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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 10:17

Our landlord gave us 12 months to vacate as he intended to sell our apartment. however the 12 months is nearly up and he has not sold the property, nor have any prospective purchaser viewed it. It is fairly clear that notice was given simply so he can increase the rent to new tenants. Do we have any rights in this situation? I don't mean to sound harsh, and I sympathise with you having to look for a new place to live, but does it really matter if he is selling/ has sold the apartment? It is his apartment and he has given you 12 months notice to vacate it. If he subsequently chooses to let it again for a higher rent, surely that is within his right, as he OWNS the apartment and has not turfed you out at a moment's notice? You could always offer to pay a higher (market) rent to stay for another 12 months? Tenant's rights in Dubai seem to be much stronger than in other parts of the 'developed' world; in the UK, you only need to give 2 months notice (and no reason!) to evict tenants. What you choose to do with your property after the tenants have moved out is none of their business. For what it's worth, I am not a landlord in Dubai, I rent and have moved when my rental contract has expired without being renewed. I usually look around at the going rate for similar rentals three months before the end of the contract, and work out if it's more cost effective for me to negotiate to pay a higher rent with my current landlord or to move. usually, I have managed to come to an agreement with the landlord on the next year's rent that is acceptable both to LL and to us. LL here by law are not allowed to give you notice because they want to sell and then not sell The rental law stipulates this and most do it to increase the rents

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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 10:17

One of the main problems is that if you are given notice in the UK for example, the majority of the time you can just go rent another property at the same spec for the same price... But here you are looking at having to pay significantly more than your current rent, and not just 10k. All due to greedy landlords and agents. no you don't. You just look around.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 10:17

One of the main problems is that if you are given notice in the UK for example, the majority of the time you can just go rent another property at the same spec for the same price... But here you are looking at having to pay significantly more than your current rent, and not just 10k. All due to greedy landlords and agents. And each time you have to pay the agency fee again which is really unfair. In more developed markets, the Landlord pays the fee. dont rent through an agent then.

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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 10:16

One of the main problems is that if you are given notice in the UK for example, the majority of the time you can just go rent another property at the same spec for the same price... But here you are looking at having to pay significantly more than your current rent, and not just 10k. All due to greedy landlords and agents. And each time you have to pay the agency fee again which is really unfair. In more developed markets, the Landlord pays the fee.

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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 10:15

One of the main problems is that if you are given notice in the UK for example, the majority of the time you can just go rent another property at the same spec for the same price... But here you are looking at having to pay significantly more than your current rent, and not just 10k. All due to greedy landlords and agents.

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EW GURU

Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 10:09

I don't mean to sound harsh, and I sympathise with you having to look for a new place to live, but does it really matter if he is selling/ has sold the apartment? It is his apartment and he has given you 12 months notice to vacate it. If he subsequently chooses to let it again for a higher rent, surely that is within his right, as he OWNS the apartment and has not turfed you out at a moment's notice? You could always offer to pay a higher (market) rent to stay for another 12 months? Tenant's rights in Dubai seem to be much stronger than in other parts of the 'developed' world; in the UK, you only need to give 2 months notice (and no reason!) to evict tenants. What you choose to do with your property after the tenants have moved out is none of their business. Actually, I think the situation here in Dubai is quite different than in "other parts of the the 'developed' world" as here you're dealing with a market with a very high proportion of renters and many with limited market information. The frequent in and out of expats means we're at the mercy of the landlords. My understanding is part of what drove the market crash was pure speculation and greed on the part of landlords which drove prices higher and higher in a way that wasn't sustainable. And that's why the rules and regulations were put in place to help protect tenants from these types of practices. <em>edited by Meagle on 30/04/2013</em>

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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 09:57

Our landlord gave us 12 months to vacate as he intended to sell our apartment. however the 12 months is nearly up and he has not sold the property, nor have any prospective purchaser viewed it. It is fairly clear that notice was given simply so he can increase the rent to new tenants. Do we have any rights in this situation? I don't mean to sound harsh, and I sympathise with you having to look for a new place to live, but does it really matter if he is selling/ has sold the apartment? It is his apartment and he has given you 12 months notice to vacate it. If he subsequently chooses to let it again for a higher rent, surely that is within his right, as he OWNS the apartment and has not turfed you out at a moment's notice? You could always offer to pay a higher (market) rent to stay for another 12 months? Tenant's rights in Dubai seem to be much stronger than in other parts of the 'developed' world; in the UK, you only need to give 2 months notice (and no reason!) to evict tenants. What you choose to do with your property after the tenants have moved out is none of their business. For what it's worth, I am not a landlord in Dubai, I rent and have moved when my rental contract has expired without being renewed. I usually look around at the going rate for similar rentals three months before the end of the contract, and work out if it's more cost effective for me to negotiate to pay a higher rent with my current landlord or to move. usually, I have managed to come to an agreement with the landlord on the next year's rent that is acceptable both to LL and to us.

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 09:56

To be fair to the landlord (I'm not one), it is nearly impossible to sell a property with a tenant in nowadays, as the Rent Committee is doing a really good job to defend the tenant's right. I recommend you visit the rent committee and explain the situation and they will advise on your specific case. They have been extremely helpful on my own experience. Good luck!

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 09:56

Ours did the same, gave us 12 months notice is going to sell but we know he is going to re-let it at a higher rate....or so he thought.....there are some nice cranes going up in front of us and the building site should be in full swing when we move out in December. Karma.

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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 08:41

See the RERA website http://www.propertyworlddubai.com/rera-general-laws. He can't relet for 2 years if he's evicted you for family to move in - not sure if he planned to sell but doesn't. Would be worth calling RERA to check. I found them reasonably helpful when we had an issue. Good luck!

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Latest post on 30 April 2013 - 07:06

Our landlord gave us 12 months to vacate as he intended to sell our apartment. however the 12 months is nearly up and he has not sold the property, nor have any prospective purchaser viewed it. It is fairly clear that notice was given simply so he can increase the rent to new tenants. Do we have any rights in this situation? Funny, we are in the exact same situation. We got notice in writing in January that he wants to sell the villa and he wants us out in November. He told us a ridiculous asking price for the villa when we inquired about buying it ourselves. I'm certain he wants to put up the rent and has no intention of selling!

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