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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 16:55

It is the worst I have ever seen a guest treated on the Oprah show today!!!

I could not believe how Oprah allowed Suze to HUMILIATE human being like that! I don't think that people hate Nadia and I was completely blown away by Suze Ormon's cruelty, Nadia has made mistakes and is dealing with the consequences now, I do not hate Nadia, why the world hate Nadia? she is not criminal, or bank robbery? She ask for help, this the way they suppose to treat a woman?

Just watched this episode and never in all my Oprah Show watching years have I ever been so disappointed and disgusted. The tag teaming of questions, then answers, then comments and judgments hurled at this completely insecure and unstable woman was appalling! The overwhelming personalities of Oprah and Suze is enough to unnerve anyone, but to be yelled at and asked some extremely personal and harsh questions in this manner was completely unfair.

What is the point of asking Nadya, "are you a baby addict? yes or no?" How does that help her current situation? We all know that Nadya she make bad choice in her life, it was a mistake and she admitted, she need to move on……. both of them definitely did more harm than good. Is the children who should have been the focus of the interview. What does the future hold for them? How will they live a normal life and receive the care and attention that each child deserves?

Suze is always brash and I usually just grin and bear it, but she was rude and disrespectful and out of line! In no way did either of them have the right to have this woman answer a question no parent should ever be asked; if Nadya would have her kids all over again. And you weren't happy with her first answer she had to answer it THREE times to please the two of them? That broke my heart for her and for her kids. Eventually they will see this and know her horrific if brutally honest answer and God help all of them....
Oprah didn't stand up for Nadya, even when she did not agree with Suze's advice of getting rid of the nannies, just because she's afraid of getting a smack down. Way to go, Oprah. And after Nadya pours her heart out, goes on that tirade, breaks down and admits that she hates herself, all she can say is, "you have answered the question, thank you very much. Good job." Where is the compassion in that and love for a women who is way over her head crying out for help???
It is really breaks my heart!

Check out the Oprah website---the commentary is overwhelmingly…………..

