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Moving to RAK in April need advice please

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 03:27

HI All
We are moving out to RAK in APril I've got a job working for HCT there. I have some questions I'd love to ask and see if you have any advice. Many thanks.

Both my husband and I have lived abroad and travelled a lot but we have decided to take the plunge now we are a family. We are moving out to RAK with our 2 year old son. We figure this is the best time before he starts school. We are looking for care for him but it's tricky from the UK. Anyone have experience of the Little Oxford Nursery? It looks very cute adn I'm interested in sending him there. Also we would liek to consider getting an au pair or nanny, any advice where to start?

I'll be working full time and have heard + and - about HCT WC any views? We are moving out for my job but my husband doesn't have anything yet. He has MSc in engineering design and 10 years experience in exhibitions but is finding it difficult to find a job from here in UK. We are really hoping things will get better once we move out, again any advice would be fabulous.

How about the accommodation out there? Can anyone give advice on what might be offered by my work? Is it worth us transporting our goods out with us, TVs furniture etc... We definitely want to bring out our son's stuff, his bed and toys etc... We'll be renting our place out in the UK, but 4 years in our little 3 bed house and now moving away from something we have done up and made the way we like it.

We'd love to join a health club and the Cove looks fab and reasonable to join. We are happy to be coming to RAK, a friend of mine lived there for 5 years and loved it and we aren't looking for the hustle and bustle of a big city like Dubai, but can enjoy it with a short drive.

Thanks so much for reading and any advice you can give.

