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EW GURU
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 18:22
Actually in the 10 years i have been here, I have not expereinced any crime at all, violent or minor, yet in the UK have been burgled, mugged and also mugged at knife point - had my bag cut off my shoulders and was left holding bag straps... so not really sure how personal expereince relates to ignorance.... I'm sorry for you just as I'm sorry for Sue62's Dad. But just as your perception of crime here is wrong, so is Sue62's Dad's perception of crime in the UK, and in both cases that perception is fed by the media. Mugging happens here. Stabbing happens here. Murder and rape happen here. There are many, many people in jail here on murder and assault charges. The media simply doesn't report it anywhere near as freely as in the UK. In fact, if you were to compare the incidence of violent crime in Dubai with the incidence in the UK, given the huge difference in population size you'd probably have no choice but to conclude that per capita, Dubai is more dangerous! You take my point about bird flu, yes? The risk of bird flu is [b'>exactly the same now[/b'> as it was a few years ago when the media (including here in the UAE) was full of stories about how a bird flu epidemic was going to kill millions all over the planet. So why isn't everyone scared any more? Simply because the media got bored and stopped running bird flu stories. That's the only thing that's changed. Like I said - it's all about [i'>perception[/i'>, not reality.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 17:40
AHA! You've "been to Dubai several times." Once you live here, you might see it differently. Well spotted, Guinness! Nadia007, I've lived longterm in both places and they seem to [i'>me[/i'> to be about as different as two cities can be. Which isn't surprising, obviously, given their respective ages, geographical locations, cultures etc etc. It would be odder if they were somehow very alike. As an aside, some Dubai-based friends phoned up in the middle of the riots (we live close to two areas that were badly looted) and asked whether we were sorry to have returned from the ME to London, and both of us laughed at the mere thought, even as yet another six police cars screamed past!
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 17:26
I feel terrible ladies..I really do...I didnt mean to kick off a whole debate!! @ Custard Apple I am the original poster and based in Central London!! I see the similarity between London and Dubai with their being so many nationalities and thats what I love about both places. I have been to Dubai several times and my personal feelings are that I feel safer walking in the evening in Dubai (both Bur Dubai and Deira). I agree with one poster that the media sensationalises stories but people were murdered in the riots for defending their property, 3 young men from Birmingham yards away from where my friends live and I personally saw alot of shops that were smashed up..I even felt fearful when my big local Tesco which is open 24 hours kicked us out early because of the riots and Kensington almost seemed like a ghost town!! Everyone experiences things in a different ways. I "personally" feel that Dubai is more child friendly and "feels" to me safer. Yes alot goes on behind closed doors but for me "personally" I am happy that the drugs, drink and underage *** arent so blatant Having said that I recognise the England has alot to offer in terms of welfare system , judicial system, education, and citizenship for expats!! AHA! You've "been to Dubai several times." Once you live here, you might see it differently.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 17:21
I feel terrible ladies..I really do...I didnt mean to kick off a whole debate!! @ Custard Apple I am the original poster and based in Central London!! I see the similarity between London and Dubai with their being so many nationalities and thats what I love about both places. I have been to Dubai several times and my personal feelings are that I feel safer walking in the evening in Dubai (both Bur Dubai and Deira). I agree with one poster that the media sensationalises stories but people were murdered in the riots for defending their property, 3 young men from Birmingham yards away from where my friends live and I personally saw alot of shops that were smashed up..I even felt fearful when my big local Tesco which is open 24 hours kicked us out early because of the riots and Kensington almost seemed like a ghost town!! Everyone experiences things in a different ways. I "personally" feel that Dubai is more child friendly and "feels" to me safer. Yes alot goes on behind closed doors but for me "personally" I am happy that the drugs, drink and underage *** arent so blatant Having said that I recognise the England has alot to offer in terms of welfare system , judicial system, education, and citizenship for expats!!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 17:01