Hudda

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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 27 January 2011 - 08:36
I would love lots of kids too... but don't think I could afford more than two. Though I say this bravely when I'm right now dead scared about bringing this first one into the world (I made the mistake of watching a birth video...lol) :) i know how you feel. while i was pregnant i watched birth videos on youtube every saturday morning and then refused to give birth. don't worry, you'll be fine! I spent the whole of my pregnancy thinking that babies came out your elbow. You can imagine my surprise on discovering differently at the birth itself :D (Birth videos should be banned for causing unneccessary anxiety when it's all inevitable anyway, apparently)
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 12:51
If you look at the BIG picture, Nadia's behavior are symptons of an illness. She clearly has very deep rooted physcological problems. Her behavior is not that of a person that would be considered "normal". Cure the illness, the symptons go away. She doesn't even realize how she's been exploited, as well as exploiting herself.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:29
But when our grandparents were having 14 children, they didn't have all of them so close in age! Managing so many babies is too much for 1 person, even with a helper. I get upset thinking of the babies not getting the attention/love that they deserve. Do you think they would be better off being adopted and seperated? I don't know the answer but just a thought.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:28
I would love lots of kids too... but don't think I could afford more than two. Though I say this bravely when I'm right now dead scared about bringing this first one into the world (I made the mistake of watching a birth video...lol) :) i know how you feel. while i was pregnant i watched birth videos on youtube every saturday morning and then refused to give birth. don't worry, you'll be fine!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:25
I would love lots of kids too... but don't think I could afford more than two. Though I say this bravely when I'm right now dead scared about bringing this first one into the world (I made the mistake of watching a birth video...lol) :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:20
also-- that Egyptian couple who recently had a multiple birth in the UAE. They were given a house I think, right? In all fairness, after reading the Gulf News article, I don't think we can compare the two cases. This couple had been trying for years, but were clearly not ecstatic when they found out they're having sextuplets because they knew the end of their means. Also, they said they want to return home to Egypt so that they can have help caring for the kids, but couldn't afford air tickets...meaning at least they do have some sort of a plan to cope with this without help from strangers. I really don't think it's fair to compare these guys with Octomum, who clearly wants attention too. http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/health/couple-welcomes-sextuplets-but-face-tough-financial-challenge-1.737652 edited by stovetop on 26/01/2011 and I get this too. my desire for a second child right now is pretty strong too, but because of circumstances i have to wait a bit longer to make the decision to continue the process or not. i'm just sensitive beyond reason.
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:18
@GGP The point is that she CAN'T pay for everything? Do you think it's right that tax payers have to fund her medical insurance and welfare checks while she sits at home pondering her next move towards fame? She does not have the financial means to take care of 1 child, much less 14 (sorry, I've lost count). A familiar situation in the US: middle income families, where both parents work 2 part-time jobs each ... and their 1 child doesn't have medical insurance because the combined income of both parents puts them to high. Meanwhile they can't afford private insurance and neither of them get benefits from work. Does that sound right to you? They are doing everything right and can't catch a break...meanwhile Octomom gets benefits because she doesn't have a job and has too many kids to afford childcare so she can (if she could get off her rear) get a job! There's no 2 sides to this story. i agree with you. i do. (really). i just feel uneasy about labeling her so strongly. i haven't slept in two weeks. i cry at the sight of a peach these days.
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:17
GoldinglitterPunk i agree with you, just a few generations ago our grandmums and dads commonly had very large families and werent hauled over the coals by egotistical tv stars, rolling their eyes and preaching rights and wrongs. She's evidently looking after all the children very well, however the means, and besides its the doctors fault not hers - he's the 'intelligent' one who went ahead with the procedure. So wot if she has false eyelashes, ten minutes went on that alone, its was embrasing and humiliating and Im sure her kiddies will be very angry wen they r old enough to see what their mum had to endure on tv.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 11:11
also-- that Egyptian couple who recently had a multiple birth in the UAE. They were given a house I think, right? In all fairness, after reading the Gulf News article, I don't think we can compare the two cases. This couple had been trying for years, but were clearly not ecstatic when they found out they're having sextuplets because they knew the end of their means. Also, they said they want to return home to Egypt so that they can have help caring for the kids, but couldn't afford air tickets...meaning at least they do have some sort of a plan to cope with this without help from strangers. I really don't think it's fair to compare these guys with Octomum, who clearly wants attention too. http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/health/couple-welcomes-sextuplets-but-face-tough-financial-challenge-1.737652 <em>edited by stovetop on 26/01/2011</em>
