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Latest post on 12 September 2012 - 22:42

Can someone please shed some light on this as I am new to Dubai, and a friend of mine still in the UK has been offered a great job here in Dubai.
He was recently convicted of driving while disqualified, which in turn has given him a criminal record.
I hear that now in the UAE they do CID checks with your home country, and he is very worried that if asked by his employer, it will jeopardise any chances of him getting a visa here when he tells them this.
What are the rules here and how strict is the visa process? Do they actually do checks with your home country? Its not like he has been convicted of something threatheing to the public, although what he did was wrong, could it jeopardise him being able to work here?
Thanks! :)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:53

I wish I could link this thread to the "is it just me" thread where other forums are being discussed because of their general levels of unfriendly replies to any queries posted. I don't understand the need here to dissect, judge and dismiss the reasons why the person lost his licence and by default almost judge the OP as well for asking the question. OK the reasons why he lost his licence could be relevant to his application for a visa, but the need for the OP to have to explain in detail and then have the reasons dismissed as "excuses" seems totally unneccesary and not at all related to the original query. OP - I know someone in a very high position of power here who left his original country with a lot of questions to answer about fraudulent business dealings at a very high and public level. It did not stop him gettting a visa here or gaining higher and higher positions over the course of the last 10 years. I suppose it would depend of what type of work your friend will be applying for but I would say there is no hard and fast rule here. Only the last month the UK published a list of it's most wanted tax fraudsters, several of whom appear to be resident here. This was discussed in the papers here by the cheif of police amongst others. There has also been a case of someone accused of manslaughter in the UK being extradited from here back to the UK. My point is it seems that in a lot of cases they do not seem to do background police checks before issuing visas. Even when they do I am not convinced that they would see a driving ban as a reason to not issue a visa.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:42

Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair, they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! Sounds like he has a lot of excuses - if fines and summonses to appear in court went to the "wrong" address it is because he had failed to update the details on his driving licence as required by law This is also a lot of laws to break - as it is many different convictions It was never said it wasn't his fault, as said, he admitted fault here, no one is perfect, and the price has been paid. Its not an excuse its a fact! I have nothing to hide from people who dont even know him! Its not exactly you who is going to decide whether he would get a visa or not! LOL. Hilarous,I thnk you need to go have a cuppa tea and relax a little Welcome to EW Fuzzypop never mind a cup of tea hehe

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:41

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL Well people are bound to give their opinion on forums, that's something you need to expect. However, if you want to be sure, a forum is not the best place to ask if it involved the law. Maybe you should ask the UAE embassy in the UK? Very true! There is a difference between advice and opinion though. OP only asked a question. Let he without sin cast the first stone ;-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:41

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL Well people are bound to give their opinion on forums, that's something you need to expect. However, if you want to be sure, a forum is not the best place to ask if it involved the law. Maybe you should ask the UAE embassy in the UK? Very true! Differece between advice and opinion though. OP only asked a question. Let he without sin cast the first stone ;-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:40

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL Well people are bound to give their opinion on forums, that's something you need to expect. However, if you want to be sure, a forum is not the best place to ask if it involved the law. Maybe you should ask the UAE embassy in the UK? Very true! Different between advice and opinion though. OP only asked a question. Let he without sin cast the first stone ;-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:39

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL i think you'll soon discover that there is no such thing as a "simple" question on EW....:D I think the OP has realised that aleady :-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:39

OP - are you sure that you know the full story? 19 is a huge number of points for parking tickets and minor traffic offenses - usually it would would have to include something major. Most parking tickets are not even criminal matters unless you park dangerously or are a danger to other traffic such as in a red zone He must have committed a lot of separate crimes I assume he is/has been banned from driving now? as usually 12 points within 3 years leads to a ban

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:38

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL i think you'll soon discover that there is no such thing as a "simple" question on EW....:D

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:37

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL Well people are bound to give their opinion on forums, that's something you need to expect. However, if you want to be sure, a forum is not the best place to ask if it involved the law. Maybe you should ask the UAE embassy in the UK? Very true!

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:37

Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair, they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! Sounds like he has a lot of excuses - if fines and summonses to appear in court went to the "wrong" address it is because he had failed to update the details on his driving licence as required by law This is also a lot of laws to break - as it is many different convictions It was never said it wasn't his fault, as said, he admitted fault here, no one is perfect, and the price has been paid. Its not an excuse its a fact! I have nothing to hide from people who dont even know him! Its not exactly you who is going to decide whether he would get a visa or not! LOL. Hilarous,I thnk you need to go have a cuppa tea and relax a little

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:36

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL Well people are bound to give their opinion on forums, that's something you need to expect. However, if you want to be sure, a forum is not the best place to ask if it involved the law. Maybe you should ask the UAE embassy in the UK?

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:35

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are [b'>reasons [/b'>for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL I think you mean excuses......

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:34

I think there is some major PMT issues here on Expat Woman!! :)It was a simple question and there are some who are getting very personal like they are on the stand without even knowing anything. There are reasons for everything, and only once you know them judgement should be passed. I just wanted to let him know what the rules and regulations are, not the opnions which have already been finalised and dealt with in the UK! I think he may need to consider some of the attitudes here as well!! LOL

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:28

I would love to know why he was banned in the first place. If it was DUI then I would recommend that he seriously re-thinks coming out here Hi, sorry whats DUI? Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were [b'>posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair,[/b'> they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! I think that part of the responsibility of having a driving license is to notify the DVLA if any of your details change, which he didn't - therefore perfectly fair. He hadn't actualy changed his address to a permanent one, he was going from place to place due to separation, hence his post still went to his house (which his ex-wife was living). When he did move he infact did notify DVLA immediately. Yet another excuse......

