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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 14:32

I went for my son's vaccination and the doctor at the govtt. clinic declared him clinically obese :( he'll be turning 6 months in next 5 days and weighs 10.3 kg. so he is a large and big baby. (EBF) my dh went into fitness mode and told me to control my diet aggressively. i have to explain patiently that even if i start dieting my body will utilise stored fat and will go into breastmilk. then we went to his paediatrician and he said babies are not considered obese till the age of 2. although he did asked me to stop feeding him in the night.
ds used to sleep like an angel but from past month he is waking up 4-5 at night and sometimes 7-8. i thought its because of his gums swelling. now he has stopped sleeping in his bed, only sleeping there for 2-3 hrs. no amount of patting,shushing,lullabies or soft spoken words console him. if we do not pick him up after few mintues it turns into a full screaming!! he only goes back to sleep if i nurse him.i tried no cry sleep solution before and this was discussed few days back when i was introduced to the idea of controlled comforting. i feel following AP has backfired on me as does not play even with his dad if i am not visible. during daytime he just keeps on napping for 30 min every 2-3 hrs. how do i handle stopping his night feed when i have followed feed on demand so far. please share your thoughts. i am not that tired but i really want him to out in a routine now. i will be starting his solids next week. will that help? doctor says keep on giving water at night instead of milk to quench his thirst. what else i can do? i think i am "in" for next few weeks settling him into a routine for night :(