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 10:54
@GGP The point is that she CAN'T pay for everything? Do you think it's right that tax payers have to fund her medical insurance and welfare checks while she sits at home pondering her next move towards fame? She does not have the financial means to take care of 1 child, much less 14 (sorry, I've lost count). A familiar situation in the US: middle income families, where both parents work 2 part-time jobs each ... and their 1 child doesn't have medical insurance because the combined income of both parents puts them to high. Meanwhile they can't afford private insurance and neither of them get benefits from work. Does that sound right to you? They are doing everything right and can't catch a break...meanwhile Octomom gets benefits because she doesn't have a job and has too many kids to afford childcare so she can (if she could get off her rear) get a job! There's no 2 sides to this story.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 10:42
also-- that Egyptian couple who recently had a multiple birth in the UAE. They were given a house I think, right?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 10:41
@GoldenGlitterPunk I think everyone is within their rights to have children. However, there needs to be some sort of ethical decision making on the part of doctors. When you go to adopt a child, financial considerations, psychological state, criminal background and familial support system are taken into account -- and you can be denied if you don't meet the requirements. Why not for fertility treatments -- it takes considerable amount of money and attention to raise just one child and exponentially more for multiples. Where are the child advocates in this matter? Where is Gloria Allred championing civil rights for these children instead of the famewhoring Tiger Woods mistresses? Octomom is a single mother with kids...and wanted MORE? Well it doesn't matter what she wanted, she couldn't take care of them. We hear about those nice old grandmas who just LOVES cats. Can't see one on the street without bringing it into her home...aww how sweet. Until she has 100 cats stuffed into her disgustingly dirty house, with no one there to help take care of them, urine and feces splayed everywhere, cats with infections because she can't keep track, etc. What happens...the authorities come and take them away from her for neglect and inability to care for the animals. It is in the best interest of her and the animals. [b'>Why? Because having civil liberties doesn't allow you to endanger the health, happiness and lives of other living beings just so you are satisfied.[/b'> i get that. i do. but what i've seen of her kids on the oprah clips, her kids seem happy and taken care of. as long as she finds a way to pay for the upkeep or makes the arrangements she does---i really don't see a big deal. the septuplets still do interviews with ladies home journal from time to time. and they get some pretty good state assistance too.
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 10:37
@GoldenGlitterPunk I think everyone is within their rights to have children. However, there needs to be some sort of ethical decision making on the part of doctors. When you go to adopt a child, financial considerations, psychological state, criminal background and familial support system are taken into account -- and you can be denied if you don't meet the requirements. Why not for fertility treatments -- it takes considerable amount of money and attention to raise just one child and exponentially more for multiples. Where are the child advocates in this matter? Where is Gloria Allred championing civil rights for these children instead of the famewhoring Tiger Woods mistresses? Octomom is a single mother with kids...and wanted MORE? Well it doesn't matter what she wanted, she couldn't take care of them. We hear about those nice old grandmas who just LOVES cats. Can't see one on the street without bringing it into her home...aww how sweet. Until she has 100 cats stuffed into her disgustingly dirty house, with no one there to help take care of them, urine and feces splayed everywhere, cats with infections because she can't keep track, etc. What happens...the authorities come and take them away from her for neglect and inability to care for the animals. It is in the best interest of her and the animals. [b'>Why? Because having civil liberties doesn't allow you to endanger the health, happiness and lives of other living beings just so you are satisfied.[/b'>
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 09:40
What I do not understand is a cultural set of medical ethics which allows an unscrupulous quack to perform the implantions. without prosecution or at least peer condemnation........where is the AMA in all of this? Here's a link to a story in the LA times. The doctor was brought before a disciplinary committee. [url=http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/10/opening-statements-underway-in-medical-board-hearing-for-octomom-doctor.html'>link[/url'> The AMA doesn't regulate doctors, its done by state licensing boards. And what he did is well outside of any normal cultural medical ethics - anywhere! Why on earth her doctor didnt immediately refer her to a psychiatrist is beyond me. Although, the more people talk about this, the more I'm starting to think that Suleiman is crazy like a fox and deliberately working all these angles (her poverty, Oprah & Suze being mean to her, using the word addiction etc. etc.) to increase her profile and marketability.... Just a thought...
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 06:15
