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TB Vaccine

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 23:13

I was suggested by my pediatrician @ City to give my LO the TB vaccine since we've moved to Dubai. This isn't typically given in Canada and don't know anyone who'se had it. Have you all given your children this vaccine? Did they have reactions? If so how bad?

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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 20:20
Thank you all for your advice and input. After speaking to a few other mom's as well... I would rather be safe than sorry, so I will give him the vaccine. But for my own comfort and peace of mind, I will do so back home, where vaccines are free and I will be in a familiar environment just in case there is a reaction. One think you might like to consider is that the BCG in particular must be given by someone who is experienced in giving it, so you might find that back home it would actually be harder to find that person, vs in a country where they are giving it all the time. I think actually out of all the vaccines it is one of the ones least likely to have a reaction afterwards as it takes weeks to "work"
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 20:17
rotavirus has been recommended for approval in the next update of NZ vaccines, which is a government funded public health system so no commercial interest in pushing vaccines. DS had the rotavirus vaccine after a nurse friend back home told me of the countless babies she had seen hospitalized from it and a friends baby was scarily sick from it. I hate jab day but would feel worse if DS died from measles/chicken pox etc and wasn't vaccinated. I agree it is personal choice though and good to research, for example we did the maths on the risk of dying from measles vs the risk of dying from the vaccine, at the end of the day it came down to the smallest risk, which was to be vaccinated.
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Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 20:11
If we had a nanny/housemaid I would consider getting her tested for a few things from time to time just to be on the safe side. |But anyone actually working here would have been screened as part of their visa process... and if found to be infected, they'd have their visa refused and would be deported. [i'>That's [/i'>why I am not convinced about quite how much exposure (if any really) my children would get to a contagious TB carrier.. The problem is (unless they work in certain professions, such as nursing/food prep) they are only screened when they first come, not every time they visit their home country for vacation, which for some people means they might not have been screened in many years.
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Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 18:56
I agree with you HAK.... healthy dose of sceptism about all things official here and I'm no conspiracy nut either! as it stands I'm not planning to let DD have the chicken pox vaccine, she hasn't had Rotarix and I wouldn't let her have any flu vaccine either. v sad story here.... http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/saba-button-the-girl-who-is-never-alone/story-e6frg13u-1226035296706 Well the Rotavirus vaccine has a bit of a scandal behind it's approval in the US anyway... apparently the chap who pushed it through (even though it's debatable whether it works well and/or is really necessary) apparently forgot to mention to the approval board that he held the rights to it... He must have been laughing all the way to the bank! There are cases of bad reactions to virtually any vaccine - they are, after all, often doses of the virus/disease we want to immunise against. That's why, imo, we have to weigh up the risks. It's a bit like the fact we don't all have our appendix out "to be on the safe side" because the operation itself carries risks, even though they may be small.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 14:59
I agree with you HAK.... healthy dose of sceptism about all things official here and I'm no conspiracy nut either! as it stands I'm not planning to let DD have the chicken pox vaccine, she hasn't had Rotarix and I wouldn't let her have any flu vaccine either. v sad story here.... http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/saba-button-the-girl-who-is-never-alone/story-e6frg13u-1226035296706
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Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 13:41
If we had a nanny/housemaid I would consider getting her tested for a few things from time to time just to be on the safe side. |But anyone actually working here would have been screened as part of their visa process... and if found to be infected, they'd have their visa refused and would be deported. [i'>That's [/i'>why I am not convinced about quite how much exposure (if any really) my children would get to a contagious TB carrier. Pentel, yes, I completely agree that the figures may be a bit optimistic, but that's what has been published and that's what the rest of the world bases its recommendations on... being sceptical about any published stats here is pretty healthy imo, but we can't completely dismiss them.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 July 2011 - 12:45
Thank you all for your advice and input. After speaking to a few other mom's as well... I would rather be safe than sorry, so I will give him the vaccine. But for my own comfort and peace of mind, I will do so back home, where vaccines are free and I will be in a familiar environment just in case there is a reaction.
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Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 17:50
My son had the BCG at 1 week old. People are screened for Tb but not every time they return from vacation. If you are confident that your LO will never be looked after /played with by a housemaid (either yours or your friends), from a country where Tb is prevalent or go to nursery/school etc here then there is probably very little risk. We did not have side effects at all, unlike the horrible fever we had after the rotavirus vaccine but a small scar appeared about 6 weeks later, which is normal. With an older child, they would need to undergo testing before being vaccinated. It is not required for visits to the ME because typically Tb is spread by prolonged contact. If we had a nanny/housemaid I would consider getting her tested for a few things from time to time just to be on the safe side. The BCG gives some protection against a few other random things, like leprosy which apparently still exists in this part of the world :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 17:36
To answer one poster's question: Our ped thought it would be on the 'safe' side to give my lo the vaccine as he claims that when living in DXB you come into contact with many people who come from parts of the world where the TB rate is quite high. This is my first child, and I don't want to expose him to harm. He's on schedule with his canadian vaccines, but this- I'm really not sure about. I don't like being a 'needle pusher' and only want to do what's absolutely necessary. I'm still not fully convinced to have it done yet...
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 08:51