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 February 2011 - 22:38
Thank-you all so much that puts my mind at rest a tiny bit... so next Q. Looking at Little Oxford Nursery looks so cute any experience of it? Also would you recommend bringing our furniture out with us our getting stuff when we get there? DH wants to leave it here just in case he can't work and we end up having to come back home!!!! But I dearly want to bring our toddler's stuff with us and if we're bringing a load for him might as well bring some of ours too.... Hope you're all well? K x
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 16:11
the areas on Al Filayah Road (sp) i used to have a friend living in the Granada compound last year and the villas looked good and spacious. Also some villa's have private pools and compound pools. Lots of European families with children most of the kids go to RAKESS (BC) or RAKESS (PYP) school literally opposite each other and theres a number of nursery's in that area.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 15:59
If my memory serves me right, I think the Granada complex/compound is close the the lantern roundabout and RAK Hospital, don't know the exact name of the area though. If that is correct you will need transport to and from, approx 10min to carrfour or safeer mall. Worldgirl is correct. There is absolutely no relationship or comparison to the Al Mina complex. The one you've been assigned is a stand alone complex without much of anything around it (except a white wall). Even a taxi can be tough to get from there. However, it is on a main road and is the closest to the WC of all the Grenadas. It isn't a new complex and I don't know how well it has been maintained over the past 2 yrs. It is an easy shot down the road to a major grocery store that's located in Manar Mall. If you go along the same road in the opposite direction you'll be headed toward Digdaga and the RAK International (ha, ha) Airport.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 15:06
If my memory serves me right, I think the Granada complex/compound is close the the lantern roundabout and RAK Hospital, don't know the exact name of the area though. If that is correct you will need transport to and from, approx 10min to carrfour or safeer mall.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 14:43
Okey Dokey, thought the Mina Al Arab Granadas looked too good to be true. I can't find any images or info on the others, do you know them? Or would you know where I might be able to find some information about them? Do you know what part of town they are in? I'm thinking about transportation / access, to college, for the toddler etc... thanks
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 14:43
Okey Dokey, thought the Mina Al Arab Granadas looked too good to be true. I can't find any images or info on the others, do you know them? Or would you know where I might be able to find some information about them? Do you know what part of town they are in? I'm thinking about transportation / access, to college, for the toddler etc... thanks
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 14:14
No, there are different Granadas. There's Granada 1 and 2 compounds, and there's an area of Mina Al Arab called Granada.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 14:11
You're all so lovely thank-you so very much for your replies and advice. Praise be the internet, it does have some very good uses too :-) Just another quickie... We've just had our accommodation confirmed. Granada 1 in RAK a 3 bed villa with parking space. I can't seem to find any info about this, only stuff in Mina Al Arab. Is it the same? Any info would be grately appreciated. Also if any of you are in RAK maybe I could invite you for a coffee to say thanks for all the good advice. K x
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 09:42
Your husband's biggest problem is that he will probably be competing against a large pool of similarly qualified people from the subcontinent who are willing to work for much less than your husband may be willing to accept. I would have thought HCT would have been willing to hire you both (they do offer an engineering program in some colleges - don't know about RAK). Commuting to Dubai may become old really fast if traffic is an issue (but others may be able to comment on that better than I) - it's not bad in off peak hours but during peak times might become fairly stressful. That's a good point, if your husband would be willing to teach when you get on the ground HCT may hire your husband as well... Not sure about RAK but HCT Abu Dhabi used to help spouses to get a job in the other campus, e.g. one works in the WC and spouse in the MC. Definitely worth asking if they can get him something in the MC. You will be saving them money as they will only have to pay the house allowance once :)
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 08:36
Your husband's biggest problem is that he will probably be competing against a large pool of similarly qualified people from the subcontinent who are willing to work for much less than your husband may be willing to accept. I would have thought HCT would have been willing to hire you both (they do offer an engineering program in some colleges - don't know about RAK). Commuting to Dubai may become old really fast if traffic is an issue (but others may be able to comment on that better than I) - it's not bad in off peak hours but during peak times might become fairly stressful. That's a good point, if your husband would be willing to teach when you get on the ground HCT may hire your husband as well...
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 07:35
Your husband's biggest problem is that he will probably be competing against a large pool of similarly qualified people from the subcontinent who are willing to work for much less than your husband may be willing to accept. I would have thought HCT would have been willing to hire you both (they do offer an engineering program in some colleges - don't know about RAK). Commuting to Dubai may become old really fast if traffic is an issue (but others may be able to comment on that better than I) - it's not bad in off peak hours but during peak times might become fairly stressful.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 15 February 2011 - 06:04
Ah, ok. My apologies - from your first post it sounded to me like you'd accepted a job without knowing the package that came with it but that's clearly not the case, thank goodness :) Your DH should look further afield into Ajman and Sharajh. They're not as convenient as RAK but still very easily do-able on a daily basis. (I know pwoplw whi take their kids to school in Sharjah and on the Dubai/Sharjah border).
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 23:15
Wow thank-you all so much you've been incredible with your advice. The college are paying for us to go out, sponsoring me and my husband and son. Flights, health care and accommodation all included for all of us, plus relocation allowance. The money is almost the same as I am on in UK for a basic lecturing position and here I'm a Deputy Head, so I think it could be worth it. I posted on here as I'm having no joy at all hearing from the HR dept, not sure if it's a cultural thing and they just take time to get back to me? We're coming out in April but naturally if we need to transport stuff we need to get that sorted now as shipping can take up to 2 months. DH has been looking for work from UK but no joy so far. He is looking in Dubai and would want to commute I think, but until that time he'll have the boy and get us set up. He's and advanced design engineer with lots of experience in exhibitions, but also in manufacturing. He has his MSc, but it looks to be just as tricky there as here to get work? We are honestly worried about that. SD thanks so much for the links to the forum will defo get on that one. It's so good to hear from you all and to hear nice things about RAK I have been getting slightly cold feet about the move. But LO is 2 so seems like a good time to take the plunge. MaryCatherine thanks for all the info very helpful. Glasgo2010 so you've just taken the plunge too? Hope it's going well? We are thinking the same once we are set up if he can't find work he can continue his freelance for the UK, still we would prefer to have the security of a job. We don't want o make cultural assumptions but my husband is British COlombian and his 1st degree is from COlombia, his MSc from UK. But he's worried he might not be hearing because of his name and fact he's not "pure British" are we unecessarily worrying? thanks. Thanks also Ms.K helpful comments, I do hope we'll settle and looking forward to the time we are going to get together as a family (our main motivation for moving) as at the moment we spend most of our time at work and travelling 3 hrs a day to and from... Loo forward to hearing more from you all. K
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 09:54
