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Q's for those who dreamfeed...

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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 10:24

Hi ladies,
So about a week or so ago I decided to try dreamfeeding my 7 week old to see whether he would still wake for his next feed after going down for the night (usually does a 5/6 hour stretch after final feed around 7/8pm). First night I tried with the breast but there was no waking him and I couldn't shove it in. I tried it with expressed milk in a bottle for a few more nights and he eventually took it but then still woke around 5/6 hours after his previous feed so it wasn't making a difference and I found I was just getting more tired by staying up to do the dfeed. So I abandoned the idea. However in the past few days I was thinking perhaps I didn't give it a long enough go...so I tried again last night, this time not picking him but just trying to plop the bottle into his mouth in his basket but there was no waking him again, it actually got in the mouth once but no suckling. So I just gave up and went back to sleep. So here are my q's:
1. when you started dreamfeeding how long did it take before you noticed any difference in the waking patterns?
2. did you wake your LO to dreamfeed or keep them asleep and did you feed directly into the cot or in your arms? 3. Did you burp your LO afterwards? Reason I ask is that most people say they are so relaxed they don't need it but my DS seems to get wind at night more, even after I've burped him after a feed he still wakes himself up with loud grunts later on sometimes so I'm a bit worried to leave him without burping...
thanks for your input in advance! I know I already had another similar thread about a week ago but would appreciate thoughts from those who successfully DF! x