our youngest had the shot when he was born here. But our oldest that was born in Canada still hasn't had it. Not sure if we will.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 08:48
I posted a whole load of links on this on another vaccination thread. Basically, the BCG isn't needed for travelling to Dubai, nor staying in Dubai and the UAE has one of the lowest TB rates in the world (according to WHO - something like 4.5 per 100,000, whereas the UK (where the BCG isn't compulsory in all areas) still has something like 14 per 100,000). Vaccination is a very personal decision and I think we all need to be realistic and weigh up the risks of either having it or not having it... and also to question if such-and-such is really necessary. I would be interested to hear exactly why your paed deems it necessary, given the verified figures. "Playing it safe" (when there is a very low risk anyway), imo, isn't a worthwhile enough reason to pump my kids (or myself) full of stuff. Neither of my two have had the BCG (but they have had all the UK recommended vaccinations on schedule - so not Rotavirus, CP, Hep A). Your info on vaccines on the other recent threads is very helpful but I'm not entirely convinced that the figures for incidences of TB here are accurate, we do live in the [i'>best[/i'> country in the world remember! TB can only be treated here in Government hospitals, they will not issue the correct required drugs to private hospitals whether the patient is an expat or not, they are therefore in control of the official figures. We get a lot of medical tourists here from countries where TB is still considered rife, lots of people in transit get taken ill and are directed to hospital where TB is then discovered. I have had far more exposure to TB here in a short space of time than in all my years in the NHS in a large inner city teaching hospital. And to people considering going home to get your babies vaccinated, find out where the vaccines are from first before you spend all that time and money... the vaccines here and at home may well have been manufactured in the same country! What vaccines your baby has is your choice so if you're seeing a private Paediatrician then the vaccines and the timings should be up for negiotation.
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Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 02:16
However I decided it's best for them to have BCG as recomended by my midwife in the UK, she told me India has a very high TB rate so it's best to give it to babies living in London!! A London-based friend told me they'd recently stopped giving it in London too. We're on the South Coast and they haven't done it here for ages. Strange world really. As for Dubai, I just think that the likelihood of my kids coming into close enough contact with a TB-infected tourist are incredibly slim. If we were going to a higher risk area, I would have them done.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 01:44
I posted a whole load of links on this on another vaccination thread. Basically, the BCG isn't needed for travelling to Dubai, nor staying in Dubai and the UAE has one of the lowest TB rates in the world (according to WHO - something like 4.5 per 100,000, whereas the UK (where the BCG isn't compulsory in all areas) still has something like 14 per 100,000). Vaccination is a very personal decision and I think we all need to be realistic and weigh up the risks of either having it or not having it... and also to question if such-and-such is really necessary. I would be interested to hear exactly why your paed deems it necessary, given the verified figures. "Playing it safe" (when there is a very low risk anyway), imo, isn't a worthwhile enough reason to pump my kids (or myself) full of stuff. Neither of my two have had the BCG (but they have had all the UK recommended vaccinations on schedule - so not Rotavirus, CP, Hep A). I just read your other thread regarding vaccines and it's very informative. I chose not to give my son the HepB vaccine and therefor waited until I travelled back to the UK so I could follow the Uk vaccination program. However I decided it's best for them to have BCG as recomended by my midwife in the UK, she told me India has a very high TB rate so it's best to give it to babies living in London!! I know resident of Dubai may have been screened for TB but the visitors haven't. But of course you are right it is a very personal decision and my 2 year old still hasn't had his MMR as I haven't found a place here to have them done seperately.
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Latest post on 04 July 2011 - 01:13
I posted a whole load of links on this on another vaccination thread. Basically, the BCG isn't needed for travelling to Dubai, nor staying in Dubai and the UAE has one of the lowest TB rates in the world (according to WHO - something like 4.5 per 100,000, whereas the UK (where the BCG isn't compulsory in all areas) still has something like 14 per 100,000). Vaccination is a very personal decision and I think we all need to be realistic and weigh up the risks of either having it or not having it... and also to question if such-and-such is really necessary. I would be interested to hear exactly why your paed deems it necessary, given the verified figures. "Playing it safe" (when there is a very low risk anyway), imo, isn't a worthwhile enough reason to pump my kids (or myself) full of stuff. Neither of my two have had the BCG (but they have had all the UK recommended vaccinations on schedule - so not Rotavirus, CP, Hep A).
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 23:52
I agree, I would like to give it to be safe. Like you said though, I am a little scared of the reaction as I heard they can be quite strong for some children. I may go back 'home' and have them give it in Canada. Mine were all vaccinated in the first 24 hours after they were born. I know my nephew who was also vaccinated in the UK had a mild fever afterwards but as they were still in hospital after the delivery there was nothing to worry about. I do know how it feels wanting to go "home" for the vaccines though as I did the same for my DS's 16 week vaccines (he was over a year old by the time he had them)!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 23:29
I agree, I would like to give it to be safe. Like you said though, I am a little scared of the reaction as I heard they can be quite strong for some children. I may go back 'home' and have them give it in Canada.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 23:27
I was suggested by my pediatrician @ City to give my LO the TB vaccine since we've moved to Dubai. This isn't typically given in Canada and don't know anyone who'se had it. Have you all given your children this vaccine? Did they have reactions? If so how bad? I have three children and they were all given the BCG vaccine. The first two I had in London and though they don't vaccinate all the children in the UK, I was told it's best to have it done as we were living in London. The 3rd I had here and they didn't even ask me, they just vaccinated my DS!! I'm also always worried about vaccines and their side effects but non of mine had any side effects. I would suggest you give it to your baby as TB is still common in some countries around here.
 
 

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