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What is stealing?

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:07

You give a PRO your passports to do visas. She doesn't do it. You ask for passports back. She doesn't give them back. You ask numerous times. She won't respond to calls, texts, emails. Is this stealing?

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 13:10
PRO was roccommended by a colleague of DH. She woked for his previous employer. We will definitely file a complaint!
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:42
How did you find this PRO? Does she advertise? Go to the Dept of Economic Development and file a complaint. If she is not licensed she will be fined. Do you have her car reg no? Do you have a receipt for the pp's?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 10:54
Clairehdp - she says they're 'being processed'. We doubt this is true as you usually get a text from the Ministry to notify you they're in the system. I think they have been lost, but why wouldn't she say? The worse that could happen is she gets charged for replacement. By not telling us we are incurring more costs through overstay fines, will still have to replace the passports and getting really teed off! AmyAus82 - An arrangement was made for her to meet us and return pasports and all documents but she didn't turn up. Are you legally trained? This is what I don't understand. When does it become stealing, or if it doesn't, what is it? We've been told we need to get a court order asking her to return them. If she doesn't, would this become stealing then? Would she be in trouble for contempt of court? What happens then? Sorry for so many questions, it's just so frustrating. We have really tried many forms of contact, even getting an HR in another company she is working for to contact her (she answers those call!)
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 13:05
If she works or herself let us know her details so we can all avoid taking her on!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 13:03
The police have been informed. This has been going on for too long. The police said she hadn't stolen them, therefore we can't get a report to give to the embassy to cancel passports. Catch 22! We're tearing our hair out. That's why I was wondering what people's opinion on the 'stolen' situation was. HereWeGo - she works for herself. So if the police have spoken to her where on earth does she say they are? I'd get onto the police again. What would happen if there was an emergency and you needed to fly to your home country - you wouldn't be able to .....nightmare
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 13:02
Wait for her at her place of work and have a chat? Threaten to go public maybe if the police won't help.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 13:01
This is worrisome in that case. Does she have an office you could go to, to look for her? Otherwise the police will have to take some action and file a report. Why did the police claim she didn't steal them? Did they manage to call her? Since you handed them over willingly maybe they would consider fraud instead of stealing?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:54
The police have been informed. This has been going on for too long. The police said she hadn't stolen them, therefore we can't get a report to give to the embassy to cancel passports. Catch 22! We're tearing our hair out. That's why I was wondering what people's opinion on the 'stolen' situation was. HereWeGo - she works for herself.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:53
How long has she had them? I suspect she has lost them and doesn't dare say anything. If she has had them for more than a few days I would ring her and tell her you are coming to her office immediately to collect them. If she makes an excuse saying she won't be there, tell her to leave them with her boss (she won't dare blame her boss for suddenly losing them!) and if she tries to make a different excuse then I would tell her that you are going to report them lost at the police station. If you can't get hold of her then it is time to ring her boss. No need to get her in trouble, just say you haven't been able to contact her and need your passport back immediately for something. But I really wouldn't leave it for long in case she has done something with them.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:50
Ask her boss about it.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:47
maybe she's misplaced them
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:46
It sounds more like incompetency however ...... If you can't get them back I would send her a note informing her that if you don't receive them back by midday tomorrow that you will have no option but to go to the police. Get them back and do the process yourself it's easy I do all our visa stuff and at least you have your passports yourself. I hope she is just incompetent and not a villian. Let us know how you get on. <em>edited by Clairehdp on 25/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:43
Text/send a message saying if she does not return passorts by xyz.... you are informing the Police. That should get a response or if it doesn't then you really do need to inform the Police. :\:
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:43
How long have you been asking for them back?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:40
She won't respond. When DH finally managed to make a time to meet, she didn't show up. Guinness - all jokes aside, I have even wondered something along those lines. <em>edited by SarahF on 25/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:12
have you spoken to hr?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:12
why dont you go and ask for them back personally.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:10
Depends if she has already sold them on to Chechen mafia or not ...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 12:09
Stealing? No. Rude? Definitely yes!
 
 

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