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Consulate saga...a bit long

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EW GURU
Latest post on 02 February 2012 - 21:33

So we used to have an Indian maid for the longest time during our last posting and wanted to call her to Dubai now. I checked the procedure with Housemaids Helpline no. at the Indian Embassy in Abu dhabi and was a bit taken aback to learn about the tedious procedure and sp. the part about aed 9000 deposit with Consulate in Dubai (in addition to the fee and deposit with Dubai Immig). Decided to go ahead anyway. Got her visa and told her to prepare to come here. Braced ourselves for a hectic morning of racing between Ministries and queuing for photocopies and attestations. Went to IC in BurDubai for copy of labour contract that had to be typed and attested. Found out that since we were not Indians, we needed an approval from New Delhi, India. Sounded crazy but we carried on. Few days later I called to check and was told by visa dude that he had seen some communication re our application and it had been rejected! Details with the lady in charge. Lady in charge, very defensive, said there was no reason provided in writing, no recourse and could not return my docs nor show me the rejection stamp. I went to her boss the First Officer who promised to look into the matter. Later said there was no reason for rejection provided and I could check with New Delhi Protectorate of Immigrants. Spoke to a bewidered officer at POI in India who said they had received nothing from Dubai and never do as this has nothing to do with them anyway. Just what I thought!

I went one step up in heirarchy to Consul-Labour who promised to look into the matter and then started avoiding my calls. Went to see him and caught him unawares. Said (and must have later regretted) that actually only Indian and UAE nationals may call in maids from India. So our 'application' was never really sent to India and the chapter was pretty much decided internally and immediately. And that was pretty much that.

Needless to say...I am furious!

1. at the run around given to me (was even advised to call India!!),
2. wasted visa fee
3. for want of a better phrase, the racism
4. maid in India, left her job, moved back to hometown, put her kids in relatives' care to prepare to come
5. had arranged to let go of current maid, got her a nice juicy job lined up

Aaaarrgghhh....at no time was I asked my Nationality when I called the Housemaids helpline no in AbuDhabi for the procedure/fee etc. And I called 3-4 times as I had a few qs about their long-winded paperwork requirement. And infact after it all ended I called them again and asked the same question. Again the same info was given to me as a month ago. But this time I prompted the man that I was not an Indian National to which he said so what? the procedure was same for all and that complete info was on their website.

Do I have any recourse on this?

