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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 22:06
Hello. Yes, I am back from hols :) Just try and think one step at a time and not too much into the future! Keep positive for tomorrow. :) Remember IVF plays havoc with the old emotions! xxx
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Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 20:21
Hey Hilsbils Sorry have been away but did pm you earlier....wow, it's tomorrow!! I have EVERYTHING crossed for you. The way you are feeling is normal and I went through exactly the same last time, no symptoms etc yet I did have them the time before so just shows you that there is no hard or fast rule. I also researched symptoms endlessssssly and really everyone is different and many people have no symptoms at all and some do! Please try to keep your spirits up. You really are at the last hurdle now and it is important to be positive. Remember that the progesterone plays havoc with your emotions and how you feel too. PLEASE let us know as soon as you know and I hope to meet you soon. Lots of love and luck and even more of the all important babydust! Praying for you xxx Confusion!!! You are back. I have been wondering about you and if you are ok etc. Holidays? I'm feeling lots of weird feelings and am quite a grumpy cow with Dh too. I think its because he is so totally anti-adoption which Ive always been keen on, even as a youngster. Sigh Will update when I know
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EW GURU
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 19:49
Sending you lots of positive thoughts for tmro hilsbils,
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 19:47
Hey Hilsbils Sorry have been away but did pm you earlier....wow, it's tomorrow!! I have EVERYTHING crossed for you. The way you are feeling is normal and I went through exactly the same last time, no symptoms etc yet I did have them the time before so just shows you that there is no hard or fast rule. I also researched symptoms endlessssssly and really everyone is different and many people have no symptoms at all and some do! Please try to keep your spirits up. You really are at the last hurdle now and it is important to be positive. Remember that the progesterone plays havoc with your emotions and how you feel too. PLEASE let us know as soon as you know and I hope to meet you soon. Lots of love and luck and even more of the all important babydust! Praying for you xxx
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 16:47
Have been following your story HB and am praying for a positive result. I am convinced how you feel is the most unreliable indicator in these early stages; there is always hope. When you have your little one in your arms and you look back - you'll be like "of course!" but the journey getting there is so hard. Sending love. A.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 16:37
Thank ladies! I was so excited about the first stages as they were the critical ones - responding to meds, producing eggs, extracting eggs, making real embryos etc - and was sure that those would be the hardest and if we could get that far then.... But when I woke up Sat morning feeling totally normal again it felt so sad. Will only do blood test late tomorrow (so Dh can come to apt) and maybe get a call tomorrow or Thurs morn. Ugh. Of course there is that small hope that I am wrong and I hope I am.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 14:35
Hilsbils, I didn't have any symptoms as such until after the 2ww. First thing I remember was metallic tasting in my mouth, but that was it really, nothing that I could pinpoint til after my test. Fingers crossed for tomorrow and news of some little Hillibillies.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 14:28
Oh, hilsbils, I feel for you so much. I swear, the 2ww after ivf is the most horrible wait and you super analyse everything. I had no symptoms at all and got lower back cramping like I did before period. I was convinced it was neg, I know it sounds rich coming from me, but I always thought, well I've got this far, embies made it to blast etc which is great news. I know probably not much comfort at the mo. I'm praying today goes fast for you and for a positive result tomorrow
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Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 13:21
Thanks so much. To be honest I am feeling very apprehensive because my great symptoms just disappeared and now I have my usual pms symptoms :( (spots, migraine etc) Until Friday last week my breasts had gone up a cup size, lots of tenderness, bloating and tiredness (all good) but then my breasts shrank back to normal and all those symptoms disappeared. I feel that I 'know' somehow that its not happened. Of course we wont know until tomorrow. Sighhhh.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 August 2012 - 12:31
Hi hilsbils, just wanted to wish you so much luck for your blood test this week. Xx
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 22:36
Yes Hilsbils, I used the wonderful Dr.Munira too, i was seeing her from September, with ivf in Feb, I've only just left her now to go to Dr.Elsa at 28 wks for the rest of my antenatal care. I actually shed a tear when I left her. My husband thinks I'm in love with her, she is just so amazing, calm, honest, straightforward etc. I will def be using her for number 2, wouldn't dream of going elsewhere. I met another of her patients and she said the same as me. Such a wonderful lady! What a long journey for you! I understand that she does specialise in tricky pregnancies although Elsa is the guru. Im glad you have given me hope for a successful result, or a second shot. She also made me delay before starting and didnt leave a stone unturned to get me "ready" in comparison with some of the fertility factories in town. She is so dignified and I have never seen anyone so mindful and unflustered. She never says a bad word, or speaks out of turn. But I dread her job when she has to console disappointed parents. We are moving to the UK in October and may have to explore other avenues if this doesnt work. Maybe 3 weeks in the Dubai sunshine with my favourite doctor will be on the books ! But no, lets hold thumbs that these blastocytes are happy and sticky. Even all of them would be welcomed!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 20:12
Yes Hilsbils, I used the wonderful Dr.Munira too, i was seeing her from September, with ivf in Feb, I've only just left her now to go to Dr.Elsa at 28 wks for the rest of my antenatal care. I actually shed a tear when I left her. My husband thinks I'm in love with her, she is just so amazing, calm, honest, straightforward etc. I will def be using her for number 2, wouldn't dream of going elsewhere. I met another of her patients and she said the same as me. Such a wonderful lady!
