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Any advice to help a windy baby?

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 January 2012 - 15:41

My DD is 6 weeks old and very windy and constipated. She was breastfeed for the first 2 weeks but unfortunately I was not able to continue any longer. She was then getting expressed breast milk and topped up with formula. Over the last few weeks my supply has dramatically decreased. I am not able to express frequently enough as am home alone with my baby and don't find the time to express and feed her, entertain her etc etc so I am now only expressing twice a day and getting only around 50ml each time.

Since she has been mostly formula fed she has become VERY windy and constipated. When she was breastfed she would produce 4 or 5 dirty nappies a day. She now does one a day or sometimes every other day. Its really distressing as she screams and really clenches her fists and throws her arms and legs around. Sometimes she is so bad that she even does it in her sleep (when I have finally comforted her enough to go to sleep). I hate seeing her like this and feel extremely guilty as I know it's my fault that she is feeling like this. I spend most days crying :(

I have spoken to a peadiatrician who advised this is normal for formula fed babies and said I could try lactose free milk (she currently has lactase enzyme drops in her feed twice a day as recommended by a midwife). Im not too keen to put her on lactose free milk as I have also been advised by another peadiatrician that unless she has blood in her stools or severe diarrhoea or vomiting then she is not lactose intolerent.

When she originally started this I was advised to give her infacol before every feed. I was then advised the infacol would be making the problem worse as it contains sugar which would add to the already undigested sugar in her stomach and she should have the lactase enzyme drops to help break down the sugar. She currently has these in her feed twice a day and I also give her gripe water when she is really bad.

I was hoping that there might be someone else who has had a similar problem and can recommend something? I am quite happy to change to a different formula but dont want to change through all the different brands and risk making the problem worse. Does anybody know a good brand that has helped their baby suffer less? She is currently on S26 gold.

I really need to do something as I can't carry on seeing her so uncomfortable and the lack of sleep is not helping me either and just makes me cry even more :( I just want her to feel comfortable so she can be happy and we can enjoy each other more.