I did ask why. Apparently, there are lots of Muslims, mosques, foreigners, Indians, good shopping, and halal food is readily available. ETA: That is why it is a favourite destination of Arabs from the Gulf. edited by AnonDubai on 18/08/2011 I just spat a mouthful of coffee onto my keyboard. Absolutely hilarious - very illuminating! Thanks! It was said in all seriousness. I believe you! That's what's making me laugh!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:52
I did ask why. Apparently, there are lots of Muslims, mosques, foreigners, Indians, good shopping, and halal food is readily available. ETA: That is why it is a favourite destination of Arabs from the Gulf. edited by AnonDubai on 18/08/2011 I just spat a mouthful of coffee onto my keyboard. Absolutely hilarious - very illuminating! Thanks! It was said in all seriousness. Anyway, the person who said this had to cancel her recent planned trip there because of the riots.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:47
I did ask why. Apparently, there are lots of Muslims, mosques, foreigners, Indians, good shopping, and halal food is readily available. ETA: That is why it is a favourite destination of Arabs from the Gulf. edited by AnonDubai on 18/08/2011 I just spat a mouthful of coffee onto my keyboard. Absolutely hilarious - very illuminating! Thanks!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:34
Someone from Dubai whom I know quite well and who goes to London often told me that Dubai and London are the same, except for the weather. :) Are you ever tempted to ask her to elaborate on how, exactly? ;) I did ask why. Apparently, there are lots of Muslims, mosques, foreigners, Indians, good shopping, and halal food is readily available. Interesting. Really does depend on your perspective :)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:32
Someone from Dubai whom I know quite well and who goes to London often told me that Dubai and London are the same, except for the weather. :) Are you ever tempted to ask her to elaborate on how, exactly? ;) I did ask why. Apparently, there are lots of Muslims, mosques, foreigners, Indians, good shopping, and halal food is readily available. ETA: That is why it is a favourite destination of Arabs from the Gulf. <em>edited by AnonDubai on 18/08/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:27
Someone from Dubai whom I know quite well and who goes to London often told me that Dubai and London are the same, except for the weather. :) A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:23
Someone from Dubai whom I know quite well and who goes to London often told me that Dubai and London are the same, except for the weather. :) Are you ever tempted to ask her to elaborate on how, exactly? ;) Bites tongue..
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:22
Someone from Dubai whom I know quite well and who goes to London often told me that Dubai and London are the same, except for the weather. :) Are you ever tempted to ask her to elaborate on how, exactly? ;)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:08
Someone from Dubai whom I know quite well and who goes to London often told me that Dubai and London are the same, except for the weather. :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 16:00
What has all of these discussions got to do with the original post? Someone said you'd have to be off your rocker to buy property in Dubai, and someone else said, no, but you'd have to be from somewhere with an appalling climate and/or significant political problems, and the UK/Dubai argument kicked off from there, after someone - for some reason I genuinely cannot fathom - said Dubai was 'like London' but with nicer weather...? Which does make one wonder whether that poster had ever been to London.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 15:55
What has all of these discussions got to do with the original post?
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 15:47
And it's always the same people with the same opinions. You are not going to change each other's minds!!! and the style of writing some people employ implies everyone else is wrong and no one else is allowed to have an opinion if it differs from their world view! *like*
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 15:00
Nonsense - the level of crime here and in the UAE does not compare at all. Am not saying there is no crime here, but compared to the UK it's insignificant. Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? ;) Actually in the 10 years i have been here, I have not expereinced any crime at all, violent or minor, yet in the UK have been burgled, mugged and also mugged at knife point - had my bag cut off my shoulders and was left holding bag straps... so not really sure how personal expereince relates to ignorance....
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 14:46
And it's always the same people with the same opinions. You are not going to change each other's minds!!! and the style of writing some people employ implies everyone else is wrong and no one else is allowed to have an opinion if it differs from their world view!