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 20:01
Hey hillsbils, That's fab news about the embryo's! Hmm, it's a tough choice, at day 5, we had 3 blasts and 2 morulas (spelling?) we literally made our choice when I was lying on the table for transfer. We decided as I was 28 we would transfer 2 blasts and I'm pregnant with one. We didn't freeze the others as they weren't excellent quality. Dr. M was happy to transfer 3 with me but because of my age she was more leaning towards 2 I think. I guess what you have to get your head around is whether you could cope ith the three! Hopefully all will become a bit clearer tomorrow when you find out the state of things. So much luck tomorrow and hope the 2ww goes quickly x Ah yes the 2 week wait.... and then the daily wait after that until we get over the critical stages (26 weeks?) I cant imagine ever relaxing fully again! Hope all is well today. Whew x edited by hilsbils on 14/08/2012 Great news HB, lol 2ww, once you get preggo, after 28 weeks, babe in arms, naughty toddler, then lippy teenager, you NEVER EVER fully relax again in your life.....[img'>http://upload.cdfreaks.com/seanbyrne/smiley_shamrock.gif[/img'>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 17:54
hilsbils ?I am glad to know transfer went well. Now stick embies stick! As Awayfromhome said, during 2ww I ate pineapples cores, not sure if it 100% true or not. Lots of prayers wont hurt too. You and other IVFers will be in my prayers and thoughts.
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Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 17:25
That's great news hilsbils, I'm praying that they're getting all sticky now! We had three blasts and 2 morulas, had two blasts put back and neither one of the other three made it to freezing, but we were lucky and one of the two stuck. I felt the same as you and was doubting and wondering why they hadn't developed, but the very fact they got to blasts is a very positive sign and your womb environment is better for them than the lab. The wait is horrible and I was the most emotional ever, I think I cried every day and went for blood test at Dubai mall convinced I wasn't pregnant as had no symptoms whatsoever so well dr.m called me, I didn't believe her. This is a very good sign that you have got this far though. Watching the embryos go in is very cool isn't it, the progesterone not so, but a necessary. I felt so so bloated aswell, and had to keep myself occupied. You've probably looked this up, but I ate pineapple (specifically the core!) and brazil nuts to help the sticking. Good luck hilsbils, I'm keeping everything crossed for you xx Aha ! So you also used Munira? She is lovely and professional. I feel she never gave me false hope. Really excited and nervous. I think the wait to week 12 must be hectic too.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 16:49
That's great news hilsbils, I'm praying that they're getting all sticky now! We had three blasts and 2 morulas, had two blasts put back and neither one of the other three made it to freezing, but we were lucky and one of the two stuck. I felt the same as you and was doubting and wondering why they hadn't developed, but the very fact they got to blasts is a very positive sign and your womb environment is better for them than the lab. The wait is horrible and I was the most emotional ever, I think I cried every day and went for blood test at Dubai mall convinced I wasn't pregnant as had no symptoms whatsoever so well dr.m called me, I didn't believe her. This is a very good sign that you have got this far though. Watching the embryos go in is very cool isn't it, the progesterone not so, but a necessary. I felt so so bloated aswell, and had to keep myself occupied. You've probably looked this up, but I ate pineapple (specifically the core!) and brazil nuts to help the sticking. Good luck hilsbils, I'm keeping everything crossed for you xx
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 15:47
Thanks for asking. This few days has been the most intense, most difficult. We arrived on Tuesday to find 5 embryos and we chose to implant 3 and freeze the rest. I was dead excited and you also get to watch them take the embryos out and implant on a large screen so felt very much part of it all. But the next day heard that the 2 remaining blastyocysts had stopped developing and couldnt be frozen, so I started to doubt the ones implanted now - why would they survive etc? Got very emotional yesterday and yelled at Dh for other random things like the dishwasher liquid he uses (I hate the non-envrio products and he is too ocd to use organic cleaners) But today am more ambivalent. We get given these 2 x daily pessaries of progestrone to use and have been using them for a week now and they get your body as receptive as possible and mimic pregnancy symptoms (to thicken the womb as much as possible) and I feel so heavy, sore, grumpy and have a rash on my face! Not even pregnant yet and its a total rollercoaster. We are having our blood test next Wednesday - 13 days from the retrieval date. Ill keep you all updated
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 August 2012 - 11:20
Hi hilsbils, I hope you don't mind me asking, but how did you get on when you had your transfer? X
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Latest post on 14 August 2012 - 07:04
Hey hillsbils, That's fab news about the embryo's! Hmm, it's a tough choice, at day 5, we had 3 blasts and 2 morulas (spelling?) we literally made our choice when I was lying on the table for transfer. We decided as I was 28 we would transfer 2 blasts and I'm pregnant with one. We didn't freeze the others as they weren't excellent quality. Dr. M was happy to transfer 3 with me but because of my age she was more leaning towards 2 I think. I guess what you have to get your head around is whether you could cope ith the three! Hopefully all will become a bit clearer tomorrow when you find out the state of things. So much luck tomorrow and hope the 2ww goes quickly x Ah yes the 2 week wait.... and then the daily wait after that until we get over the critical stages (26 weeks?) I cant imagine ever relaxing fully again! Hope all is well today. Whew x <em>edited by hilsbils on 14/08/2012</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 August 2012 - 01:44
