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Latest post on 20 April 2011 - 09:52

I think there are 2 elements to Palm Cooling bills. 1 - The annual capacity charge, my understanding is this is for having the privillage of using their equipment!!, needs to be paid even when the propert is unoccupied. (like a standing charge) 2 - The actual consumption cost of chilled water. Also the rules of PDC have changed on a regular basis as to if all the bill is sent to the owner, the resident of the property or split. The agreement in the tennancy contract would override any of PDC rules. They are not too bad at Ibn Bhattuta PDC, near the balloon if you need clarification.

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Latest post on 20 April 2011 - 00:51

Found this on another thread may be of some help to you I would like to advise that Palm District Cooling has issued a new agreement and based on this who ever is staying in the property is now responsible to pay for both consumption and capacity charges regardless if they are the owner or the tenant. Regarding deposits, both owner and tenant are required to pay a deposit. Owner’s deposit will only be refunded once the property is sold to a new owner. Also, all registrations have to be done in our IBN Battuta Shop since only the actual customer or his power of attorney (POA) can sign the agreement. No more registrations via email. You may download the terms and condition in our website: http://www.palmutilities.com/DownloadPage2.jsp Would this apply only to new registrations and override anything that was written in a tenancy contract?

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Latest post on 20 April 2011 - 00:36

Crystil thank you very much for your input, but why have you paid 18 000 Dhs to Palm Cooling if you think that the LL should have done it? If I told you what we were paying in rent, you would understand. Our rent is way over the market and thought we would only be subjected to the usual: DEWA and DU, then the LL passed on the bill for the cooling charges. I could be living in a lovely villa in Emirates Hills for what we are paying. Problem was, as I said, LL is a "friend" so DH just went along and pays it. I hate the thought of having to make a move a year later, but I'm sure we will end up saving in the long run, or getting alot more for the same money. edited by Crystil on 20/04/2011 No I don't understand. My tenant is paying below the market and refusing to pay a/c it just doesn't make sense. I think both of us need to make better research when renewing. And this stupid property was not my choice....My husband bought it and I need to manage it now.... You just can win....either side of the fence..... If he has a below market rent and his cost is average 600 per month, he should realize how lucky he is. Our rent is more than what the market is asking - and argued the point with DH, to no avail. Now he sees what is out there and what we are paying over and above and agrees with me. I would be happy to be in your tenants position - below market rent, low cooling charges.

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Latest post on 20 April 2011 - 00:22

Crystil thank you very much for your input, but why have you paid 18 000 Dhs to Palm Cooling if you think that the LL should have done it? If I told you what we were paying in rent, you would understand. Our rent is way over the market and thought we would only be subjected to the usual: DEWA and DU, then the LL passed on the bill for the cooling charges. I could be living in a lovely villa in Emirates Hills for what we are paying. Problem was, as I said, LL is a "friend" so DH just went along and pays it. I hate the thought of having to make a move a year later, but I'm sure we will end up saving in the long run, or getting alot more for the same money. <em>edited by Crystil on 20/04/2011</em>

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Latest post on 19 April 2011 - 23:19

Found this on another thread may be of some help to you I would like to advise that Palm District Cooling has issued a new agreement and based on this who ever is staying in the property is now responsible to pay for both consumption and capacity charges regardless if they are the owner or the tenant. Regarding deposits, both owner and tenant are required to pay a deposit. Owner’s deposit will only be refunded once the property is sold to a new owner. Also, all registrations have to be done in our IBN Battuta Shop since only the actual customer or his power of attorney (POA) can sign the agreement. No more registrations via email. You may download the terms and condition in our website: http://www.palmutilities.com/DownloadPage2.jsp Should you need more information, please do not hesitate to contact me.' Kind regards Rudy Montepio Customer Service Representative Palm Utilities

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Latest post on 19 April 2011 - 23:03

Before you do anything you better check with RERA. You may find yourself in a very unpleasant situation since that was not agreed upon in the lease.

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Latest post on 19 April 2011 - 22:33

Is the A/C a separate bill - Palm utility? If so, then I would have to say - objectively - that you would be responsible for it because nothing was agreed upon in the lease. I think the Palm utility is something people don't know about or realize. When we took this apartment we didn't have a clue about it, but we still pay it. It has added 18,000 a year on top of our rent, which is one of the reasons we are going to look for a drop in our rent, which is over the market. <em>edited by Crystil on 19/04/2011</em>

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Latest post on 19 April 2011 - 22:07

I don't know if it is something that can be switched off during vacancy. I'm assuming that if not, they there would be a bill, minimum at the very least. Are you a LL or a tenant? Are you in negotiations for an apartment? If so, please make sure who is responsible for what. If the water heater goes, the dishwasher goes, the clothes washer (dryer, if there is on) goes, who is going to pay for repairs/replacement. edited by Crystil on 19/04/2011 I'm the landlord and my tenant doesn't pay me for the expenses I made for his a/c (although I paid for the set up charges only asking for what he has been consuming), so I'm tempted not to pay the following bill.... I'm on both sides of the fence as I'm renting a property as well. And it's no way I wouldn't pay my a/c bill.... Live and learn right? I gather that wasn't sorted out in the lease. I think it would fall to you since the account is in your name and nothing mentioned in the lease. I do think it's fair that the tenant pay for the consumption, but you may have a tenant who feels that since it wasn't agreed upon, it will fall to you. If you renew the lease with them, get that in the lease. <em>edited by Crystil on 19/04/2011</em>

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Latest post on 19 April 2011 - 21:36

I don't know if it is something that can be switched off during vacancy. I'm assuming that if not, they there would be a bill, minimum at the very least. Are you a LL or a tenant? Are you in negotiations for an apartment? If so, please make sure who is responsible for what. If the water heater goes, the dishwasher goes, the clothes washer (dryer, if there is on) goes, who is going to pay for repairs/replacement. <em>edited by Crystil on 19/04/2011</em>

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Latest post on 18 April 2011 - 20:15

We are on the Palm in the Marina Residence and on the average I would say we are paying roughly 1,200 for a 3BR!!! When we renegotiate the rent we are going to give the LL the choice of paying it or reduce our rent to cover the cost. I'm almost sure that if the apartment is vacant or occupied there would still be a monthly bill so the LL would still have to pay it (as well as the maintenance fees). Negotiate this point with the LL and make sure it's in your lease. <em>edited by Crystil on 18/04/2011</em>

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