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Latest post on 11 March 2013 - 17:48

Dear all

We have moved from the UK in the last 3 months ago. We have moved from a 4 bed semidetached 'cosy' townhouse to a 4 bedroom Villa over here. We always said that we would not 'want' a live-in maid, but I spend all day cleaning, getting the kids uniforms ready etc. Something in the Uk that I could control, as our home was half the size of our Villa, but here I am resigned to the fact that I need to have some homehelp if I am going to enjoy my kids and hubby's 'time off'.

We don't like the idea of invasion of our privacy ( although this may change) and so are considering the idea of a live out maid. We would be grateful for anyone's experiences of this and also of how to go about this. I have heard of friends hauling maids over from the Phillipines on the basis of a few emails, but I don't think I'm that brave.

Would love to get any friendly advice.

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Latest post on 29 April 2013 - 21:18

I'm due with my first in September, we don't want a live in maid, and a full time live out maid is too much as I will be a stay at home mom. However, we want more than a cleaner, we want someone who would get to know the child for babysitting. I know it's very specific, but sharing a live out maid would be perfect. Has anyone got any experience of this, anyone looking to share a maid??? It is illegal to share a maid between several families - some people do take the risk but there are severe consequences if caught including a 50,000dhs fine and deportation of the maid The only legal way to hire a maid is to hire one on your own sponsorship or to hire an hourly agency maid

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Latest post on 29 April 2013 - 19:52

I'm due with my first in September, we don't want a live in maid, and a full time live out maid is too much as I will be a stay at home mom. However, we want more than a cleaner, we want someone who would get to know the child for babysitting. I know it's very specific, but sharing a live out maid would be perfect. Has anyone got any experience of this, anyone looking to share a maid???

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Latest post on 03 April 2013 - 16:28

HI Ladies, Just curious about the Live-out helper salary... Currently, I have a live-in. We pay/cover everything, food, toiletries (soap, shampoo, girly things, toilet paper, lotion, all meds, full access to household STUFF), etc. Her salary goes in her pocket or home or whatever she does with it. Does the 2,200-3,000 dhs cover all living expenses, including their living space, utilities, food, toiletries....? I think, 3,000 dhs would cover it- depending on where your maid lives and how much rent she needs. For my maid- that would cover it, plus she does get extras from us as well. For example- she owns most of my wardrobe. Before I got pregnant- I bought myself tons of clothes, that I never wore (brand new with tags still on) and they fit her, and she got everything. She also eats 1-2 meals at my home as well, and has full access tour kitchen- she can eat what she likes throughout the day. So I think at 2,800-3,000 her expenses are covered- if they weren't she would let us know for sure.

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Latest post on 02 April 2013 - 22:31

HI Ladies, Does the 2,200-3,000 dhs cover all living expenses, including their living space, utilities, food, toiletries....? Yes, but 2200 is too low for a live-out IMO. I pay 2500 a month, with extra's (christmas, birthday, an occasional gift for her kids etc.) totalling up to another 2500/year. And of course she has lunch at our house, but breakfast and dinner she eats at home. She lives nearby, so doesn't need transportation. <em>edited by Oopsiedaisy on 02/04/2013</em>

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Latest post on 02 April 2013 - 13:35

HI Ladies, Just curious about the Live-out helper salary... Currently, I have a live-in. We pay/cover everything, food, toiletries (soap, shampoo, girly things, toilet paper, lotion, all meds, full access to household STUFF), etc. Her salary goes in her pocket or home or whatever she does with it. Does the 2,200-3,000 dhs cover all living expenses, including their living space, utilities, food, toiletries....?

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Latest post on 02 April 2013 - 09:56

Agree with Meagle! That's about the price range we looking at as well, 2200-2500 + 1 ticket a year back home. As for maids working hours, that something that we discussed with the maid and agreed on hours that would be reasonable and discussed her day off as well. if the maid is already here- the visa process doesn't take very long, and the benefit to have a maid that's already here and who'se worked here- she knows her way around ect... When you bring a maid from the home country- I imagine it could be difficult to have her live out as she won't know the area, will need help getting around ect... If you're expecting in October (like me)- I would suggest even starting your search now and hiring someone before you deliver- Just so that you have time to get to know each other and work together and be comfortable.

