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Latest post on 19 June 2011 - 17:32

Have you looked at the Kellymom page on breast refusal? Does anything ring familiar? http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/baby/back-to-breast.html Cranio-sacral therapy can help some babies with this kind of feeding problem - perhaps this is something you could discuss with your LC. I would really encourage you to go back (make sure your LC is board-certified), as some breastfeeding problems just can't be solved with one consult, and she will have other ideas to try if certain things don't work. Finally, you might find this page encouraging. It has stories of babies who just didn't get it at first, but DID get there eventually. "The things these babies' mothers had in common were tears, determination, plenty of skin contact with their babies, and help from a knowledgeable breastfeeding specialist. Each pair followed a different path to breastfeeding. Some babies caught on quickly, some needed long and frustrating weeks. But all these babies went on to enjoy breastfeeding... And all their mothers say it was worth the wait." http://www.normalfed.com/Help/babyget.html *Hugs* and hang in there. You're doing a brilliant job, and I'm sorry it's so hard right now. xx

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You said that your LC told you, you had plenty of milk. That got me wondering that maybe the milk flow is too strong for her. We sometimes had issues with that in the beginning whenever I felt slightly engorged. Maybe she is crying because the milk flow is too strong or too fast? Trying out different nursing positions might help. I found this site very helpful for everything related to breastfeeding: http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/baby/fussy-while-nursing.html http://www.kellymom.com/

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Great! Try the SNS on its own and, if you need to in combo with a nipple shield. After the first week or so DS was always pretty keen to feed from the breast, we did have 2 weeks of breast rejection after he had his first bottle of EBM in ages at 4 months old but managed to turn him back into a boob man. It is definitely not too late for you, it might help setting a goal, ie "I'll take away all bottles and use the sns and possibly also the shields for 2 more weeks and then reassess whether I can switch to just shields for some feeds" etc. Its hard to see progress on a day by day level.

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*Hugs* sorry to hear things aren't going well. Have you tried Biological Nurturing positions to maximise both latch and feeding reflexes? I would definitely suggest a thorough exam by a board-certified LC to check for tongue-tie and anything else which may be going on and affecting her ability to suck effectively. Give us a shout if you need a recommendation. xx

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Latest post on 19 June 2011 - 13:42

also although it doesn't feel like it you have made great progress by fixing the latch and the fact that she will still suck at all is very positive.

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Latest post on 19 June 2011 - 13:38

RT if she latches well she will achieve a let down of milk much faster than when you hand express or pump. I have to pump for 5 minutes before I get anything much but my LO is gulping within seconds (and his latch isn't that great even now, but not painful). At a guess, she has begun to prefer the bottle, as it requires less effort on her part and she gets a fast flow immediately without having to work for it. She has also has probably got a bit frustrated with the whole latching thing after being popped on and off so much. The best thing you could do is give her no bottles, if you are really worried she is not getting enough and have the energy you could cup feed or (best case scenario) you will be able to access one of those supplemental feeding systems where basically you feed at the breast but there is a tube pumping out expressed milk so she is getting more reward for her efforts, I don't know if that is available in Dubai. If you really feel you need to give bottles try not to give them at every feed. I know how you feel because I lasted about 2 days with cup feeding and then even though I knew it was a mistake I just gave EBM by bottle as I couldn't handle seeing my precious milk being spilled down his front. You are doing the right things at the breast, you just need to keep at it and get rid of all bottles as soon as you are able. Call a few LC"s immediately, you need help and support now. Big hugs Emma

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Latest post on 19 June 2011 - 13:36

Sorry to hear that bf is still such a struggle for you RT. I cannot really help you because my DD was really good at bf from the beginning. I was also very fortunate to have great nurses and midwives around to help me for a great start. DD never accepted the bottle until just recently at 1.5 years old. Have you taken your LO to get her checked for tongue tie or other physical issues that might make it hard for her to get the milk out of the breast? Drinking from a bottle is so much easier than feeding from the breast directly. Maybe you LO just got lazy now that she's gotten used to the bottle? If you say she latches on and drinks after the worst hunger is over, maybe that's the case. Maybe try to give her bottle first and then breast. And slowly decrease the amount you give her via bottle day by day..? Or try to give her the breast before she even gets too hungry. It might mean that you'll end up feeding her more frquently, but the bonus is that this will stimulate your supply. Just some ideas... I think it would be a good idea to get a good breast pump (have a look on here there are many ladies who exclusively feed EBM) to keep your supply up. Hand expressing is a tough job and takes too much of your precious time. There's nothing wrong with feeding EBM via bottle. You'll be giving your LO all the good stuff and bonding happens also when feeding the bottle. So maybe try and relax about the whole thing and take the stress out a bit. You sound like a great mom! Good luck to both of you!

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