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 14:45
Is it just me or is anyone else finding these UK/Dubai comparison threads old and tiresome now? And I know I can opt not to read them and when the thread title is clear that this is what it is about then I don't read those threads. I opened this one to read about house prices in Dubai! What has safety of the UK got to do with it?? And it's always the same people with the same opinions. You are not going to change each other's minds!!! Nope, it`s not just you...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 14:41
Is it just me or is anyone else finding these UK/Dubai comparison threads old and tiresome now? And I know I can opt not to read them and when the thread title is clear that this is what it is about then I don't read those threads. I opened this one to read about house prices in Dubai! What has safety of the UK got to do with it?? And it's always the same people with the same opinions. You are not going to change each other's minds!!!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 14:25
... It's a different opinion, if we all thought the same wouldn't it be dull. Don't start from me to u slanging matches.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 14:24
Not forgetting the number of maids that are regularly beaten up and/or raped by their employers. We often heard terrified screams coming from houses opposite us and when I mentioned it to our Serbian landlord he said that he knew where it was coming from and had informed the police. Nothing was ever done because .... well, fill in the gaps! My DH's former boss's wife rescued a terrified maid who managed to climb out of a window to escape her violent "madam" and the males of the house. She helped her to call her embassy. There may be problems in the UK (remember these riots only happened in England) but at least people have a voice, albeit many take liberties with that freedom of speech.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 14:18
That's really rude edna, princess isn't ignorant and yes it's true most people in UK haven't been mugged but I do know personally someone who has. You sound really down on Dubai how can you bear to stay here? Hubby's tax free job maybe?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 13:56
Nonsense - the level of crime here and in the UAE does not compare at all. Am not saying there is no crime here, but compared to the UK it's insignificant. Ignorance is bliss, isn't it? ;) If the amount of violent crime in Dubai was reported as widely as it is in the UK, you'd have a different opinion. As it is, only the exceptional cases make the expat papers here. Lots of run-of-the-mill stabbings, muggings and burglaries just get quietly dealt with and the perpetrators locked up without anything being reported in the media, so we end up with the impression that there is less crime here than there actually is. The jails here are busy, and not just with people with credit problems. It's all about perception. Most people in the UK have never been mugged, and they probably don't know anyone who's ever been mugged either, but they think it's a major problem because they read sensationalised stories about in the papers. If the papers [i'>stopped[/i'> printing those stories, people would stop thinking it was a problem, even though the actual incidence of mugging hadn't changed. It's like bird flu. Remember that? The media was full of the impending bird flu apocalypse, and a lot of people became genuinely worried... and then the media got bored and stopped running the stories, and so everybody forgot to be worried any more. The actual risk from bird flu is no less now than it was then (and the papers did choose the most sensational angle, of course), but nobody really worries about it because the media isn't encouraging us to be worried about it. <em>edited by edna.welthorpe on 18/08/2011</em>
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 13:23
Personally I don’t feel safe walking around Deira or Karama I found it quite seedy especially with all those leering men. Its my opinion sorry if you don’t like it, I don’t really care what you tell your friends I would not let my children go to those places the same as I won’t let them go to certain places in London. I think you are living in a bubble don’t you think rape and theft is rife in places like Karama and Deira ? Maybe you should do a little bit of research. Thanks for letting me know I'm living my life in a bubble. I just told you that I have friends who live in these areas. My whole social/shopping life is centered around Sharjah,Deira and Bur Dubai. For someone who doesn't live there, has not been there for a long time , you certainly make assumptions about rape and theft being rife. Where you would send your kids is your business, just because you feel it is seedy doesn't make it so for others. Maybe I should assume things about London, especially knife crime, seeing those huge knife bins prominently displayed in areas around Kensington, which is where we stay when we visit.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 13:10
