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thats why I gave the dummy, because I thought it would be easier to take away than a thumb, but I think I've actually read somewhere now that the dummy is worse for the palate. (even the orthodontic ones) According to my paed, thumb is the worst because they push on the upper palate, which, according to him is the toughest dental problem to fix. Dummies are better as there isnt as much pressure on the upper palate. He says fingers are fine. My poor thumb sucker...

thats why I gave the dummy, because I thought it would be easier to take away than a thumb, but I think I've actually read somewhere now that the dummy is worse for the palate. (even the orthodontic ones) Hmmm :( so confusing to know what to do...

thats why I gave the dummy, because I thought it would be easier to take away than a thumb, but I think I've actually read somewhere now that the dummy is worse for the palate. (even the orthodontic ones)

I thought sucking dummys wasn't as bad as sucking their fingers? I want to take the dummy from DD but when I do she'll simply suck her fingers/thumb. So not sure what to do now re the dummy?

BFC I hope so, although I'm not sure if more breastfeeding would have been better for him (or for my back really), given what a big boy he is now ;). I have family members who are ENT's and Dentists and both have given me a hard time about the dummy in regards to palate/teeth but I'm hoping all the breastfeeding has been good for his jaw development to counter :). I will try and take it away as soon as I feel he can do it without tears, meanwhile it does make him happy. Can you believe "no dummys" was in big bold letters on my birth plan and I had given in and bought him one myself before we even left the hospital :(

Kiwispiers, don't beat yourself up for one minute! We do what is best at the time according to the information that we have. My first child was a big dummy child, and although knowing now what I didn't know then I believe that her need to suck would have been better met at the breast, the dummy provided a lot of comfort and really helped her, just as it sounds as if it is helping your little one cope with the changes which have been part of his life. He *will* grow out of it, just as my daughter grew out of hers :) xx

I really really really wish I had taken the dummy away at 3 months as planned (apparently the addiction starts around 3-4 months ) We knew we should but I decided to keep it as it was such a great sleep cue and we were going home on vacation when he was 4/12 months. We came back at 5 1/2 months and he started waking for it shortly after that. And I agree it is a total pain, I did use the pantly "no cry" method to wean him off sleeping with it, taking it away shortly before he feel asleep but then he got sick and I gave it back and never bother trying to take it again. He is only now starting to be old enough to find it himself (we scatter 3 or 4 in the cot to make it easier) and is also getting to a point where he self soothes. At the same time, I love the dummy as a sleep cue, he literally puts his head down closes his eyes and goes to sleep the second I give it to him, and if he does wake in the night often that is all he needs to go back to sleep. I have to admit I really just don't have the energy to try and take it just yet and I'm not at a point where I am ready to let him cry for it but he truly doesn't not think he can sleep without it and that is a problem, plus I worry about his pallete.

My second child only started sleeping through the night at the age of 24 months. It is not easy while you are going through it but eventually things will get better!

Hi Livinia, I haven't read all the answers here but most probably the biggest problem is the dummy!! My 2 boys had dummies and repeatedly woke up during the night when it dropped out and they couldn't find it. It was only when they got older that I read an article about this. Removing the dummy will be a big help.. I know, I know....this seems like an horrific option at the moment but the younger babies are when you remove the dummy the easier and more quickly they forget about it. My sisters little man was 4 months old when I came across this information and she applied it and within 3 days he didn't 'look' for the dummy at all. AND yes it sorted out his sleep problem ! Remove the dummy, expect probably a few difficult days, entertain and comfort him as much as you can and within a few days he should be ok without it. Good luck!! I do feel your pain, my 8 year old finally started sleeping through at 6 and my 5 year old still wakes up......at least he just hops into bed with us now but I was on my knees with exhaustion for the first 3 years of their lives and in my case I have no doubt that the dummy was largely to blame! :)

Yep I know all about that, mine often woke for his dummy at that age. But actually, quite often he might be dreaming, they can even cry in their sleep sometimes so maybe try waiting a minute or so and you might not even need to go in. If he isn't crying I def wouldn't go in.

He rarely wakes up fully...he sort of moans and groans and if I then don't stick a dummy in his mouth he might wake up fully but mostly his 1am wakings is more because of moaning and moving all a cross the bed on his tummy... He never cries though....I am fortunate.

BTW he might actually be hungry, it is pretty common for babies to still need one or two night feeds at that age. If you offer him a night feed how much does he drink?

it is just temporary, by the time he turns 5 he will most likely be sleeping through. ;) Rocking him to sleep is likely to become a problem, I would suggest you read "the no cry sleep solution" by Elizabetg pantly for advice on gently weaning him off that. You might like to up his meds or try losec if you think the reflux is bothering him. My baby had reflux too but since he always settled straight back to sleep after a feed or his dummy I assume he wasn't in discomfort. As soon as mine could roll he became a tummy sleeper, he ends up sideways across the cot, sleeping in crawling position, curled up at the foot of the bed. It is normal, I suggest you buy an infant sleeping bag if he doesn't already have one so he stays warm no matter where he ends up. Def nap him before he gets grizzly, crying is a very late tired sign. 5 years????????? yikes lol i think i might up his meds and see if it makes a difference.... i did use losec mups but it stopped working after 2 mnths....something my doc said happens often (not always). will call his Pead today! the sleeping bag is maybe a good thing to try although somehow even when he rolls around the blankie stays put...something i have noticed though is he wakes up around 4 hrs after he first goes to bed....could this become habit?? i have done three things last night but not sure if it actually helped..i made sure i give the Zantac half an hour before feeding time...I had him sleep without a baby pillow as he is always "wrestling " with the thing or putting his hands under it just to at the end turn it over himself or away from him,..........and I actually stopped giving him formula with bottled water...i know this is daft of me but I was not aware I shouldnt give bottled water....I had my husband go drive all over town yesterday to go search for that Brita Navelia filter jug to filter tap water....however I am not sure which is the lesser of the two evils.... he woke up once last night, 4 hrs after i put him to bed...and then only at 5:30...i make him lie in bed with me for at least half an hour in the mornings bonding and in order for me to wake up slowly and he was as happy as everymorning so only change was that he only woke up once...THIS COULD BE PURE LUCK THOUGH lol Thanks for all the tips and advice to all of u...Im one of those moms that probably should read the "Babies for Dummies" book....

