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Latest post on 26 June 2015 - 07:09

I have also posted this on the Australian forum but its pretty quiet there. We have an investment property in a mining town in WA. Since the start of the year it has been not been leased, both sets of neighbors being indigenous and a nightmare it seems. A local real estate company refused to take us on stating there was no point in advertising as it won't lease no matter how much we reduced out already cheap rent. The neighboring gardens are dump, literally! There are alcohol bottles lying around & yelling & screaming at all times of day or night & we really don't know what to do. Anyone with any experience or advice on this situation I would be eternally grateful. TIA

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Latest post on 04 July 2015 - 13:33

Generally, property investment in remote mining towns in Australia has been, until recently, an extremely lucrative investment. I do believe that property prices in certain mining towns around the country have decreased considerably recently, however. With regards to your neighbours, there is little you can do about it except regular calls to the local police with regards to the noise etc and also formal complaints to the local council regarding the mess in the yards. I do remember that it illegal to keep your yard like a "dump" in Australia. I think the local council will intervene in that regard and legally require the tenants or owners of your neighbouring properties to clean up their mess. Otherwise, I think the council will come in and clean it up and bill the owners of the properties. This may be a worthwhile action. Sadly, this is often the situation in regional Australia. Otherwise, I believe there is little you can do. Selling of course, will attract a massive taxation bill, especially as it is an investment property and the owners are expats and therefore, for the purposes of taxation, non residents of Australia. There won't be much profit left for you.

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Latest post on 01 July 2015 - 14:20

I have a BIL who built houses for the Indigenous people of Central Qld. Well as quick as he was building them, they were destroying them. The government just kept throwing money at him to either build more or keep repairing the ones he had built. It is a no win situation. Sell! You have made money thru the boom, now get out !!

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Latest post on 01 July 2015 - 13:47

Could you offer the neighbours an incentive to be tidy etc. such as a % of the rent if you find/keep a tenant?

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Latest post on 30 June 2015 - 19:14

Very sorry about this. Must be so frustrating and literally not much you can do. Are you able to find out the owners of the neighbouring properties? Real estate database? I am wondering if the neighbours are renting? If you could alert their managing agents to the problem? I wonder if they would tell you the duration of the lease? Is it possible that they could be moving on soon if the owner catches wind of what is happening and the state of disrepair of gardens etc. Clutching at straws I know. Just thinking of some ideas. I would definitely get a new agent, and also have someone come in to give you a valuation on the property so you can effectively weigh up whether it's worth selling or not. Honestly, if the miners have moved out, I wouldn't be holding my breath on them coming back any time soon. I have quite a bit of experience in mining towns myself and I think the next 'upturn' is still a little way off. We are about to resign the lease on our rental property and given the rock bottom interest rates at the moment the wind is really out of the sails in the rental market unfortunately.

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Latest post on 29 June 2015 - 23:38

Perhaps just wait it out? Maybe they will move out eventually? That is a big problem if both neighboring gardens are dumps...its a lost battle in my opinion. Or put up high fences on both sides so that the neighbours cant be seen? Shame I feel for you. Hope someone can come up with something

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Latest post on 26 June 2015 - 22:33

ahhh, I misread your post completely. HAHA. Find another real estate agent, they usually give you an estimate how much it will cost to have it cleaned up and if you would like them to proceed. Otherwise, cheaper to go yourself or send a friend or family to help clean and then try again. Real estate is always a pain to deal with when you're overseas. I'm never doing it again!

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Latest post on 26 June 2015 - 22:31

hi Gilly3 I had a house with neighbours that wouldn't leave in WA. They didn't take care of the place and we were working overseas. Long story short, the law sides more with the tenant. You can send them a termination notice giving them a 30 or 60 day notice (depending on whether your lease is periodic or fixed term) and if that fails, you can then apply for a court hearing to have them evicted. You can do this online, don't need to be there. You can get a hearing date within 3 weeks. The judge could rule anywhere between immediate eviction to 7 day eviction notice. In most cases, if it's a family staying, you may have to just wait as the judge won't throw them out. In our case, we moved back to WA, and after a lot of calls, etc, the tenants finally moved out and we renovated and sold the house. I'm tired, it's late, I hope that made sense :)

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Latest post on 26 June 2015 - 13:29

Thanks ladies, this property we have had for 6 years and it was a very worthwhile investment. Without getting into too many details the mining in the area (Iron Ore) has taken a hit so the main mining company no longer requires the extra accommodation for employees so the area has certainly changed.This isn't expected to be permanent so we are keeping the property. The issue with our neighbors is of course a delicate one. I am so sorry if the term indigenous offends you however it is relevant hence my mentioning it. I have been told placing a complaint with Government housing will fall on deaf ears due to this fact so it is indeed a factor unfortunately.

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Latest post on 26 June 2015 - 07:53

Its not an investment if you are not making money and by the likes of it you never will. Sell the property. Cut your losses. You will fight a losing battle if both the neighbours are like that.

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Latest post on 26 June 2015 - 07:32

I have also posted this on the Australian forum but its pretty quiet there. We have an investment property in a mining town in WA. Since the start of the year it has been not been leased, both sets of neighbors being indigenous and a nightmare it seems. A local real estate company refused to take us on stating there was no point in advertising as it won't lease no matter how much we reduced out already cheap rent. The neighboring gardens are dump, literally! There are alcohol bottles lying around & yelling & screaming at all times of day or night & we really don't know what to do. Anyone with any experience or advice on this situation I would be eternally grateful. TIA Investment property in a mining town with bad neighbors? Not to sound glib about your situation, but did you research what and more importantly WHERE you were buying? Or have you owned the property for a long time and the town has changed due to mining (and bad neighbors?) (note the use of "neighbors" instead of the somewhat offensive slant "indigenous")

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