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:28

Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair, they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! Sounds like he has a lot of excuses - if fines and summonses to appear in court went to the "wrong" address it is because he had failed to update the details on his driving licence as required by law This is also a lot of laws to break - as it is many different convictions It was never said it wasn't his fault, as said, he admitted fault here, no one is perfect, and the price has been paid.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:26

I would love to know why he was banned in the first place. If it was DUI then I would recommend that he seriously re-thinks coming out here Hi, sorry whats DUI? Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were [b'>posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair,[/b'> they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! I think that part of the responsibility of having a driving license is to notify the DVLA if any of your details change, which he didn't - therefore perfectly fair. He hadn't actualy changed his address to a permanent one, he was going from place to place due to separation, hence his post still went to his house (which his ex-wife was living). When he did move he infact did notify DVLA immediately.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:05

But the question OP asked.. Will her friend be able to get a visa? I never had a record check, but I was locally hired. Do most companies do checks or does it depend what sector you work? All my papers were sent to CID for approval before i was formally hired; i had no idea that this took place until 6 months after i started; i was also locally hired. Oh wow maybe they sussed me out then without me knowing.. lol

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:04

But the question OP asked.. Will her friend be able to get a visa? I never had a record check, but I was locally hired. Do most companies do checks or does it depend what sector you work? All my papers were sent to CID for approval before i was formally hired; i had no idea that this took place until 6 months after i started; i was also locally hired.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 15:00

But the question OP asked.. Will her friend be able to get a visa? I never had a record check, but I was locally hired. Do most companies do checks or does it depend what sector you work?

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 14:56

he must have known he had incurred parking fines and was aware of driving in a bus lane...the hands free thing as CA said is well known...sorry but if you are disqualified and an emergency occurs you have to find an alternative - that's the punishment...so not only did he have no insurance but he wasn't even driving his own car !!! sorry OP - wish i could be sympathetic....

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 14:18

All this purely because she asked if he could obtain a licence Gosh i love EW :-) no a visa....lol...pay attention! I did try to change it lol, thats me told ;-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:43

All this purely because she asked if he could obtain a licence Gosh i love EW :-) no a visa....lol...pay attention!

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:41

All this purely because she asked if he could obtain a visa Gosh i love EW :-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:41

All this purely because she asked if he could obtain a licence Gosh i love EW :-)

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:39

I would love to know why he was banned in the first place. If it was DUI then I would recommend that he seriously re-thinks coming out here Hi, sorry whats DUI? Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were [b'>posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair,[/b'> they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! I think that part of the responsibility of having a driving license is to notify the DVLA if any of your details change, which he didn't - therefore perfectly fair. Well spotted Izzy. As for the wired handsfree device, I think that they are banned everywhere now, not new info. But none of this is [b'>[i'>HIS [/i'>[/b'>fault........ God, so sick of people unable to take responsibility for the bad choices that they make....

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:39

Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair, they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! Sounds like he has a lot of excuses - if fines and summonses to appear in court went to the "wrong" address it is because he had failed to update the details on his driving licence as required by law This is also a lot of laws to break - as it is many different convictions

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:35

I would love to know why he was banned in the first place. If it was DUI then I would recommend that he seriously re-thinks coming out here Hi, sorry whats DUI? Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were [b'>posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair,[/b'> they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! I think that part of the responsibility of having a driving license is to notify the DVLA if any of your details change, which he didn't - therefore perfectly fair. Well spotted Izzy. As for the wired handsfree device, I think that they are banned everywhere now, not new info.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:34

I would love to know why he was banned in the first place. If it was DUI then I would recommend that he seriously re-thinks coming out here Hi, sorry whats DUI? Complicated issue, but cutting a long story short, he had a few parking fines and driving in bus lane at wrong time which were [b'>posted to ex wifes address (his old address) so he never received it, had to pay a huge fine for non payment, very unfair,[/b'> they didn;t ban him but gave him 19 points. Then he was stopped for holding using a handsfree (wired device) which apparently illegal in the UK (never knew this) and subsequently banned. The time he drove was just the once when his mother had a seizure and he drove his brothers car to the hospital, someone tipped him off, he was not speeding! I think that part of the responsibility of having a driving license is to notify the DVLA if any of your details change, which he didn't - therefore perfectly fair.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:34

DO they actually take the UK license from you? What if you said it was lost, you can still show it here, as I know for sure that Dubai Traffic dept do not follow up and check on your foreign license.

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Latest post on 13 September 2012 - 13:31

if he doesn't have his driving licence he may find it difficult to get a UAE one and i imagine his employer will need to know why he doesn't have it ?? Unless he needs it for his job why should it matter to his employers if he has one or not? We both have UAE licences but have never driven in Dubai-the taxi works out cheaper for us OP said he has a criminal record as a result of the traffic offense. I think getting a visa is of more concern than getting a driving licence with a criminal record. I can imagine there are 1000's of people here from other countries who have criminal records. I doubt they will check at all. I have heard of several high profile people here who skipped their home countries due to tax evasion and all sorts. As the other poster stated he will need his UK driving licence to be able to drive here. People break the law every day here on the roads the only difference is that they dont get caught :-)

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