I’m not jumping on you, I just don’t like people painting an unnecessarily bad picture of the UK constantly. Would you let your teenage children out in Karama or Deera (sp) at night (or during the day for that matter) I wouldn’t, its the same in the UK... good places and bad. Hope your enjoying your summer, shame about the weather LOL Whats wrong with Karama and Deira? It's perfectly safe for women to be there at any time of day, I've personally been in both areas well into the night with no problems whatsoever. Annoys the **** out of me when people post stuff like this without any evidence. Did you personally have a bad experience in these places? If not, come alongwith me and i'll introduce you to families with teenage kids who have lived there for years and lead perfectly normal, safe nights!... [i'>Yes actually I personally know of 2 murders that happened in Deira that were not reported in the papers there have also been lots of reports of drug, knife and gang crime in Karama, so no, I wouldn’t let my children go there on their own. [/i'> Why is it that you post on this forum solely to bash Dubai ( not that it doesn't need bashing) but have not one good thing to say about it? Your anger with the place is truly curious!! [i'>Look through my posts I think you will find you are wrong on that one.[/i'> You know of two murders in Deira? So you are basing your opinion of Karama based on reports, not actual experience of living there or families who've lived in these places? So whats the difference between you and other posters who believe what they read in the papers/Tv about the Uk and choose to form their opinions? I'll just tell my friends that they are living in high crime areas and they should lock up their kids, then. Personally I don’t feel safe walking around Deira or Karama I found it quite seedy especially with all those leering men. Its my opinion sorry if you don’t like it, I don’t really care what you tell your friends I would not let my children go to those places the same as I won’t let them go to certain places in London. I think you are living in a bubble don’t you think rape and theft is rife in places like Karama and Deira ? Maybe you should do a little bit of research.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 13:04
I lived in Deira a while ago, next to our building there was a building only for "working women", there would be men going in and out all day long and half naked women on the street,..etc... now imagine letting your kid play downstairs close to all that!! My ex lived in Karama i didnt live there but i would come and see him often for few days, after an accident of a men chasing me until my ex's door step he never again let me out alone anywhere around his buildings. This never happened to me anywhere in Dubai.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 13:03
It's not the kind of place I'd love my teenager to hang out. I understand people saying yes its perfectly safe, but no where is perfectly safe in the world. If you read the papers there's alot more crime prostitution drugs etc goingon down there then around the ranches or the springs. Also you get alot more men hanging about and staring at the youngsters, not that u don't get that anywhere else u just get more of it up in karama. Good for you, if thats what you want for child - that is what you must do. Both Deira nd Bur Dubai are very densely populated, there are more people living in these areas, than there is in the rest of Dubai combined. I know several people who have multiple properties in the Meadows, AR, etc, yet choose to live in Karama and Deira, because they've lived their whole lives there - kids and all.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 12:58
I’m not jumping on you, I just don’t like people painting an unnecessarily bad picture of the UK constantly. Would you let your teenage children out in Karama or Deera (sp) at night (or during the day for that matter) I wouldn’t, its the same in the UK... good places and bad. Hope your enjoying your summer, shame about the weather LOL Whats wrong with Karama and Deira? It's perfectly safe for women to be there at any time of day, I've personally been in both areas well into the night with no problems whatsoever. Annoys the **** out of me when people post stuff like this without any evidence. Did you personally have a bad experience in these places? If not, come alongwith me and i'll introduce you to families with teenage kids who have lived there for years and lead perfectly normal, safe nights!... [i'>Yes actually I personally know of 2 murders that happened in Deira that were not reported in the papers there have also been lots of reports of drug, knife and gang crime in Karama, so no, I wouldn’t let my children go there on their own. [/i'> Why is it that you post on this forum solely to bash Dubai ( not that it doesn't need bashing) but have not one good thing to say about it? Your anger with the place is truly curious!! [i'>Look through my posts I think you will find you are wrong on that one.[/i'> You know of two murders in Deira? So you are basing your opinion of Karama based on reports, not actual experience of living there or families who've lived in these places? So whats the difference between you and other posters who believe what they read in the papers/Tv about the Uk and choose to form their opinions? I'll just tell my friends that they are living in high crime areas and they should lock up their kids, then.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 18 August 2011 - 12:49
I’m not jumping on you, I just don’t like people painting an unnecessarily bad picture of the UK constantly. Would you let your teenage children out in Karama or Deera (sp) at night (or during the day for that matter) I wouldn’t, its the same in the UK... good places and bad. Hope your enjoying your summer, shame about the weather LOL I made it quite clear i was quoting my own father's experience - not speaking for anyone else... not "drivel" or "racist". I have never been to Karama or Deira so i can't comment. Now why doesn’t that surprise me with 4,000 posts in one year !
 
 

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