhere different for convenience we have not gone back due to the quality. Hate to say it maxindubai, but we've had some pretty rotten stuff from Waitrose at Dubai Mall (it's just a Spinneys with a different name), including mouldy cheese. I really don't shop in Ch having had off dairy products that were well within their sell by date and weevils in the flour. I have spoken to a couple of people at Sp in Mercato too about them often having Waitrose frozen peas which are yellow and obviously off - though it's hard to find someone working in the branch, let alone a manager! I've just started buying meat for my daughters, as one is on a really restricted diet for a month, but it worries me as my husband and I are both vegetarian so don't taste it before they do. I'm buying the meat from Park n Shop, can anyone put my mind at rest that that's the best place to get it? It's really hard being sure that what you're spending a ridiculously inflated price for has been stored correctly. I think it's more about how it's handled before it gets to the shelves than sitting by the till but I guess that as long as the supermarkets are making their money they won't care!
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 12:38
We only do our shopping at Waitrose either at Dubai mall or The Marina Mall. It's not cheap but it's always fresh and good quality which is our priority. We don't eat out often so can afford it. The smells in some of those other places puts me off when I walk in and the few times we have shopped somewhere different for convenience we have not gone back due to the quality.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 11:33
Another scary thing to be aware of is large companies and countries governments have brain washed us all into thinking if it past the sell by date it is not fit for human consumption and this is not necessarily the case. Governments need and have needed to educate us all in many things but remember they do not always tell us the whole story. Remember it all to do with money . The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially, turn of their fridges at night as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. I[b'>t gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid[/b'>. Can you explain further - what type of foods does this apply to - what do you avoid because of your inside knowledge? edited by Pomegranate on 26/03/2011 Hi, in general avoid prepackaged cold cuts-like the deli select ones, packaged sausages, hotdogs (especially these as they get redyed to look like they should), chicken liver. As a general rule, try to avoid anything from Western countries that is a prepackaged meat that has preservatives to give it a longer shelf life-as eventually they do expire, but the date on them get changed. If you buy cold cuts, from the deli counter, look at the meat closely, if it has any irredesant color to it, avoid it. These cold cuts should also be eaten with 3-4 maybe 5 days tops-and thats pushing it. In the states, they last a week, but not here. Thanks for your reply NYC Doll, luckily I'm not a cold cuts/pre-packaged meats kind of person and would never buy this stuff...but none the less, this is scary information.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 11:33
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially, turn of their fridges at night as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. I[b'>t gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid[/b'>. Can you explain further - what type of foods does this apply to - what do you avoid because of your inside knowledge? edited by Pomegranate on 26/03/2011 Hi, in general avoid prepackaged cold cuts-like the deli select ones, packaged sausages, hotdogs (especially these as they get redyed to look like they should), chicken liver. As a general rule, try to avoid anything from Western countries that is a prepackaged meat that has preservatives to give it a longer shelf life-as eventually they do expire, but the date on them get changed. If you buy cold cuts, from the deli counter, look at the meat closely, if it has any irredesant color to it, avoid it. These cold cuts should also be eaten with 3-4 maybe 5 days tops-and thats pushing it. In the states, they last a week, but not here. Thanks for your reply NYC Doll, luckily I'm not a cold cuts/pre-packaged meats kind of person and would never buy this stuff...but none the less, this is scary information. No problem, glad to share the knowledge :). Hope you don't mine if I ask, but if you eat pork products, be vigilant about checking these. Frozen sausages that come in boxes, you know like links of them. Keilbasa, canned vienna sausages. I know this going to sound especially messed up...but I swear I know this from first hand knowledge. Some of the dealers actually figure, its pork, going to non muslims, so what they are doing is not that bad. They figure if you eat pork, which they view as a disgusting meat anyway, it can't be that bad as you risk your health eating such a dirty meat anyway. I know, I am really sorry-please nobody throw tomatoes at me, I am just the messenger! And I am not saying that all local food dealers do this, but enough do to make you avoid certain foods.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 11:28
The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially, turn of their fridges at night as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. I[b'>t gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid[/b'>. Can you explain further - what type of foods does this apply to - what do you avoid because of your inside knowledge? edited by Pomegranate on 26/03/2011 Hi, in general avoid prepackaged cold cuts-like the deli select ones, packaged sausages, hotdogs (especially these as they get redyed to look like they should), chicken liver. As a general rule, try to avoid anything from Western countries that is a prepackaged meat that has preservatives to give it a longer shelf life-as eventually they do expire, but the date on them get changed. If you buy cold cuts, from the deli counter, look at the meat closely, if it has any irredesant color to it, avoid it. These cold cuts should also be eaten with 3-4 maybe 5 days tops-and thats pushing it. In the states, they last a week, but not here. Thanks for your reply NYC Doll, luckily I'm not a cold cuts/pre-packaged meats kind of person and would never buy this stuff...but none the less, this is scary information.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 March 2011 - 11:24
Welcome to the middle east and to some third world countries approach ! The quality of food here really is a disgrace. I have to tell you something, and it is frightening, but many shops, and restaurants as well, small ones especially, turn of their fridges at night as a way to save electricity. They figure as long as the firdge stays closed its ok..ugh...they do this even in the summer-and sadly a lot of times that when we see a spike in food poisoning cases. And don't get me started on changing sell by dates...One of my relatives owns a shipping company that often ships foods to the ME. Food that is often labled unfit for human consumption-but by US law it can be bought and sold to be used in pet food only. But thats not what happens. It gets shipped here-with expired dates-by a lot of local food dealers and redated. There are certain foods here that I avoid.
 
 

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