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Watery b'milk - nutrition advice

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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 December 2011 - 22:12

Hi all

With DS1 I found at 10 weeks that I had watery milk supply ... No fatty goodness which lead to the discovery that the reason my boy kept crying and not putting on much weight was coz he was blooming starving poor guy. I tried to increase good oils in my diet trying to increase the fat milk and found that loads and I maen like 1kg packet of peanuts over 2 days would give me about 15ml in 3 expresses of fatty milk in 120ml express. DS2 is due in April... Most likely march really... And I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced the watery b**b milk before ... If so, did you try anything to increase the fat content, with you subsequent children did you do anything different, did you have fattier milk second time around?

Just wondering what I could do now to help. I have increased good fats early... And more of it than what I had when pg with ds1. I'm eating loads of almonds, avocados and cooking with good olive oil or cocconut oil.
I have tuna about 3-4 times a week, admittedly canned but good stuff. I know I could eat salmon perhaps once a week but I've really gone off it because last few pieces I've had have not been fresh I don't think, waaaay to seaweed / sea strong taste which just the thought of makes me gag.

Ay other suggestions? I posted in the babies forum too but thought here may get bigger response.

TIA
<em>edited by AussiePup on 03/12/2011</em>

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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 04 December 2011 - 21:50
Thx all. I can say that I did exclusively pump for almost a week at about week 6 because I had thrush and him feeding was killing me I'd be in tears some days. Expressing actually hurt but didn't hurt as much so I did that for 5 days and I would do it based on every time he fed the weeks before so that basically meant I was pumping every 2 hrs and I'd t least wait until there was nothing but a drip for 2-3 mins which would be about the half hr mark. Some days I would get close to 200mls from 1 side, other times only 120mls and no matter how much there would only be 3mls of fat stuff. I ate rather well, I had been (for 10mths prior to the pregnancy) been consulting a nutritionist and continued to take her advice through feeding. I was eating rather well including good fats as I mentioned below. I also increased all of that but yeah had a craving for the peanuts and low n behold the days I'd pump after the peanuts there would be much more fat milk. I thought about the summer thing too kiwispers... But was already drinking 1glass juice in the morning for breakfast then about 3ltrs of water a day, sometimes 4 coz when feeding I was very thirsty. It's just got me baffled so thought I'd see if anyone else had the issue. The advice re the 1/3rd of fatty goodness in expressed milk was given to me by a lactation consultant. Very true about the body reacting differently too with each pregnancy so I guess there is no reason to think that I will have the same problem next time round... Just thought though if there was anything dif to what I'm already doing It might help give a head start or maybe it may contribute :) Thx for all your posts and support xox
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 04 December 2011 - 10:04
unless you pumped all your milk exclusively for a few days to a week and then combined all that milk and had that analysed by a lab I'd be pretty skeptical of your conclusion that your milk is "too watery". I've def seen that sort of ratio in my own milk when pumped, esp morning milk. Its important to realise (and maybe you know all this but I'm writing it so that any other new mums reading don't "test" their own milk freak out when they see the same) that the fat content of your milk varies wildly throughout the day, generally in the morning the fat content is low and in the evening/night it is highest. There is also seasonal variation (in summer there is more water in your milk as mother nature recognizes the greater need for hydration, a baby fed on cue will drink more frequently so as to get the same amount of nutrition as well as the extra water, one of the main reasons it is never necessary to give water to an EBF baby) Also the more "full" your breast the lower the fat content and the more the milk will separate into "foremilk" and "hindmilk". Basically the milk is not made in two parts, the separation only occurs when the full breast is not emptied frequently, as in the case of 3/4 hourly scheduled feeding. In this case the initial letdown is low fat high carb and the baby will need to suck for longer to get to the creamy "hindmilk". The reason they don't advise only giving part of the milk to your baby is that there are important nutirents in both parts, the "foremilk" is high in milk sugar and water soluable vitammins, the hindmilk is high in fat and fat soluble vitimins etc, baby needs the carbs as well as the fats. Its been shown that the volume of milk should be increased, not the fat content (which is pretty impossible to change via diet anyway). As jillp says the only way to increase the fat content is to change your feeding/pumping habits to more frequent feeds, its reasonable to expect this would probably result in your baby taking an overall higher volume of milk too as their is only so much you can squeeze into a little tummy in one go. You might want to read [url=http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/case-for-cue-feeding.htm'>this article[/url'>l here is an excerpt; [i'>"Prefeed fat is inversely related to the length of the interfeed interval, which means that feed frequency influences milk fat concentration. Thus feed frequency, one of the key parameters of feed patterning, shows a direct relationship to milk fat concentration and so would appear capable of exerting a direct influence on milk quality.................... "Overall, the fat concentration of milk taken at feeds would appear to be maximized both by increasing feed frequency and milk volume removal (which itself is a combination of unrestricted feed duration and optimal positioning), yet in Western hospitals it has been common in the past to impose restrictions on both feed frequency and feed duration to the likely detriment of the baby's fat intake. Such restrictions may well have resulted in iatrogenic problems of breastfeeding, which would include fat restriction (resulting in unsettled behavior), symptoms of breast milk insufficiency, and underfeeding."[/i'>
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 04 December 2011 - 09:59
Even though it's debatable whether diet actually affects your milk, I think it does (contrary to some scientific research out there - what do they know?! lol!), I would look at what you eat in a hollistic way. Scoffing a bag of peanuts is a bit extreme, but for example, are you drinking full-fat milk? Using butter and not lo-fat spread (which has no goodness in it at all)? Eating a balanced diet with as much fresh produce as possible? Also, you milk changes to suit the climate, so for example, if it's really hot, your milk will become slightly more watery because the focus swings to also keeping your baby hydrated, as well as providing nutrition. I've never got really scientific about my milk - never analysed it or worried about it... and most of the time never saw it! Try not to worry - your body will react differently for each baby, so there's little reason to assume that you will have the same issues as before.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 December 2011 - 06:06
Breast milk isn't really affected too much by how much you eat, but more by the type of foods you eat - by taking more protein and fats of any type it slightly alters the fat content, but not by much. The best way to produce higher fat levels is to make the breast produce more milk - but frtequent feeeding or but expressing. There has been a lot of research recently about the foremilk and hind milk - it was fashionable for a while to throw away fore milk and only feed hind milk to undernourished babies. But this appears to have gone full circle and is now being ignored again. Relax and enjoy your pregnancy, and just see how things go when baby number two starts to feed.
 
 

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