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Latest post on 01 April 2013 - 15:03

I asked around quite a bit and also asked the applicants we were interviewing what they were seeking salary-wise. I found a broad range for a live out nanny: 2200-3000 per month. The visa process didn't take us long once our nanny had per "pink slip" (visa cancellation) from her prior employer. I would probably suggest starting the search process at least 6-8 weeks before you NEED someone as she may be already employed and they may need to find a replacement. Once you have the application in place they can start working for you and you have another month to complete the medical and the remaining documentation.

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Latest post on 31 March 2013 - 12:10

Cleo4e/Meagle, thanks a lot for the info. Could you say what is an average-fair salary for a leave-out maid/nanny? Is there a local law regarding working hours? And also: how complicated is the process to get a visa and is it easier to transfer then to bring somebody from abroad? How long in advance should I start looking for a nanny? I am due in October and would like to have someone as soon as September, in order to train her and get used to one another I guess..

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Latest post on 27 March 2013 - 12:44

CLeo4e Really what I was looking at- how did you go about finding her. Was it someone who you got through an agency initially or sourced yourself? There are so many websites don't really know where to start. Would love to get any gems. Mums She was originally an agency maid that used to come to do cleaning at our home 3 times a week. Her contract and visa expires at the end of April and that's where we take over. My husband will be putting her under his visa. She's never really been a 'housemaid' before as she's only ever worked as a cleaning lady, so I'll be doing a lot of training, in terms of cooking, and childcare but she speaks great english and understands very well, so my fingers crossed that this arrangements works out well. I'll keep you posted! OH and also- as for her transport: the salary we are offering her, includes her metro transport- as well as her rent in an apartment she will be sharing with her sister who is also a live out housemaid.

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Latest post on 24 March 2013 - 13:18

Nisa, it really depends on your particular arrangement. We have a live out nanny. She pays for her own transportation (via metro--we live near a station). My friend has a similar set up and pays for her nanny's transportation.

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Latest post on 24 March 2013 - 11:43

Hello Mums, my apologies for jumping on this thread too, I don't have any advice for you as I am also interested in hiring a live out, full time maid but wondered how it works? Who is responsible for her getting to and from work each day etc? We are a family of four working adults who just need help keeping on top of things but we have tried maid agencies and have not found any who really do a good job so thought this would be the best way to go. We too are not yet comfortable with having someone else in the house all the time! Any advice would be appreciated, thank you.

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Latest post on 21 March 2013 - 18:35

CLeo4e Really what I was looking at- how did you go about finding her. Was it someone who you got through an agency initially or sourced yourself? There are so many websites don't really know where to start. Would love to get any gems. Mums

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Latest post on 18 March 2013 - 15:45

I'm actually in the process of hiring a live out filipina maid myself. She used to work for a cleaning company- and would come to my home 3 times a week. I'm pregnant with #2 now, and I just feel I need someone a little more 'available' to do tasks that she cannot possibly complete in the 4 hours that she's here for. I'm also really huge on privacy and feel like i need my alone time so this is the best solution for me and my family. She will be starting with us in May, and I'll keep you updated on how it goes :)

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Latest post on 12 March 2013 - 17:01

I would arrange an agency cleaner to come in a couple of times a week to tackle the big jobs and the ironing My friends have a large villa and 3 kids. Mum is a SAHM so she does ironing, cleaning, cooking etc and the kids get pocket money for washing up, taking the rubbish out etc They have an agency lady twice a week to do the big jobs

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Latest post on 12 March 2013 - 16:22

If you don't like the idea of having another stranger in your house, then don't. there are so many agencies around, call them and arrange one or 2 times a week cleaner to come around and do the cleaning. if you do not use all the rooms, close some or the ones that none of you use, example the guest room, an do the cleaning once a month. ask the children to help you, ask them to pick up their toys or cloths and place it back. ask dh to help you around the house, don't be a super mum, no one did it and who is claiming they are; they are lying! do search of the alex cleaning list, it will help you to fragment the home chores and always ask your family to help around. HTH

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