I sponsor my husband and children and didn't have a problem, company paid everything. We have been in Dubai 7 months now and my DH has still not found work, luckily (financially) he can work from home for UK clients but he is really missing the daily interaction with other adults. I don't want to be negative but you really have to consider the prospect of DH not working, once our house was all set up DH got bored, quickly! I work within a HCT campus (not for HCT or their companies) and I believe couples with one child receive a 2 bedroom apartment but maybe that is just Dubai. Re Health Club, check whether the college has one, if so I would use this until you get settled - as SD says unless you have a pot of money behind you be careful with cash as set up fees can be high. Don't want to comment on working for the college as I am not one of their employees. I hope it all works out, :) As a visitor I really like the feel of RAK and loads of new houses being built Yes, the housing situation for HCT RAK is different from that of Dubai, but perhaps in a better way if you're looking for more space or don't prefer apartment living. Unfortunately, your DH will struggle to find work in RAK and it may never happen unless he's willing to commute to Dubai. The exhibition centre in RAK is a hum drum affair and only hosts small scale events that cater to the local population. However, there were plans for a state of the art convention centre, but with the economic downturn I assume these have been scrapped. Needless to say, your DH is likely to feel very bored. The only dependent husband I knew of in RAK left 2 weeks ago and he only lived in RAK part-time. If your DH is going to be a stay at home dad, I'd suggest he take responsibility for your DS instead of sending him to school or hiring a nanny. As has been mentioned, HCT RAK has changed considerably over the past two years and many would say not for the better. Most of my friends who worked there have elected to move on as they were so disillusioned by the changes. As a place to live, RAK is wonderful. The expat community has grown significantly, but you can still interact with locals and enjoy the surroundings. I miss RAK!
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 09:54
HCT provides all rental fees and a 30000 AED furnishing allowance. You'll have to pay for the utilities hook ups/deposits (water, electric, Etisalat, TV, internet etc.) up front. HCT also assists in arranging and paying for the spouse's and child's RPs the first time around (but not if you decide to stay on after your first contract). Check the education allowance offered, it should cover one child at a decent school at this age. Don't know much about schools though. Flights and medical are included in your package. If you are unhappy in your first accomodation, there is usually the opportunity to switch come June as others move on - however it is at your expense and you are given a specific budget depending on marital status and number of children. If you exceed that budget, you pay for it. Moving in June is a pain because it's hot hot hot. RAK was always one of the better HCT campuses (and HCT was considered one of the more desirable jobs, not so much anymore) - some campuses have become very "unhappy" , shall we say, places to work recently and unfortuately it seems to be spreading (Al Ain being one of those). Hopefully RAK will avoid the worst of it. edited by marycatherine on 14/02/2011 You won't get school fees for 2yo, think school fees only kick in when LO is either 4.5 or 5. ETA: you're able to be the sponsor for your husband and child, and HCT does assist with this, think HCT pays for the first time you sponsor husband and child, which should last 3 years, when/if you renew you'll need to pay about 1000AED for both husband and child (unless prices change by then) to renew their visas if you're still sponsoring them. <em>edited by AdviceSeeker on 14/02/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 09:24
I sponsor my husband and children and didn't have a problem, company paid everything. We have been in Dubai 7 months now and my DH has still not found work, luckily (financially) he can work from home for UK clients but he is really missing the daily interaction with other adults. I don't want to be negative but you really have to consider the prospect of DH not working, once our house was all set up DH got bored, quickly! I work within a HCT campus (not for HCT or their companies) and I believe couples with one child receive a 2 bedroom apartment but maybe that is just Dubai. Re Health Club, check whether the college has one, if so I would use this until you get settled - as SD says unless you have a pot of money behind you be careful with cash as set up fees can be high. Don't want to comment on working for the college as I am not one of their employees. I hope it all works out, :) As a visitor I really like the feel of RAK and loads of new houses being built
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 07:10
HCT provides all rental fees and a 30000 AED furnishing allowance. You'll have to pay for the utilities hook ups/deposits (water, electric, Etisalat, TV, internet etc.) up front. HCT also assists in arranging and paying for the spouse's and child's RPs the first time around (but not if you decide to stay on after your first contract). Check the education allowance offered, it should cover one child at a decent school at this age. Don't know much about schools though. Flights and medical are included in your package. If you are unhappy in your first accomodation, there is usually the opportunity to switch come June as others move on - however it is at your expense and you are given a specific budget depending on marital status and number of children. If you exceed that budget, you pay for it. Moving in June is a pain because it's hot hot hot. RAK was always one of the better HCT campuses (and HCT was considered one of the more desirable jobs, not so much anymore) - some campuses have become very "unhappy" , shall we say, places to work recently and unfortuately it seems to be spreading (Al Ain being one of those). Hopefully RAK will avoid the worst of it. <em>edited by marycatherine on 14/02/2011</em>
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 06:36
I've just re-read your post and would urge you very strongly to do a lot more research on what you've accepted. Unless you're on a rock star salary it's not as simple as landing here and waiting for everything to fall into place. Although rents in RAK are a lot cheaper than Dubai, the cost of living for everything else is pretty much the same. If your husband is not working (there is the RAK Exhibition Centre, but I don't know anything about it) will he be doing visa runs or will you be sponsoring him? If he's going to do visa runs while he's out of work he won't be able to get a driving licence and is unlikely to be able to drive a private vehicle. I have heard that it is possible but I wouldn't guarantee it. He won't be able to buy a car, take a loan - basically you will be responsible for everything. If you will be sponsoring him, who will pay for his (and your son's) sponsorship costs? Will you have a housing allowance, if so, how much? Will they pay for schooling? I know your son is not school age but he will be in a few years if you intend staying. You have a choice of 1 school, IB or British Curriculum. Have you discussed medical insurance? Flights home? Do you have a pot of money behind you for the move? You will be expected to pay a security deposit on your rental property. It's not cheap to set up out here and the first 6 months can be a huge financial drain. I don't want to scare you, but you do need to look very closely at your decision and make sure it's the right one. good luck. <em>edited by Sanddy_Dogg on 14/02/2011</em>
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 05:57
Hi Kmarbar, I suggest you direct your questions to your HR department, they should be able to put you in touch with other colleagues who have first hand experience which would be related exactly to you. Also, they'll be able to put you in touch with the people who arrange housing etc so they can tell you exactly what your options might be... They can also let you know about the furniture allowance etc that you'll be entitled to. YOu may choose to use it for shipping your stuff rather than buying from here. RAK is quite a quiet place, but people who I know who live there love it, its a quiet tight knit community... HCT is a decent employer btw so you'll be fine with them. Don't know about what kind of work your husband would be able to find in RAK sorry....
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 14 February 2011 - 05:55
I would advise you to join this forum http://ras-al-khaimah.ning.com/ There are ladies on there with young children. Also take a look at http://rakpedia.com/ as there's plenty of info on there. Many people post info or ask for info on this group http://groups.google.com/group/rak-expats?lnk=srg&hl=en
 
 

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