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 11:44
Hi! As a warning to all moms and from personal experience, I would like to say that please don't take the words of doctors and nurses at the government clinics seriously! People may disagree, but I have always been given wrong advice there about breastfeeding, teething and starting solids. My baby is what you may call constitutionally small and I'm always made to worry about his statistics when I go there for his vaccinations, based on their formula-fed charts. After being scared at his six month check up, I went to his paed who told me everything was fine based on my baby's birth weight. More recently, when I went for the 12 month appointment, I told them he was breastfed and instead of being encouraging, they said I should get him assessed because I'm "thin"!!
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 15 October 2012 - 22:59
thank you so much ladies!! i have finally reached to some conclusions. let him be chubby. after my mom went back he was so unbearable for some time. screaming and crying all the time, not leaving my arms. but slowly and gradually i have made him a happy baby who giggles at everybody. so i'll follow his cue. might be he'll be benefited from starting solids ( from this weekend) otherwise let him have the feed. somedays he sleeps through whole night then there are nights with 5-6 wakenings. i have noticed that if he is sleeping with me he wakes up more often then sleeping in his cot. (offcourse we like to snuggle to him as he does not let me snuggle anytime, so mostly after 3 am i put him besides me) then there are days when his gums are itching too much, those days he screams and its difficult to put him to bed. but even on those days he goes to sleep by max 11 pm . afterall he also needs his beauty sleep. apart from the weight i do get lot of comments that your baby is so responsive, he is so happy,jolly,etc.... there is one baby girl in our building same age as my son,20 days younger. she comes down daily to the play area with her maid but she is so docile,not responsive just stares. so better my screaming and giggling son. whether good or bad comments don't bother me now as i am used to hearing and frankly don't give worth to what some strangers are saying. just smile and accept. its my dh and i have to work hard with him!! uff i have 2 babies :) hopefully he is better once his solids start (poor guy just keep on staring at me eating and try to make chewing motions) thank you all for the support and to keep the hopes up. if babies are so attuned to all our requirements they wouldn't be baby now :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 October 2012 - 21:11
I had to check ds records to show you that you are not alone! Ds was 10.1kg at 6 months EBF nd on demand. A lot of people commented how chubby he was, including dr advising to cut night feeds. Ignored all the comments. 13 kg at 12 months, as soon he started walking all the chubbiness disappeared. Let him be healthy nd chubby as long as you can. Once he starts walking, starting solids or if they get bit sick they lose all the weight quickly. Personally I love co sleeping as it doesnt require waking up completely and have a good sleep with a fed baby. I stopped night feedings when he turned 1, dh gave him water, after few days he didnt care to wake up for water and slept through the night. You are doing a great job and very lucky to have a good supply if milk with a baby love to drink! My other 2 didnt bfeed often (however i tried) and average weight.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 15 October 2012 - 20:29
I'm in such a hurry to answer your post, I haven't actually read those below. My advice if I can put it in the most opinionated way I can ( and I do normally try to avoid being opinionated) is GET ANOTHER DOCTOR. It is absolutely not possible for an EBF baby to be obese. If you're on facebook try Breastfeeding Q & E Dubai UAE or UAE natural family living network for some advice from other mums, but really, truely, you have done the best thing for your baby to date. It's now your decision on things like whether to stop night feeds/feed on demand etc. But rest assured, your baby is a healthy, robust, lucky lucky baby.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 October 2012 - 19:38
Hi angel joy, as everyone said before do not worry! as long as he is EBF he CAN NOT be obese. I think we all had our fair share of "compliments" or right out rude comments from certain health "professionals" My little guy is/ was on the heavier side and I never blinked an eye when they commented on is weight/ look. I know it runs in the family (both my Dad and and husband were and are big, tall guys) However it is worth considering having the little guy get as much exercise as possible. Mine loved swimming and his Jumperoo was awesome both for to keeping him entertained and it also keep him moving. :-) Sleeping was a BIG issue for us too but as the ones before me said:It will get better! I promise! I gradually reduced night feeds once he started solids at 6 month and by 8 month it was a 30-50ml "last resort" BM from bottle only! but all this gradually, not all at once. Teething/ illness can upset it all. I did notice though that soon he realized it was just me or DH and no food He went back to sleep after a bit of susshhing, back rubbing, etc. He will sleep through one day and than you can start getting ready for more teething and terrible twos. Now that cheered you up, isn't it? :-D
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 15 October 2012 - 13:42
thanks sandy :) i goto Safa clinic too. last time a doctor there told me " so laboured breathing, not good,no vaccines,unwell" exactly those words. i got worried but then another doctor checked up and said he is completely fine! and they gave him vaccines. for the weight issues i have to put my dh's mind to rest. i remember during pregnancy, one whole time he surfed on internet, he read that i should sleep on my left side only as there are less chances of miscariage, baby grows nicely. for whole one night he was awake and didn't let me turn over. i was completely sore, crying by the morning and slept on the recliner.now he has taken doctor's advice to heart about not feeding him in the night. thankfully ds slept through whole night yesterday but if my dh said anything today i am handing ds over to him, office or no office! ds is very difficult to manage and that will shut his mouth :D i have started his water since past 3 days but so far he massages his gums with the cup, manages to take a sip or 2 . if i'll give him at night he'll wake up and start massaging :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 October 2012 - 10:13
Awww bless, sorry to hear you're having a hard time, Angel Joy. I agree with everything else the others have said below and just wanted to add that you should take what the government clinic nurses say with a pinch of salt sometimes. After having been to the Safa clinic for immunisations for the past year or so with the second I can honestly say that I only go there due to the fact the immunisations are free. The nurses there are rude, condescending and have no tact or bedside manner. If it weren't for the fact that I go there with my second they would have sent me into a panicked frenzy on more than one occasion. DS2 was a 4kg baby at birth with a long (oval) head. For the first 6 months of his life he was always off the chart for height, weight and head circumference. He was EBF as well and growing well but they told me outright that he was fat. They also told me he had a big head and that was cause for concern but never went into detail why. They insisted I see their doctor but could never get an appointment or it would always be cancelled. On follow up appointments they would berate me for not bringing him to the doctor and then finally told me that maybe having a big head was hereditary in our family as mine looked big too! After consultation with another doctor to put my mind at ease as Google made me worry a little, it turned out to be nothing. These growth charts they measure our babies by are just averages. They are a way to tell if our baby is growing averagely and that's all. Don't put too much weight on them as things like ethnicity etc are not always taken into account. Also, if he's EBF then feeding him water at night in a bottle may be quite difficult for you. I know neither of mine took a bottle at all so all the advice I had about feeding them water in the middle of the night fell on deaf ears. I only started to give them water out of cups after I started solids. As for the sleeping, hang in there, it will get better. I can't advise on how or when as I've had my fair share of problems in this area, but it does get better!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 19:04
"Normal" does not just depend on his weight. It should be measured on a group of factors, such as: what was his birth weight, length and head circumference and what they are now. Has his growth been consistent? What is the stature of the baby's parents? It is really irresponsible and insensitive of the dr to have just drawn this conclusion without a proper evaluation. agree entirely (and with everything else KC) said, what was his birth weight, has he always been big, how tall is he....? He is at the top of the chart for weight, but that in itself doesn't make him obese, changing your diet won't make a difference and he will probably slim down once he is moving. One thing yo could try in respect to cutting down the night feedings is to only offer one side and to gradulally limit how long he feeds for each time. In conjunction with trying to put him down awake. <em>edited by kiwispiers on 14/10/2012</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 17:37
thanks kittycat and anondubai...that's what i say let him start walking then he'll loose weight. its been in the tendency of babies at my side...chubby and by 2 years of age all loose fat and become so slim. i say to him be happy with your chubby bubby :) offcourse sometimes we are offended as yesterday we went to just kidding and the staff there commented he looks like a sausage! i told her watch your language Thank you! my main concern is how to cut down his night feedings which he has started recently. we have been following a routine but he still does not comforts himself be it day or night. i am trying patiently.and as for water 30 ml? ok i got it.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 16:31
"Normal" does not just depend on his weight. It should be measured on a group of factors, such as: what was his birth weight, length and head circumference and what they are now. Has his growth been consistent? What is the stature of the baby's parents? It is really irresponsible and insensitive of the dr to have just drawn this conclusion without a proper evaluation. Many babies go through a chunky phase, but it all evens out eventually. Especially starting solids, he may well lose a bit of weight. You should not be restricting his breast feeds. If he is this unsettled, clearly he is still hungry. A 6 month old baby should not be on a diet, especially since his only source of food is breast milk - just what nature intended! Obviously do not allow him to comfort feed, but you certainly should feed him if he is hungry. As for water, at his age, he should only be having sips of water - like up to 30 ml, not bottles in place of breast milk. There is plenty of water in breast milk already. Drinking too much water is also bad for a baby, it interferes with absorption of nutrients from milk, makes the baby feel full but uncomfortable. As for your husband, telling you to aggressively control your diet is just really ridiculous! His intentions may be good, but what you eat is not really going to affect the quality of your milk, maybe the the acidity or gas producing foods will affect it on that level, but not the calorie value. Continue as you were, breast feeding on demand, start solids and take it from there. If you are really concerned, consult another pediatrician. Calm down, he won't be chubby forever, once he is eating solids and moving around - crawling and walking, he will burn it all off! Honestly, a happy, content, chubby baby is a far better option than a slim, cranky baby that feels deprived.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 15:54
Did the doctor or nurse tell you this?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 15:21
Get a second opinion , and maybe take him to a nutritionist for assessment
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 14:52
oh that was in the government clinic for vaccinations. his doc didn't said him obese
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 14:38
In your place I would go to another doctor and get a second opinion.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 14 October 2012 - 14:38
My advice to you would be to change your doctor. A child cannot be declared clinically obese on nothing but breat milk. You son is big, so what? lots of kids go through a "fat" stage between 6 months and 1 year. <em>edited by derien on 14/10/2012</em>
 
 

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