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 17:12
[ The information is not correct. You [b'>DO[/b'> need an Indian guarantor. Homeward bound I do have to agree with AQ. While I am married to a UAE national before I was married I went through this process to hire my own maid from India and DH found someone who worked for him and who we knew to stand for me as guarantor. It may seem very frustrating (it is I agree have done it), but you must understand that it is done not out of racism at all but to further dissuade human trafficking from that country. Maybe you have a friend of a friend who could stand for you? I understand that and if push came to shove could have found Indian friends. But how do you explain all the drama surrounding the rejection of my request? Why did none of the 5-6 officials I met ever mention that this was the reason? It is a very valid reason after all and one I would not have contested if put forth as the basis of rejection. Why did the first person who initailly took my application not ask where my guarantor was? Why did the First Officer-Labour not say that my request will not be processed wthout a Guarantor? And why did the CONSUL-Labour not say upfront that was the reason for rejection rather than say and I quote" actually the thing is that we dont allow any nationality other than Indians and Locals to sponsor maids from India". Like I mentioned earlier I even asked the Consul in so many words if this was the reason and he said it was not. Why give me the runaround, even ask me to call Protector of Emigrants in India? Why lie??? I understand how very very frustrating dealing with any local government official can be let alone one here. In my opinion, for whatever it is worth, the problem is two-fold. The first being that such a large part of any office here really does not seem to know the real information or any intricate details about any specific process. The second, I find, is that the higher up you go the more reluctant people are to say "No". So much of what happens here can depend on who you know. When I go to a govt office the answers I receive are entirely different then if I go, say, with the family 'fixer' for lack of a better word. I sincerely believe they think they might be able to x, y, or z for you at the higher level and then find they cannot. But they do not want to say no at the outset. Again, not an excuse, just a personal observation.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 16:59
[ The information is not correct. You [b'>DO[/b'> need an Indian guarantor. Homeward bound I do have to agree with AQ. While I am married to a UAE national before I was married I went through this process to hire my own maid from India and DH found someone who worked for him and who we knew to stand for me as guarantor. It may seem very frustrating (it is I agree have done it), but you must understand that it is done not out of racism at all but to further dissuade human trafficking from that country. Maybe you have a friend of a friend who could stand for you? I understand that and if push came to shove could have found Indian friends. But how do you explain all the drama surrounding the rejection of my request? Why did none of the 5-6 officials I met ever mention that this was the reason? It is a very valid reason after all and one I would not have contested if put forth as the basis of rejection. Why did the first person who initailly took my application not ask where my guarantor was? Why did the First Officer-Labour not say that my request will not be processed wthout a Guarantor? And why did the CONSUL-Labour not say upfront that was the reason for rejection rather than say and I quote" actually the thing is that we dont allow any nationality other than Indians and Locals to sponsor maids from India". Like I mentioned earlier I even asked the Consul in so many words if this was the reason and he said it was not. Why give me the runaround, even ask me to call Protector of Emigrants in India? Why lie???
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 16:10
BTW, you are welcome, no probs.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 15:29
Before starting the process and after having read the requirements on website, I told the Consulate I do not know any Indians well enough to ask them to stand guarantor. They replied that it was not really necessary as long as I was ready to put in the dh9200 deposit as security and that yes, I may go ahead and apply to Dub Immig for her visa. .Even afterwards when our application was turned down and all, I asked the Consul-Labour specifically if it was because I could not arrange an Indian guarantor...and he replied in the negative...saying that it had nothing to do with that...its just that they dont give approvals to non Indian/UAE nationals at all (for no apparent reason). The information is not correct. You [b'>DO[/b'> need an Indian guarantor. Homeward bound I do have to agree with AQ. While I am married to a UAE national before I was married I went through this process to hire my own maid from India and DH found someone who worked for him and who we knew to stand for me as guarantor. It may seem very frustrating (it is I agree have done it), but you must understand that it is done not out of racism at all but to further dissuade human trafficking from that country. Maybe you have a friend of a friend who could stand for you?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 15:21
Before starting the process and after having read the requirements on website, I told the Consulate I do not know any Indians well enough to ask them to stand guarantor. They replied that it was not really necessary as long as I was ready to put in the dh9200 deposit as security and that yes, I may go ahead and apply to Dub Immig for her visa. .Even afterwards when our application was turned down and all, I asked the Consul-Labour specifically if it was because I could not arrange an Indian guarantor...and he replied in the negative...saying that it had nothing to do with that...its just that they dont give approvals to non Indian/UAE nationals at all (for no apparent reason). The information is not correct. You [b'>DO[/b'> need an Indian guarantor.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 15:14
Before starting the process and after having read the requirements on website, I told the Consulate I do not know any Indians well enough to ask them to stand guarantor. They replied that it was not really necessary as long as I was ready to put in the dh9200 deposit as security and that yes, I may go ahead and apply to Dub Immig for her visa. .Even afterwards when our application was turned down and all, I asked the Consul-Labour specifically if it was because I could not arrange an Indian guarantor...and he replied in the negative...saying that it had nothing to do with that...its just that they dont give approvals to non Indian/UAE nationals at all (for no apparent reason).
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 February 2012 - 13:48
[i'>The intending employer (other than a UAE national ) will have to approach the Indian Consulate accompanied by an Indian national, who would personally guarantee the character and the social standing of the intending employer Photocopies of the passports of the employer, the Indian guarantor and the proposed FHSW[/i'> http://www.cgidubai.com/?p=187 I am sorry but I dont get your point Quwaitain.This the step about getting an Indian guarantor. I am aware about it...so? <em>edited by Homeward Bound on 04/02/2012</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 February 2012 - 22:25
[i'>The intending employer (other than a UAE national ) will have to approach the Indian Consulate accompanied by an Indian national, who would personally guarantee the character and the social standing of the intending employer Photocopies of the passports of the employer, the Indian guarantor and the proposed FHSW[/i'> http://www.cgidubai.com/?p=187
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 February 2012 - 21:36
I already tried that Loube....they refuse to give any thing in writing. The least I want to come out of this is for them to amend the info ontheir website
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EW GURU
Latest post on 02 February 2012 - 21:43
go through an agency to bring her here?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 02 February 2012 - 21:40
push for the confirmation of rejection in writing, seems racist the reason for rejection, then demand your visa fee refund...sounds like a nightmare, thanks for warning everyone else
 
 

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