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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:41
just another aside - i know lots of people who've never even had a passport !!! Generally speaking you only actually need one if you intend to travel. In my parents day far fewer people went abroad than do now hence loads of people of their generation don't even have passports lol. @ Gleeky - why would your children want British passports if they've never been to the UK and you never intend to live there as a family ? Do you already know where they will want to live when they grow up ?
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:40
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306323/Number-immigrants-living-UK-long-term-soars-20-1-year.html
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:33
, native born and bred Brits are some of the laziest takers in the world. H3ll yes - we have whole generations of Brits who sit on their backsides and do nothing but take, take, take because they earn more on benefits than they would with a job. The coalition says they're going to tackle this but I think it'll be a job and a half now.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:27
I am currently out of the UK I do not pay taxes (not working but DH still pays tax and nat insurance in the UK) I don't believe I am draining any service from the UK and I would certainly not go home to use the service eg to have a baby, other medical treatment like so many others on EW, I paid tax and NI for 26 years will only use the services when I am resident and entitled. I am passionate only as those who paid in often don't get what they need when they need it, that is my parents Eta but you are happy to exploit it, how is that right? I agree with you Izzy99 <em>edited by cymraes on 05/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:27
I was thinking about this subject just last night! My kids were born here and have spent more time here than they have in UK (we are Brits), but my kids will never be Emiratis or Emirati Britains. But if an african or indian comes to the UK to live and have their kids all of a sudden they are British Africans/ British Asians...how does that work? How can so many people be entitled to British passports and all of a sudden it makes them British? Just don't understand at all?
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:24
.......@gleekfamily ..... And it's people who think that who put my hard working elderly British born parents way down the NHS waiting list .... Shame on you! Shame on who exactly? Did I WRITE the legislation? Am I an immigration officer? I don't make the laws, I'll abide by them. My children are just as entitled to a UK passport based on heritage. Just like what we say with the whole maid situation here...you do what is right, regardless of how people view you. NO - you do what you think is morally right......
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:22
.......@gleekfamily ..... And it's people who think that who put my hard working elderly British born parents way down the NHS waiting list .... Shame on you! Shame on who exactly? Did I WRITE the legislation? Am I an immigration officer? I don't make the laws, I'll abide by them. My children are just as entitled to a UK passport based on heritage. Just like what we say with the whole maid situation here...you do what is right, regardless of how people view you.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:21
if it was simple then everyone's passport would be issued by the country in which they were born....end of.. :)
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:20
.......@gleekfamily ..... And it's people who think that who put my hard working elderly British born parents way down the NHS waiting list .... Shame on you! If you are so passionate about the UK why are you here not paying full UK taxes supporting your local services? Really this can be taken too far, the UK needed immigration and skilled workers, yes the system has been abused but not always by immigrants, native born and bred Brits are some of the laziest takers in the world. Things need to change, but nothing is ever that simple. *like* Also wonder how many of the posters speaking out about non "real" brits getting passports feel free to use NHS services when they are in the UK - as expats we are NOT entitled to it, yet many feel this is a right....
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:17
.......@gleekfamily ..... And it's people who think that who put my hard working elderly British born parents way down the NHS waiting list .... Shame on you! If you are so passionate about the UK why are you here not paying full UK taxes supporting your local services? Really this can be taken too far, the UK needed immigration and skilled workers, yes the system has been abused but not always by immigrants, native born and bred Brits are some of the laziest takers in the world. Things need to change, but nothing is ever that simple.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:16
It's not personal if you're the one taking advantage of government rules. It is personal if you're the one who can't access government services or funding when they're overstretched. Yes, the government is to blame, but it's far easier to blame those doing the overstretching than the faceless system. It's only natural.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:14
.......@gleekfamily ..... And it's people who think that who put my hard working elderly British born parents way down the NHS waiting list .... Shame on you!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:13
If you re not born in britain then you should NOT be entitled to it DH is British, born in Scotland (albeit with a Greek grandmother and an English mum). I'm British, born in England, with British parents of Scottish and Irish heritage. DS was born here because we live here. He likely won't live in the UK until he's old enough to choose to do so (or we need to go back to care for my parents). If he didn't have a British passport, though, what passport would he have?! And if he lives somewhere like the UAE in the future and has children here, what passport would they have? I used to be completely against anyone obtaining a passport purely for the benefits it brings - and I still am, if they don't contribute to the country - but I do wonder if DS should have a British passport when he wasn't born there and his only ties to the country are his parents and regular holidays there. One for the dinner table and a few bottles of wine...