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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 20 January 2012 - 15:46
I think you count it as constipation based on how the poo looks, rather than how often your baby goes. Its normal for an EBF baby to only poo once a week (or longer, for my guy from about 10 weeks it was very 8-9 days, until we started solids) but its also normal if an EBF baby goes daily. I think there are different "guidelines" when a baby is FF, but again, look to the poo more than the timing. Grunty red- strainy faces when pooping are not an issue at all but crying etc isn't really normal. Burping for us was best achieved by a variation or the torso-twist below. We would sit DS up and rock his upper buddy in a circle, a bit like a sitting down hula dance. If no burp we would lie him flat on his back and sit him up a few times. Another thing to consider is at 6 weeks most babies reach a peak in unsettled behaviour anyway, so it might not be due to the formula, or to gas, constipation etc at all. She might be going through a growth spurt and be a bit hungrier than usual, want to cluster feed etc. My DS def had an unsettled week or two around the 6 week mark (right when MIL came to stay which was less than ideal :( ) and he was EBF the whole time. So you might find in a week or two things have settled back down regardless.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 20 January 2012 - 12:25
Kts 2 small tips I can offer... Hope they help. The first is that I learned from one of the books I read that an easy way to get a stuck burp up is: hold your baby facing you in a sitting upright position. Gently twist the upper torso about 30-45 degrees left, hold for a couple of seconds and then bring round to the right. And repeat about 2 or 3 times. This is meant to help the burp up by working on the diaphragm. Can't remember exactly where I read this I think it was one of the supernanny lady's books. Anyway it used to work for my little girl when nothing else did. The other thing is an old home remedy to help things out the other end :). Lie your baby down on her back and push her knees up against her chest (the same way you would if you were huggin your knees). Hold for a few seconds and then release and repeat about 5-10 times. Worked so well for the little lady that sometimes she'd start fire before I was done! ;) Don't be afraid to put a little pressure.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 19 January 2012 - 22:23
Thanks for your responses ladies. TanyaR it is interesting to know that your baby was fed on breast milk and only had a poo every 3-4 days, I really did assume that it was because of the formula that my DD was going less frequently - not due to her body functions regulating. From what you have said I am now not 100% sure that she is constipated however she does make a lot of grunting noises when she goes and seems quite uncomfortable. I also am not able to get her to burp by sitting her on my knee and am only successful sometimes when she is on my shoulder - I will give the tiger in a tree a go and see if I am more successful. With regards to the expressing - I really am not able to do it more frequently as I find that as soon as I go to do it my DD starts to cry or needs feeding again etc so I never seem to get round to it. I am aware that my supply will disappear completely soon and am afraid that it already has (only got about 25ml last night and not had a chance to expres yet today) so unfortunately I need to accept that my dd will be only formula fed from now on :( I will consider contacting cecile - I might see how the next week or so goes and then get in contact if I am still really struggling. Kiwispiers - I did try to latch my dd back onto my breast a couple of weeks back when the guilt was really killing me and she seemed to latch really well (I had my latch checked by a LC in the first couple of weeks and they said it was really good - there was no pain at all) she latched on just like she did in the beginning as though she had never had a bottle. I was so happy with this and really thought that it would lead back to me exclusively breastfeeding. Unfortunately this was not the case. The original reason that I stopped breastfeeding was due to severe tears in my nipples (big holes!!) that were constantly bleeding, I also had mastitis which lead to 3 abscesses (extremely painful) and every time I latched my dd on I was screaming in agony and crying. She was going through a growth spurt and feeding literally all day and I just could not bare the pain any longer. I believed that by me being distressed it would rub off onto her and just make the situation even worse. Anyway - when I did latch her on a couple of weeks ago I guess my nipples were still not completely healed as the pain was still very bad and I really could not face going through the whole nightmare and stress again. As you suggest - I will try working my way through different formula and see if this makes a difference. I changed last night and so far today has been a whole lot better (don't want to speak too soon though!!!) I will see how that goes and then remember your point about the hydrolized formula. I am already massaging her tummy after a nice warm bath and am doing the bicycle movements with her legs but it doesn't seem to be making any difference. She does tend to settle when I lay her on her belly over my lap and pat and rub her back. M - I really feel for you having suffered for 4 months with your dd. Fingers crossed I will get the issue sorted before that as I really don't think I can cope with it for that long! Thanks again for your help ladies :)
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 18 January 2012 - 18:07
I'm with Kiwi on this one (cow's milk protein) as my DD had very bad problems with formula (we tried seven different brands) until putting her onto S26HA when she was about 4 months old. Imagine, it took us 4 months to find the right formula for her and she was suffering quite badly with gas and had silent reflux at the same time. I also couldn't BF despite wanting to.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 18 January 2012 - 17:36
If you'd like to try getting her back on the breast its definitely not too late and there are lactation consultants who can be a tremendous help with this. If you want to keep expressing then buying/borrowing a good quality double pump will save you a lot of time and you may find you get better letdown too, there is also a donor breastmilk program in UAE but I don't know much about how you access it. She is [i'>unlikely[/i'> to be lactose intolerant (there is lactose in breastmilk too) but she may have an issue with cows milk protein in which case she would need to move to a hydrolyzed formula. They taste pretty different so you might want to try sooner than later as older babies often reject the taste. There are lots of other bits and pieces in formula that can upset their tummies so it might be a matter of working your way through a few (giving each one a few weeks). Probiotics can also be helpful for tummy upsets in general. As far as relieving gas, a warm bath and a tummy massage is great, lots of tummy time and a good kick helps them work it out, laying her on her back and moving her legs in a bicycle motion. As they get older they move more and have much less of a problem with trapped gas. Don't blame yourself for breastfeeding not working out, but do seek help if you think you want to bring back your supply, even just a little breast milk will be great for her.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 18 January 2012 - 17:36
The first few weeks are so, so tough - I completely sympathise, and it is difficult to say what is happening from a post, but from what you have said, these are my thoughts.... I think in your first couple of weeks, there are lots of nappy changes, so the 4-5 a day is quite normal in the beginning - and I wouldn't necessarily say the reduction in her frequency of dirty nappies is due to the change from breastmilk to formula, it is just her body functions regulating. Breastfed babies actually produce less poo nappies, because breastmilk is a far more effecient nutritionally, and therefore far less waste is generated and therefore less nappies. So my DS (100% express breastmilk) only had a poo nappy every 3-4 days when he was a baby, and this was completely normal for him - he was not demonstrating any signs of discomfort when he was trying to go the toilet, so wasn't constipated. I think people seem to worry that if they are not going once a day, this is definitely constipation, and this isn't the case in a small baby. So, it may not be that she is both constipated and struggling with wind (although she could be) She should be quite a windy baby, which does happen with bottle fed babies because of the air in the bottle, which clearly you don't have when they are drinking from a breast. DS was bottle fed - although 100% expressed breastmilk for the first 9-10months, and therefore in the beginning, it became quite an artform establishing how to best burp him. He didn't need to just burp once, he needed several burps. He had positions that worked best for him, sitting up on my knee, with my hand on his chest and rubbing his back did not work, propping him up on my shoulder did, tiger in a tree (you will need to google a picture for that one!) worked sometimes as well. RE: the expressing, it is really, really hard (and very timeconsuming) work. Your body produces as much breastmilk as you need for your baby, in order to trigger the production of milk (and for your body to know how much you need), your have to get rid of it (either through the baby drinking it directly - the most effecient method) or through an expressing machine. If you don't use it, your body doesn't produce it, which is why you are only getting 50mls a time. I can't remember how much I was expressing at 6 weeks, but my 'guess' would be I would have been expressing around 8 times day (at regular intervals) for between 45 mins to an hour each time (even during the night) to ensure I was producing enough milk for DS. Once you start subsituting in formula, your body starts producing less because you aren't using what it is producing... Unless you start to increase the frequency and duration of your expressing, it will continue to deplete until it stops completely. There is no right or wrong as to whether you continue expressing, but hopefully that gives you a guideline of what you need to be doing if you are expressing. At 6 weeks, I would probably have someone to come and see you and assess exactly what is going on to give you some peace of mind. I didn't do this with DS, and really regret that I struggled along on my own trying to guess what is going on... I am pregnant and about to have No 2, so I will definitely be getting in touch with someone if I have any issues. One of the people that is regularly recommended on here is Cecile de Scaly (I think that is her name) - I have had a few friends use her and say she is very good, and this is who I will be contacting if I have any issues. Your paed is great for any medical issues, but when it comes to these types of 'behaviour/comfort/routine' issues, I would suggest someone like Cecile to come to your home (I think she does visits) to sit down and talk with you, and go through what is and isn't working, it could be quite a simple technique that she can show you or suggest, that will reduce you having to use infacol, gripe water or change your formula. I am sure others will have suggestions, but, it does get better, I know it seems really hard at the moment, but it will pass! <em>edited by TanyaR on 18/01/2012</em>
 
 

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