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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:29

Are they not a person we're responsible for to a certain extent? Or is it every man for himself? People in Japan are volunteering to go back into nuclear facilities to try and avoid an enormous disaster, knowing that they themselves will probably die (for people they DON'T know). Nursing home staff are staying with their charges because the elderly people they care for won't survive if they are transported. And this is a discussion about one person, who lives in our home and looks after us and our children???

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:27

Isn't it the maid's country's responsibility to evacuate her as she is also an expat? And how is a low income worker expected to pay for that? Or gain the permission to leave?

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:27

So, SW, in this situation, what would YOU do? I don't have a maid! LOL But if i did then i would do everything in my power to make sure she was safely repatriated and if the writing was on the wall as it has been so far, i would make sure she was out safe before the family. I would not leave another human being i was responsible for in a situation i would not be prepared to stay in myself.

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:25

Isn't it the maid's country's responsibility to evacuate her as she is also an expat?

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:24

So, SW, in this situation, what would YOU do?

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:23

Serioulsy though it's a valid question and would be interesting to hear the results of what sponsors feel re maids. Maids because to most they don't seem to be human. I think most expats would be more concerned about their pets than they would about their maids, that's how warped most expats appear to be here. <em>edited by Sticky Wicket on 18/03/2011</em>

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:20

I think izzy was referring to evactuation based on war/uprising rather than a natural disaster. Yes, but even in a pending "war" situation, I don't think I would be taking a number and waiting for hours at Immigration....... Then you should question whether you should sponsor another human being? LOL I think I'll take the risk!

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:19

I think izzy was referring to evactuation based on war/uprising rather than a natural disaster. Yes, but even in a pending "war" situation, I don't think I would be taking a number and waiting for hours at Immigration....... Then you should question whether you should sponsor another human being?

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:18

I think izzy was referring to evactuation based on war/uprising rather than a natural disaster. Yes, I think she was, but saw these scenes of chaos in Tripoli......think about it though, even in a pending "war" or serious uprising situation, I don't think I would be taking a number and waiting for hours at Immigration....... <em>edited by Pomegranate on 18/03/2011</em>

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:16

I think izzy was referring to evactuation based on war/uprising rather than a natural disaster.

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:14

It' an interesting question. I don't consider my maid as "one of the family" - she's an employee paid to do a job (and a great job she does too!).....I can't see my employer running around trying to evacuate me, would sooner just take matters into my own hands rather than relying on them! Part its part of your sponsorship agreement you as a sponsor agreed to. True, but as I said, in the case of a [u'>serious[/u'> natural disaster, all/any rules would go out the window. Imagine seriously what would go on. The airport is in chaos. Thousands are trying to flee. Are you going to calmly go to Immigration (if it is actually open) and do the appropriate paperwork and then go and wait for your maid to get a flight out (for example) and then go back and get your family?! What, sell the cars on Dubizzle and organize shipping quotes? LOL - we are talking a SERIOUS situation - or are we? edited by Pomegranate on 18/03/2011 <em>edited by Pomegranate on 18/03/2011</em>

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 15:08

When the war in Lebanon broke out in 2006, my husband was sent in to evacuate his client. My maid at the time (we were in Jordan) had a sister who was also a maid in Lebanon. The family she was working for completely abandoned her at the house with no food, no money. My DH hunted her down and finally found out that she was able to take a taxi to the Filipina embassy - which was completely overwhelmed by abandoned maids. They ended up chartering a flight to bring them home.

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 14:38

It' an interesting question. I don't consider my maid as "one of the family" - she's an employee paid to do a job (and a great job she does too!).....I can't see my employer running around trying to evacuate me, would sooner just take matters into my own hands rather than relying on them! Part its part of your sponsorship agreement you as a sponsor agreed to.

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 14:30

I think that's a slightly different case thou, we don't live with our employers and we are not in the care of in the same sense as a maid. And not to sound arrogant but most western women are slightly more capable, both in terms of money and initiative than most maids. Who i feel would struggle with trying to evacuate themselves. Heard complete horror stories of maids from some villages in Philippines not even being able to work out what they need to do to leave their own country.

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 14:27

It' an interesting question. I don't consider my maid as "one of the family" - she's an employee paid to do a job (and a great job she does too!).....I can't see my employer running around trying to evacuate me, would sooner just take matters into my own hands rather than relying on them!

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 14:21

Just curious really.....

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 14:19

So the "they're one of the family" will be tossed out the window and they will be abandoned? Naturally, where's the difference?

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 14:08

I think if it was a huge natural disaster, all the 'rules' would go out of the window and it would just be every family/person for themselves......unfortunately. If the traffic can be at a standstill for hours due to five minutes of fireworks on NYE, imagine the chaos in a disaster/evacuation scenario - shudder - doesn't bear thinking about.

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Latest post on 18 March 2011 - 13:57

As their sponsor it is the responsibility of the empolyer to repatriate them at the sponsors cost.

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