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Singing the National Anthem everyday in school.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:31

With words, is this happening in every BC school in Dubai at primary level?

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Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 10:22

if those are the words, then if my children ever have to do it at assembly, they will stand respectfully and that's it. Do you think it would be acceptable to force-feed a religion to anyone? My children never chose to come here, and can't leave without me and as sure as damm1t aren't going to be indoctrinated into a belief system at a school I'm paying fees for! Bah... but I was schooled in a country where state and religion are kept very, very separate, and rightly so. I agree with you on most points and that's what my son will do here just as he does back home (stand respectfully and that's it). But you have to admit, saying that a government keeps church and state separate and actually doing so are 2 different things (t[b'>he UK and US certainly don't do this, though they may claim to[/b'>). At least here you know it's an Islamic state and can expect that they will exercise their right to insert religion wherever they wish. Don't know about US but UK make no such claim.

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Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 10:10

I agree with you on most points and that's what my son will do here just as he does back home (stand respectfully and that's it). But you have to admit, saying that a government keeps church and state separate and actually doing so are 2 different things (the UK and US certainly don't do this, though they may claim to). At least here you know it's an Islamic state and can expect that they will exercise their right to insert religion wherever they wish. I went to school in France, where it's actually a school rule to leave all religion at the gate.

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Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 09:30

I was thinking about this some more last night (insomnia does strange things to the mind) and I'm convinced that singing the national anthem is optional. Standing still in respectful silence is the compulsory part. Some people never learn the words to their national anthem. In fact, the UAE national anthem didn't even have any words until 1996 although I believe that it has always been known as [i'>Ishy Biladi[/i'>. Must say that the tune is quite catchy, especially the [i'>biladi, biladi[/i'> bit. Love a good bit of Arab fanfare myself. The Bahraini national anthem is in the same style.

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Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 08:33

if those are the words, then if my children ever have to do it at assembly, they will stand respectfully and that's it. Do you think it would be acceptable to force-feed a religion to anyone? My children never chose to come here, and can't leave without me and as sure as damm1t aren't going to be indoctrinated into a belief system at a school I'm paying fees for! Bah... but I was schooled in a country where state and religion are kept very, very separate, and rightly so. I agree with you on most points and that's what my son will do here just as he does back home (stand respectfully and that's it). But you have to admit, saying that a government keeps church and state separate and actually doing so are 2 different things (the UK and US certainly don't do this, though they may claim to). At least here you know it's an Islamic state and can expect that they will exercise their right to insert religion wherever they wish.

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Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 05:04

What's the big deal?

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Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 03:19

But no-one is required to sing, surely. Just to stand respectfully while the national anthem plays, something I expect my children to do regardless of the anthem being played. Singing optional :) This was the case at my son's BC school last year (and I believe still is this year?). The national anthem is played every day and the children can join in and sing if they want to. Many do, partly no doubt because children love singing. I even found myself humming along most mornings. :)

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 23:56

It is just the tune of the national anthem played in my childrens school. Everyone must stand still when it comes on.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 23:52

if those are the words, then if my children ever have to do it at assembly, they will stand respectfully and that's it. Do you think it would be acceptable to force-feed a religion to anyone? My children never chose to come here, and can't leave without me and as sure as damm1t aren't going to be indoctrinated into a belief system at a school I'm paying fees for! Bah... but I was schooled in a country where state and religion are kept very, very separate, and rightly so. Agree totally.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 23:41

if those are the words, then if my children ever have to do it at assembly, they will stand respectfully and that's it. Do you think it would be acceptable to force-feed a religion to anyone? My children never chose to come here, and can't leave without me and as sure as damm1t aren't going to be indoctrinated into a belief system at a school I'm paying fees for! Bah... but I was schooled in a country where state and religion are kept very, very separate, and rightly so.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 21:15

I think they children are required to sing along and can't just stand respectfully as you normally would to a national anthem other than your own. Min have come home with the words and they spent time in school learning them. I think the difference between singing the anthem here and in a country like the US or Australia is that legal immigrants in those countries have the possibility of one day becomming citizens and making their home there.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 16:33

But no-one is required to sing, surely. Just to stand respectfully while the national anthem plays, something I expect my children to do regardless of the anthem being played. Singing optional :)

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:28

It's done ever day in the US. Not sure why it's a problem for kids to sing it here. Probably because an anthem represents pride in your homeland. Its okay if you sing about your own country however singing about the country where your parents are currently based is a bit weird. In my opinion it's ok to sing the UAE one here since you are based in the UAE... I didn't question that when I was studying in the US - just participated with the others since of course I was happy that I had a chance to study there!

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:25

It's done ever day in the US. Not sure why it's a problem for kids to sing it here. Probably because an anthem represents pride in your homeland. Its okay if you sing about your own country however singing about the country where your parents are currently based is a bit weird. and where you are constantly reminded that you are an expat and should leave if you don't like how things are done. And are immigrants in other countries treated any differently? I still get told that in the US, and I'm a natural born citizen! I think some expats don't realize the negative attitude towards and treatment of immigrants in their home countries, but now as an expat you experience the same attitude and lopsided treatment, and suddenly it's unfair? It's the truth, we are in THEIR country and if we don't like it, we should (and can) leave. Seems like a reality to me?

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:25

It must be lovely for them to sing it every day, Im sure it must help with their Arabic also. Are you taking the proverbial Mrs Mean? No, why?

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:25

It must be lovely for them to sing it every day, Im sure it must help with their Arabic also. Are you taking the proverbial Mrs Mean?

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:21

It must be lovely for them to sing it every day, Im sure it must help with their Arabic also.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:17

They sing it in Arabic and I just love the way my little DD who is 4 tries to sing it. She gets the tune right but the words ......;)

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:13

Arabic

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:12

Long live my country, live United, our Emirates Your life for your people Whose religion is Islam and whose guide is the Quran We fortify you with the name of Allah, oh my homeland My country, my country, my country, my country Allah protects you from evil throughout time Each of us swears to build you and work for you Our work is pure, we work in purity with all our lives, pure & unequivocal The peace is everlasting and the flag lives on, my Emirates You are the symbol of the Arab character Every one of us sacrifices with all of our blood We sacrifice with our very souls, oh, my homeland Do they sing it in English or Arabic ?

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 15:12

It's done ever day in the US. Not sure why it's a problem for kids to sing it here. Probably because an anthem represents pride in your homeland. Its okay if you sing about your own country however singing about the country where your parents are currently based is a bit weird. and where you are constantly reminded that you are an expat and should leave if you don't like how things are done.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:56

It's done ever day in the US. Not sure why it's a problem for kids to sing it here. Probably because an anthem represents pride in your homeland. Its okay if you sing about your own country however singing about the country where your parents are currently based is a bit weird.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:53

[b'>It's done ever day in the US. [/b'> Not sure why it's a problem for kids to sing it here. That's not necessarily true. I know most PUBLIC schools do the pledge of allegiance daily, but the national anthem is usually only sung at sports events or assemblies. And for private schools, the policy can vary by schools. <em>edited by gleekfamily on 04/01/2011</em>

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:48

My DDs have to sing the National Anthem and School song, once a week at the school assembly.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:42

It's done ever day in the US. Not sure why it's a problem for kids to sing it here.

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:38

Every day?

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Latest post on 04 January 2011 - 14:35

i know some schools have been playing and some have been singing....havent heard any more than that though... not a bad thing though, they do it in the U.S. :)

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This was supposed to start taking place well over a year ago.

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