I I hope there is someone out there that is gonna tell me this is just temp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is just temporary, by the time he turns 5 he will most likely be sleeping through. ;) Rocking him to sleep is likely to become a problem, I would suggest you read "the no cry sleep solution" by Elizabetg pantly for advice on gently weaning him off that. You might like to up his meds or try losec if you think the reflux is bothering him. My baby had reflux too but since he always settled straight back to sleep after a feed or his dummy I assume he wasn't in discomfort. As soon as mine could roll he became a tummy sleeper, he ends up sideways across the cot, sleeping in crawling position, curled up at the foot of the bed. It is normal, I suggest you buy an infant sleeping bag if he doesn't already have one so he stays warm no matter where he ends up. Def nap him before he gets grizzly, crying is a very late tired sign.

I bought a Reflux Wedge from Premaman - Dubai mall too which helped DS to sleep much better without my upright holding support. great! until what age did ur baby use it? I tried to find them months ago but no luck..wish i knew this then! i wonder if it is not maybe the reflux bothering him at night that is making him moan and groan and move around so much. My DS refuses to sleep any other way than on his tummy.....will this wedge help? I use to raise the cot dont know why i stopped...but tx for reminding me..will do it tonight! I am actually also gonna try getting him to sleep more in the day...one lady mentioned in a post that her mom said leave until baby gets moany, and i normally do that maybe out of just pure "needing some time out" but now I will follow baby sense's guidelines and put him to sleep every 1.5hr to 2hrs...started today and he actually fell asleep afdter 5 minutes of rocking him then put him to bed....(cant put him to bed drowsy he starts going nuts and talking and laughing ).

You can give him a dream feed to him before you go to bed & offer some water if he's awake after you sleep. My 15months DS wakes up at about 4-5am & I keep a water bottle with me & offer that to him. He's in the cot which placed next to our bed; So, I can easily offer that & go to sleep. My one never had a dummy in the mouth & I offered him milk once before I goto bed & then around 4am (once he cried) till he becomes nearly 10 months. If you give formula you can keep some ready made one with you at night & can easily offer him. Otherwise, keep a sterilized bottle & warm water in the flask, milk powder & cool water to make milk to cool down next to you (This's what I did); so you can easily make his milk. Other alternative store made milk bottles in the fridge & use a food warmer to make it warm (you can find instructions from the web for this). problem is my DS has reflux so after any feed he needs to be upright.....also i go to bed an hour after he eats..........as i keep him upright sleeping on me for the reflux....and then im knackered so this seems like a good idea but unfortunately with my baby's reflux it wont work :-((((

You are not the only one with a baby that doesn't sleep through so don't worry! I was just saying to someone yesterday that after reading all the posts on here I feel like my DS (5 months) is the only one that doesn't sleep through (I know thats not the case but feels like it!) DS goes to bed at 7pm and is dreamfed at 10pm. He then wakes again once between 1am - 2am. I've tried to pat and shush him back to sleep at this wake up time once. He did go back to sleep but only for one hour, at which point I then gave him a quick feed and he went back to sleep until 5am. He then wakes again at around 4:30am - 5am. If I feed him both times he will go back to sleep. He's up at around 6:45am - 7am every morning. Like your LO, DS also slept through the night 4 times when he was around 2-3 months but then started teething. He has two through now. Sounds like your LO might be teething also. My DS is always covered in dribble and has his hands in mouth. It's so hard to go back to no sleep when they have teesed you with sleeping through the night a few times. Sorry I can't be of more help, I would love to get my DS down to only waking around 5am. Just wanted to let you know that you are not alone :) Just another thought - he's not too cold at night is he? I was reading somewhere if they are too cold then they move around the cot? I have mine strapped into a SafeTSleep at night because he's learnt to roll over but can't get back over yet most of the time. <em>edited by 2Blossom on 22/06/2011</em>

Is it only my baby of 6.5 months that does not sleep through?? I am soooo tired all the time and despondent....I get upset when I hear moms say my baby has slept through since 3 months!!!!!! WHy not mine?? He goes to sleep around 8pm and then wakes up between midnight and 3am once or twice...then around 4:30 am and then finally between 5:30 / 6am when I get up and give him his morning milk.... I do not give feeds at night, i only put the dummy in the mouth and pray he falls asleep again...most of the time he does but I don't...and this is killing me.... He slept through the night a few times between the ages of 3 - 5 months and it was heaven but now I have had a taste of this heaven and want it back! I am flying solo at night as my husband works very long hours during the day so I let him sleep and do weekends but I need to fix this problem asap or I will go nuts. I am thinking sometimes he has tummy ache as he pulls up his legs...NOTE THOUGH he only sleeps on his tummy...no other way works, since early age as he suffered badly from Reflux...we have him on Zantac . The reason he wakes up I think is because he is alll over the cot, he tosses and turns a lot and i sometimes find him lying horizontal rather than vertical down the cot! sorry for long post but im out of ideas...has anyone been through this??? If so did ur baby grow out of it or could it maybe be teeth??? He drools a lot and he keeps rubbing his face and the gums where the front teeth should be is super white....and looks swollen. I hope there is someone out there that is gonna tell me this is just temp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!