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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 16:56
thanks Hello Kitty :) Yes I do think I'm lucky and should just go with the flow...it's easy to question yourself though when you read books or pay too much attention to what you think you "should" be doing. :) The Baby Whisperer says you shouldnt let them nap for more than 1 and a half to 2 hours during the day...well I finally got him down for a nap at 11 this morning and he's still asleep now...no way am I waking him up! I got a good few good tips from the Baby Whisperer, but also my biggest hang-ups - namely that DD was a "snacker" and that she wasn't feeding properly because of it. Of course, I took it to heart, because it was written in a book and it took my health visitor to say "just take a moment to look at your baby [stares at Miss Michelin with her 3 elbows and hidden knees'>... she's quite obviously getting enough milk!". I can't have read as far as the nap bit because DD slept so much, my NCT buddies wondered if she ever opened her eyes and had I done so, I'm sure I would have worried about that too. My son has always had 2-3 hour naps (even now, at 2 years old, he has one for 2-3 hours) and it has never affected his night-time sleep, unless he sleeps in late afternoon, which basically I never let happen. Read the books/ forums, take from them any top tips that fit in with you and your baby and forget the rest. There's no right or wrong way to do things, so the idea of conforming to one single person's ideal (who doesn't even know you and your baby exist) is just a bit weird imo!
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Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 13:53
thanks Hello Kitty :) Yes I do think I'm lucky and should just go with the flow...it's easy to question yourself though when you read books or pay too much attention to what you think you "should" be doing. :) The Baby Whisperer says you shouldnt let them nap for more than 1 and a half to 2 hours during the day...well I finally got him down for a nap at 11 this morning and he's still asleep now...no way am I waking him up!
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Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 13:38
thanks nutty and julz. The past 2 nights I haven't done it and he went down to sleep about 8pm. One night woke at 2am, feed and change back to sleep by 3am, slept until 7am. Last night he woke himself up with a big poo LOL at 1am, fed and change and then slept until 5am, then back to bed until 7.30am. Still so unsure if I should perservere with trying to dreamfeed or not as he does quite well in that first stretch on his own....hmmm!! I think you've answered your own question! Don't knock it, don't worry about it and enjoy! As time goes on, your son will push his feeds back, so probably in the next couple of months, he'll do his 1h-2h feed at 3h-4h and will drop his 5h30 feed. I would just like to point out though that I am officially jealous. Your son is 7 weeks old - mine was following the pattern you described (oh, but yes, with another feed at 3h!) at ELEVEN MONTHS. [b'>That's[/b'> why I keep saying "don't question it, just enjoy!" ;)
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Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 11:38
thanks nutty and julz. The past 2 nights I haven't done it and he went down to sleep about 8pm. One night woke at 2am, feed and change back to sleep by 3am, slept until 7am. Last night he woke himself up with a big poo LOL at 1am, fed and change and then slept until 5am, then back to bed until 7.30am. Still so unsure if I should perservere with trying to dreamfeed or not as he does quite well in that first stretch on his own....hmmm!!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 July 2011 - 11:12
1. when you started dreamfeeding how long did it take before you noticed any difference in the waking patterns? We started DF at 6 weeks and used this as a good timeto introduce the bottle (expressed BM)we would put a few drops on her lips and wait for her to respond if not then we would gently try to rouse her enough to feed.We stuck with it till 7months old. Eventually she would open her mouth the moment we lifted her and would get angry(with her eyes closed) if we didnt get the milk in fast enough! 2. did you wake your LO to dreamfeed or keep them asleep and did you feed directly into the cot or in your arms? We lifted her out of her cot and sat on the bed in her room in the pitch dark at first but i do have a picture of her on holiday in a bar getting her DF then going straight back to sleep in her pram LOL!!! 3. Did you burp your LO afterwards? I held her upright and gently rubbed her back until she passed her wind even if this meant she woke up a bit as if i didnt then she would wake up or be sick. If the baby is gassy, be careful what your diet is. Garlic, chocolate, brocolli, fizzy drinks can give a breastfed baby gas. We did 2/4/6pm feeds then DF at 11pm 2am 5am and then again at 7am At 8 weeks 2/4/6pm DF 11pm 5am then BF at 7am at 10 weeks 2/4/6pm df 11pm then bfat 7am (2/4/6pm we cluster fed) <em>edited by nutty on 03/07/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 18:36
i waited till she woke up, and it was always around the same time, when she'd wake i would take her in my arms, and bring her in my bed (i still do she is 7 months now) and no i never burped her, i found if i woke her up it was harder for her to go back to sleep. when she dream fed was only awake enough just to eat and in the beginning the dream feeds were longer sometime like up to 45 min, now they are like 10 min, at 5-6 1/2 months she slept in her crib, and i would feed her on the couch in the front room and return her to her bed, now that she is teething i bring her to my bed cause she gets so irritated, and she won't sleep in her crib for the time being, (well actually last night she did till like 4 am... that was great,) tething time is soo hard!
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 18:20
thanks kiwi....maybe I should wait until then to introduce it. Yawn....he's resisting his naps today, gosh I hope he still sleeps ok tonight...got DH in there shshing at the moment!
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 16:46
At around 4 months his sleep patterns will change and you might find a dream feed beneficial then if he starts to wake earlier.
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 16:41
and he is demand fed, but quite structured and doing every 3 hours, sometimes more during the day naturally anyway...
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 16:39
thanks for the replies ladies...still not sure whether I should perservere or not. Last night I did try with the bottle but as I said he was so deeply asleep that even when he did get it in his mouth he did not take a suck and at that point I didn't want to wake him up as he's not always that easy to get back to sleep these days! Maybe as kiwis has said he's too deeply asleep at that time of night to take the DF...At this point his last feed is between 7 and 8pm then he's up in about 5-6 hours from there then again in a few hours before his actual morning wake up...maybe I should just leave him be for a few more weeks and see what he does naturally. Earlier on when he was littler he actually did a few nights of 7-8 hour stretches but maybe that was just pot luck!!
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 13:40
We started at 7 months but like I said on another thread, I'm not sure if it would have been better for us if we'd started around four months as maybe then he would have started dropping night feeds after this by himself. We didn't wake him to feed him, just popped the bottle in his mouth (I'd tried BF him before when he was smaller and that just didn't work at all). He sometimes woke up, sometimes didn't, but usually took most - if not all - of it. We didn't burp him afterwards but then again, he was a bit bigger than your LO is so maybe a more effective burper by himself!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 11:46
Hi SG - I started the DF (and scheduled feeding) when DS was about 8 weeks old. Prior to that he was demand fed. To summarise: - I did not wake him, but sometimes he would wake up before the DF or when I lifted him from the cot. - I BF in a chair. - He would always take the breast whether he was asleep or not, I just tilted his head back and brushed his bottom lip against me. - I never really burped him, but just held him against me in an upright position and rubbed his back. It was my favourite moment in the day actually. - DS would take the DF and then wake between 4-5 am for his next feed (and has done so for 6 months). It just means that I only have to get up once. I have just dropped the DF as I'm tired of going to bed on my own with DH sound asleep! DS is now either demanding a feed between 11pm and 1.30am and then another early morning feed. Today that was at 6.15am, so we are making some progress!
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 11:03
hi SG. my DD was similar at that age - 5/6 hour stretches at night. around that age she was going down for the night around 10pm. She too would not dreamfeed. I never liked waking a sleeping baby...so DF didnt work for us at that age all of a sudden when we hit 3 months, she needed to start sleeping at 7/7:30. there had always been a "nap" around that time but she just stopped waking from it around 12 weeks. as she had fed around 7pm, i felt the need to introduce a dreamfeed in hopes of extending that 6 hours stretch (eg, no DF meant she would likely wake at 1 or 2am). So now, she's down around 7/7:30, DF (formula) at 11pm and sleeps through until about 5:30...well, 6am the past few days. She's 16 weeks and we switched from EBF to formula around 12 weeks. if your DS isnt taking the DF, he may just adjust naturally as he gets older. but i imagine BFing the DF to be much more difficult and may rouse your baby. I should also add she doesnt generally burp after the DF. i try to give her a chance for a few moments on the chair (she's in my arms for her DF, asleep) and in the few paces from the chair to the cot. but if it doesnt come out, i dont force it. my plan is to keep the df until she doubles her birthweight, or is sleeping until 6:30/7. then a few days at a time try to cut it back until its gone. with the stage that we're at now, she should be just around the time rice cereal and solids make an entrance. HTH :)
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 10:47
Sg I think it's success depends or what stage Of sleep your baby is in. Yours sound like mine in having a naturally very heavy sleep during that time of night. If you watch carefully you might be able to pick when your baby is in a lighter part of the cycle and have more success. Lemondrops is probably the person to ask :) From a scientific point of view, your baby will have an empty tummy 4 hours after a dreamfeed anyway.
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Latest post on 01 July 2011 - 10:25
Also...what age did you start dreamfeeding, if not from birth?
 
 

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