Gee, I dunno. I feel that she felt she needed to have the children. I would really love a ton of kids. My husband and I have agreed on 4. Some of them will be our own, and perhaps we'll be lucky enough to adopt one or two. If we can financially take care of more children, I'm pretty sure we would love to adopt. I love the idea of a big family, I love the way my little boy feels in my arms...but our son is currently speech delayed and we're waiting for proper assessments to see what further assistance he'll need growing up...perhaps we may not be able to have more children, so that we can ensure to give our son the attention he needs. I think the Nadya may have figured that the general American public would be more sympathetic to her and her need to have many more children. I remember when the septuplets were born in Iowa (I think 1997) and No one really too much of an issue with them. They already had a child before too. Granted a total of 8 children is not 14, but realistically the general trend these days is 'you should be happy with at least the one/ones you have'. What if you just want more? my grandmother had 11 children! My other grandmother had 13! I feel like a major reason Nadya wasn't welcomed as much as any other multiple birth family was simply because she had them during a bad economy. It was 2008 and more and more women were having children without being in relationships. They felt their time was running out and they just didn't feel like waiting around for prince charming. So perhaps Nadya decided not to wait around for some guy to show up...it was the debt that she accumulated that disgusted people...as well as the fact that she wasn't working. I think one of her children also has some form of Autism which would make working kind of hard if she was the full time carer. Not to mention the other 6 kids. I don't agree with her choice, but she had a right to make it and I don't think she deserves the double standards either. I think Oprah and Suze were very mean. I don't understand the fervent hatred. I really don't.
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Latest post on 26 January 2011 - 00:01
i am worried for the kids with the unstable woman - she is a fantacist I think they just got frustrated with all th lies octomom comes out with all the time-like saying she had saved up for the 8 babies (while on disability for 10 years) when someone else paid for it i guess they felt that they were trying tohelp her when she claims to be destitute yet she won't tell the truth and invents a lie tomake herself feel better .... the doctors disciplinary hearing last year was inteesting as it exposed her lies - she has always claimed that she wanted to use her frozen embryos -but the records showed this was a lie - she had new embryos created and requested 12 were implanted - i think th doctor should be paying her child support I also wonder where all the money has gone - she earned millions - yet did not pay for her house and one of the octuplets STILL has not had cleft lip surgery and is now 2
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 22:18
What I do not understand is a cultural set of medical ethics which allows an unscrupulous quack to perform the implantions. without prosecution or at least peer condemnation........where is the AMA in all of this? It is disgusting and horrific that this doctor isn't stripped of his license and prosecuted. These innocent children who are facing daily ridicule, poverty and potentially homelessness...at the hands of their fame-whoring mother. I abhor this woman.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 22:16
Don't forget that the three of them were probably in it together to get more ratings. For the Oprah show or for the new octomum reality show?? I think Oprah and Suze did it on purpose to try and garner some sympathy for the woman in anticipation of her launching a reality TV show.... :\: She's planning her own show? That was the point of the Oprah show.... Ocotmom started out by saying she was financially destitute but didn't want to put her kids in a reality show... brought in suze to help with the finances who told her to get an agent and get a show because, as suze put it, exploiting your kids on TV is better than them being hungry and homeless. So there is obviously a reality tv show in the works and this Oprah episode was designed to garner some sympathy for her before it's launched.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 22:13
Don't forget that the three of them were probably in it together to get more ratings. For the Oprah show or for the new octomum reality show?? I think Oprah and Suze did it on purpose to try and garner some sympathy for the woman in anticipation of her launching a reality TV show.... :\: She's planning her own show?
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 22:09
Don't forget that the three of them were probably in it together to get more ratings. For the Oprah show or for the new octomum reality show?? I think Oprah and Suze did it on purpose to try and garner some sympathy for the woman in anticipation of her launching a reality TV show.... :\:
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EW GURU
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 22:06
I agree Oprah and Suze did come down hard on Octomum, but I cannot get myself to feel sorry for her. Has she ever thought about what will happen to the 14 kids if their mum suddenly dies or something? She said something about how she felt only a child (or 14) could give her unconditional love and acceptance and frankly, I thought that was a selfish factor to bring in 14 kids into the world. Sure, a lot of people have the same reason to give birth, but they usually have less than 14 kids.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 21:31