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 18:09
People want british passports so they can travel freely in the world have free healthcare free schooling dole free houses et etc etc If you re not born in britain then you should NOT be entitled to it My father worked for 50 years 50 YEARS paying into the sysytems in place so every tom, romanvick raji or whoever can live off the state C R A P C R A P C R A P Well, I'll keep that in mind then when my children all get their British/EU passports even though they weren't born in the UK nor do we plan on living there. It's the rules that the government sets up, it's not personal.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 17:38
People want british passports so they can travel freely in the world have free healthcare free schooling dole free houses et etc etc If you re not born in britain then you should NOT be entitled to it My father worked for 50 years 50 YEARS paying into the sysytems in place so every tom, romanvick raji or whoever can live off the state C R A P C R A P C R A P
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 17:30
Just to throw something into the melting pot ...... There are different types of British/UK passports, some people are British Citizens and some are British Subjects, Subjects need a visa to enter the UAE - I don't know the details and differences of being a Citizen vs a Subject, but I am sure someone here will Eta - someone I know had a problem when entering the UAE as a Subject and their heritage was southern Irish but had Brit passport <em>edited by cymraes on 05/01/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:45
[i'>I used English as an example instead of typing English/Welsh/Scottish/N.I!! [/i'> what's wrong with British ? - ditto.!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:37
[i'>I used English as an example instead of typing English/Welsh/Scottish/N.I!! [/i'> what's wrong with British ?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:35
The mother is Japanese, the father is Nigerian but was issued a British passport, they live in Dubai but want their child to have a British Passport. The baby will be born in Dubai but the baby will move to the UK later. and you wonder why the UK is in such a mess........ Hooters the OP didn't say the Dad was Nigerian, she said he is British but born in Nigeria. The mother is not of British origin. Actually this could affect a lot of people here, who have married someone from another country - and were born out of the UK themselves. Where do we all say we are from? If I am British but was born out of the UK and have married someone not from the UK - and my children are born here - they get a British passport - where else do they get a passport from?... They spend no more than one week a year either in the UK or in the other country and 50 weeks of the year here. They can't get a passport for here. But getting a passport for UK or other country is not really right either. And where do their kids get passports from? It's all a big mess really. There is a big difference between being English and British Anyone can be British by passport but that will never make them English The point being that there are so many 'BRITISH' people in the UK now which English people feel is making them a minority. Why should i have to walk down a shopping aisle and see stuff written in Polish or be told by a chekout attendant that he wont scan my pork because its against his religion to touch it? Im tired of hearing about minorities who should have rights and looking after those who come from less fortunate countries than I do. What about the rights of English people? English? Thank goodness they still give us Scots asylum in Britain ;) I used English as an example instead of typing English/Welsh/Scottish/N.I!!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:35
lol.. how refreshing to hear someone slagging off their home country rather than their adopted one...... :)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:34
maid marion, he he he ditto the welsh!:)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:32
The mother is Japanese, the father is Nigerian but was issued a British passport, they live in Dubai but want their child to have a British Passport. The baby will be born in Dubai but the baby will move to the UK later. and you wonder why the UK is in such a mess........ Hooters the OP didn't say the Dad was Nigerian, she said he is British but born in Nigeria. The mother is not of British origin. Actually this could affect a lot of people here, who have married someone from another country - and were born out of the UK themselves. Where do we all say we are from? If I am British but was born out of the UK and have married someone not from the UK - and my children are born here - they get a British passport - where else do they get a passport from?... They spend no more than one week a year either in the UK or in the other country and 50 weeks of the year here. They can't get a passport for here. But getting a passport for UK or other country is not really right either. And where do their kids get passports from? It's all a big mess really. There is a big difference between being English and British Anyone can be British by passport but that will never make them English The point being that there are so many 'BRITISH' people in the UK now which English people feel is making them a minority. Why should i have to walk down a shopping aisle and see stuff written in Polish or be told by a chekout attendant that he wont scan my pork because its against his religion to touch it? Im tired of hearing about minorities who should have rights and looking after those who come from less fortunate countries than I do. What about the rights of English people? English? Thank goodness they still give us Scots asylum in Britain ;)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:21
The mother is Japanese, the father is Nigerian but was issued a British passport, they live in Dubai but want their child to have a British Passport. The baby will be born in Dubai but the baby will move to the UK later. and you wonder why the UK is in such a mess........ Hooters the OP didn't say the Dad was Nigerian, she said he is British but born in Nigeria. The mother is not of British origin. Actually this could affect a lot of people here, who have married someone from another country - and were born out of the UK themselves. Where do we all say we are from? If I am British but was born out of the UK and have married someone not from the UK - and my children are born here - they get a British passport - where else do they get a passport from?... They spend no more than one week a year either in the UK or in the other country and 50 weeks of the year here. They can't get a passport for here. But getting a passport for UK or other country is not really right either. And where do their kids get passports from? It's all a big mess really. There is a big difference between being English and British Anyone can be British by passport but that will never make them English The point being that there are so many 'BRITISH' people in the UK now which English people feel is making them a minority. Why should i have to walk down a shopping aisle and see stuff written in Polish or be told by a chekout attendant that he wont scan my pork because its against his religion to touch it? Im tired of hearing about minorities who should have rights and looking after those who come from less fortunate countries than I do. What about the rights of English people? and yet you are doing exactly the same in reverse..... you live here yet you buy British food and products that the local people are not allowed to have... <em>edited by Sue62 on 05/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:17