Hey hillsbils, That's fab news about the embryo's! Hmm, it's a tough choice, at day 5, we had 3 blasts and 2 morulas (spelling?) we literally made our choice when I was lying on the table for transfer. We decided as I was 28 we would transfer 2 blasts and I'm pregnant with one. We didn't freeze the others as they weren't excellent quality. Dr. M was happy to transfer 3 with me but because of my age she was more leaning towards 2 I think. I guess what you have to get your head around is whether you could cope ith the three! Hopefully all will become a bit clearer tomorrow when you find out the state of things. So much luck tomorrow and hope the 2ww goes quickly x
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 22:06
Thanks so much ladies. That link was excellent. Yes, I think doc was surprised I produced 6 eggs and as many as 5 have reached 6-8 divided embryo stage by day 3. I will see what has survived and progressed tomorrow. Fingers and toes crossed. I had an AMH of only 0.35 which is very low so I was predominantly worried about egg production. How do you know what grade your embryos are? My eggs were only moderate quality, some below average :-( I have been googling blastocytes etc. Thanks for the hope flower33 - seems your IVf was successful both times. Alismum - IVF 3 times? Wow. We are moving to the UK in October and we researched that IVF costs around 6-8k sterling and success rates in Dubai seem to be the same. We would need to take out a mortgage to pay for 3 cycles! But Ill let you all know tomorrow how I get on.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 21:45
Good luck hisbils! Its such a hard decision to make, but If i was in your situation with only 4 i would transfer all, as thawing process does not guarantee that i will have them successfully thawed later. What does your dr say? The Link Alismum gave is so full of success stories with multiples! 1st IVF ET 2dt/3embies (A grade), vanishing twin at 10weeks, 1 baby 2nd IVF ET 2dt/3embies (A grade) 1 baby The clinic i went does not transfer more than 3 embryos.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 18:05
Wow thanks for that info. I was worried that I wouldnt respond to the meds, and we got 6 eggs, and so far each stage is working well so final step is embryo transfer. But i just turned 41 (eek - how did that happen?) and so risks are higher all around. Im really glad we chose Sharjah so we have the freezing option as I dont relish the injections and meds again, and it costs a fortune. But am worried that 2 will not 'take'. I will definitely ask lots of questions when I go in tomorrow and of course its based on how many embryos are able to transfer. So interesting to read that other forum where many women had 1 embryo fail, and yet others with two took. Some of the women have had 6 cycles of IVF, although I seem to remember one of our own EW has had 8 cycles of IVF. I want to get excited but it will be many months yet before we know we are safely pregnant. Its an emotional rollercoaster!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 17:56
I agree with Kermi and really, your Doctor should guide you to a decision. If it was me and there were three embyos, I would probably put all three in but if there were four, I'd transfer two now and put two on ice. I think only freezing one would perhaps be a waste but that's only my opinion. From personal experience, I've not been as lucky as you! Twice, I only had one embie to transfer (first time it was a grade 1, 3 day and second time it was a grade 3, 5 day blast) and both times failed to stick. This last time, I had two to transfer and one stuck! The link Alismum has given is interesting reading! Whatever you decide, wishing you lots and lots of luck Hilsbils - hope it works xx
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 17:14
I know you probably have done a bit of googling yourself ;) , but found these ladies chatting about the same thing [url=http://www.whattoexpect.com/forums/multiples-and-twins/archives/ivf-ladies-how-many-eggs-did-you-insert-and-how-many-took.html'>link[/url'> Good luck with whatever you decide HB, 3 sounds like a handful, but you won't need to go through IVF again :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 17:01
Best to discuss the benefits and risks of implanting more than 2 embryos with your doctor. The probability of having multiples decreases with the age of the woman. The decision how many embryos to implant is also depending on the stage of the embryos, so best to have a talk with your doctor. He should be able to show you some age related statistics as well. Found this online for you: http://alturl.com/hsshj All the best!
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Latest post on 13 August 2012 - 14:21
Im going to fetch my embryos from the cold lab tomorrow! It seems we have 3, possibly 4, which are dividing. The question I am asking ladies who have had IVF is how many have you implanted? Do 3 implanted embryos always result in triplets? We are luckily using Sharjah where freezing embryos is legal so our aim is to freeze a few incase this doesnt work, or with luck, we want more kids later on. But am afraid to implant more than 2. As much as I would love to have kids, I am not sure how we would cope as we are moving country soon where maids. nannies and even day-care are out of our budget, and I have no support system in place. Any comparable experiences would be appreciated edited by hilsbils on 13/08/2012 <em>edited by hilsbils on 13/08/2012</em>
 
 

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