I would feel sorry for someone who didn't put themselves in such a situation...there are a ton of people that I would rather lend my sympathy to for meeting hard times: - the American soldiers who are deep in debt after being targeted for high-interest lending schemes - war veterans who are alcoholics and drug abusers...living on the streets Those are people who are down and have made mistakes... Octomom had children already...was on welfare...single...no support system. Just because you are stressed and stupid doesn't mean you are mentally ill -- that is a medical diagnosis and a serious thing. Not something you throw around as an excuse for your life mistakes! I agree with you Gleeky (shock...horror!!) The woman is totally barking mad......but not in a way that precludes her doing exactly what she wants to further her insatiable desire for fame. What I do not understand is a cultural set of medical ethics which allows an unscrupulous quack to perform the implantions. without prosecution or at least peer condemnation........where is the AMA in all of this? And, almost as culpable are TV personalities like Oprah who give sad sacks like this woman the oxygen of publicity........it will only serve to encourage another borderline personality lackwit to try to emulate this walking cluster. And all for ratings.....
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 20:41
Don't forget that the three of them were probably in it together to get more ratings.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 19:38
completely insecure and unstable woman That says it all and it was so obvious. Oprah kept on asking her if she had any plastic surgery done. Nadia insisted NO! when it is obvious she had her lips done. She was all curled up within herself during the "interrogation". Oprah perceives herself as an arm-chair psychiatrist, but this girl needs professional help - something she should have had long before she started having children. By her own admission having babies was filling something "empty" in her. OK, one or two children can fix that, but 14!!!! Nadia is desperate and has been out of control. I would like to think that she truly believes that she is in over her head. Nadia got paid and Oprah got a show - win/win. Suzy's advice: get an agent - make a movie, write a book, pimp your kids - do what you have to do to take care of yourself. How about: see a professional doctor and get fixed!!!!
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 19:37
I would feel sorry for someone who didn't put themselves in such a situation...there are a ton of people that I would rather lend my sympathy to for meeting hard times: - the American soldiers who are deep in debt after being targeted for high-interest lending schemes - war veterans who are alcoholics and drug abusers...living on the streets Those are people who are down and have made mistakes... Octomom had children already...was on welfare...single...no support system. Just because you are stressed and stupid doesn't mean you are mentally ill -- that is a medical diagnosis and a serious thing. Not something you throw around as an excuse for your life mistakes!
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 19:25
oh please. I haven't seen the show but what did she expect? That they would hold her hand and tell her she's the best mom in the world?? She wants to be in the limelight so she better be prepared to take what they dish out. Honestly I think she has major issues and I feel sorry for her poor kids. Lets remember that the kids are really the victims here. You can see it on Youtube. Sulaiman is clearly unwell and clearly obsessed with celebrity as much as with having children but Suze Orman was NASTY and not even slightly compassionate when dealing with an obviously mentally ill woman. Her tone is mean and badgering. The whole thing was just shocking. It made Sulaiman more sympathetic and made Suze Orman look like a horrible (*itchy crone. I have to agree with you, Faifunghi. Octomum is not the most stable person but for them to kick her when she's down is just mean. I had to change the channel.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 19:23
oh please. I haven't seen the show but what did she expect? That they would hold her hand and tell her she's the best mom in the world?? She wants to be in the limelight so she better be prepared to take what they dish out. Honestly I think she has major issues and I feel sorry for her poor kids. Lets remember that the kids are really the victims here. You can see it on Youtube. Sulaiman is clearly unwell and clearly obsessed with celebrity as much as with having children but Suze Orman was NASTY and not even slightly compassionate when dealing with an obviously mentally ill woman. Her tone is mean and badgering. The whole thing was just shocking. It made Sulaiman more sympathetic and made Suze Orman look like a horrible (*itchy crone.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 19:20
zedzee, that's exactly what I said on the other post like this. (incidentally made by the same OP). I know it's the Oprah show but did she expect a car and shopping spree? And you are going on w/ Suze Orman...do a little research before you go on with her, she's not exactly a "let's hug it out" personality.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 18:14
I thought it was just revolting that Suze Orman was saying over and over how she came on the show to talk about 'judgment' and that the culture of judging everyone's choices and behavior is so wrong. And then she proceeded to judge, humiliate and excoriate the poor woman. For my money, Ms. Sulieman has some serious psychological problems and needs help! Not this nastiness that they were calling tough love.. That was one of the grossest things I've ever seen on TV, I hope her kids never see it.
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Latest post on 25 January 2011 - 17:26
i agree so much, couldnt believe my eyes the way they were treating her, and its true they are such Big personalities the poor woman didnt stand a chance, ok she has her issues but what a beating she took... such intimidating looks and sneers from Suze. So disapointing :(
 
 

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