I am suprised as some of the replies here. Neither myself or the OP are "absolutely anyone", we are human beings looking out for the best interests of our families. When this is done within the law, I can't see that it should cause a problem. It would be interesting to watch how fast you would change your minds if the UK became uninhabitable for some reason, and you and your children only had a UK passport. It would also be great to watch many countries scramble to help, which they would. Perhaps a lot of people actually feel like the UK is uninhabitable for them due to the immigration problem? Do you mean people like your refugee boyfriend that you were posting about the other day? I do hope if you ever decide to move back to the UK you are fully prepared to stand by your convictions and leave him to go back to his "own" country! Asylum is put there for people who genuinely need it, like perhaps a refugee, not someone who wants to come over to the UK for a jolly, passing through every european country on the way to get to good old England. then bring all their family over to live with them once they are settled. My boyfriend, for example wouldnt take a British passport because he is too proud and he has a good life here and we dont want to live in the UK. But its just the same old... people take advantage of something that is put in place to help those who genuinely need it.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:16
The mother is Japanese, the father is Nigerian but was issued a British passport, they live in Dubai but want their child to have a British Passport. The baby will be born in Dubai but the baby will move to the UK later. and you wonder why the UK is in such a mess........ Hooters the OP didn't say the Dad was Nigerian, she said he is British but born in Nigeria. The mother is not of British origin. Actually this could affect a lot of people here, who have married someone from another country - and were born out of the UK themselves. Where do we all say we are from? If I am British but was born out of the UK and have married someone not from the UK - and my children are born here - they get a British passport - where else do they get a passport from?... They spend no more than one week a year either in the UK or in the other country and 50 weeks of the year here. They can't get a passport for here. But getting a passport for UK or other country is not really right either. And where do their kids get passports from? It's all a big mess really. There is a big difference between being English and British Anyone can be British by passport but that will never make them English The point being that there are so many 'BRITISH' people in the UK now which English people feel is making them a minority. Why should i have to walk down a shopping aisle and see stuff written in Polish or be told by a chekout attendant that he wont scan my pork because its against his religion to touch it? Im tired of hearing about minorities who should have rights and looking after those who come from less fortunate countries than I do. What about the rights of English people? Ahem - can we substitute British for English , please!!! :D
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:15
I am suprised as some of the replies here. Neither myself or the OP are "absolutely anyone", we are human beings looking out for the best interests of our families. When this is done within the law, I can't see that it should cause a problem. It would be interesting to watch how fast you would change your minds if the UK became uninhabitable for some reason, and you and your children only had a UK passport. It would also be great to watch many countries scramble to help, which they would. Perhaps a lot of people actually feel like the UK is uninhabitable for them due to the immigration problem? Do you mean people like your refugee boyfriend that you were posting about the other day? I do hope if you ever decide to move back to the UK you are fully prepared to stand by your convictions and leave him to go back to his "own" country! :\:
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:12
The mother is Japanese, the father is Nigerian but was issued a British passport, they live in Dubai but want their child to have a British Passport. The baby will be born in Dubai but the baby will move to the UK later. and you wonder why the UK is in such a mess........ Hooters the OP didn't say the Dad was Nigerian, she said he is British but born in Nigeria. The mother is not of British origin. Actually this could affect a lot of people here, who have married someone from another country - and were born out of the UK themselves. Where do we all say we are from? If I am British but was born out of the UK and have married someone not from the UK - and my children are born here - they get a British passport - where else do they get a passport from?... They spend no more than one week a year either in the UK or in the other country and 50 weeks of the year here. They can't get a passport for here. But getting a passport for UK or other country is not really right either. And where do their kids get passports from? It's all a big mess really. There is a big difference between being English and British Anyone can be British by passport but that will never make them English The point being that there are so many 'BRITISH' people in the UK now which English people feel is making them a minority. Why should i have to walk down a shopping aisle and see stuff written in Polish or be told by a chekout attendant that he wont scan my pork because its against his religion to touch it? Im tired of hearing about minorities who should have rights and looking after those who come from less fortunate countries than I do. What about the rights of English people?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 15:06
I am suprised as some of the replies here. Neither myself or the OP are "absolutely anyone", we are human beings looking out for the best interests of our families. When this is done within the law, I can't see that it should cause a problem. It would be interesting to watch how fast you would change your minds if the UK became uninhabitable for some reason, and you and your children only had a UK passport. It would also be great to watch many countries scramble to help, which they would. Perhaps a lot of people actually feel like the UK is uninhabitable for them due to the immigration problem? Do you mean people like your refugee boyfriend that you were posting about the other day? I do hope if you ever decide to move back to the UK you are fully prepared to stand by your convictions and leave him to go back to his "own" country!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 14:58
friends of ours born in uk lived in uk for 20 years, then lived in africa for number of years, kids were born in africa but also did live in uk with parents for over 3 years, twice -now the kids are grown and married, their children can apply for british passports as long as the fathers can prove that they resided in the uk for over 3 years in any one time ( ie school reports/work/ stuff like that.) according to uk passport office the father must have resided for over 3 years in one go, not a week or a month here and there and be able to show proof. this was found out recently by them, as they were in a quandry as to where do they apply for passports for children.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 05 January 2011 - 14:53
Immigration and naturalization policies are not the problem of the people, they are the problem of the government. You can't fault people for taking advantage of loopholes or inconsistent policies - what they are doing is within the law.
 
 

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