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VISA for my Son

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 February 2016 - 18:40

Good Afternoon,

i am divorced living with my 8yr old Son and my Boyfriend in Germany.
We are planning to move to dubai. My Boyfriend is setting up a Freezone Company and rent an Office.
I will be employed in this Company to get a VISA and to work there.

We are not married. (I know its illegal...) and he is not the father of my son.
My Ex-Husband is in the birth certificate of my Son and he would sign a NOC Letter without any problems

how can i get a VISA for my Son ?
I think its not possible through the freezone company of my boyfriend ?
I read that i would need to provide a rental contract (Ejari) and water/electricity bills to the authorities in dubai which all needs to be in my name.
This will be a big problem.

Our plan was to move to dubai in September, live in a hotel for 2 - 3 months and then we will buy an appartment. But can i use the hotel Bill instead of a rental contract ?
And what if we moved to the appartment we want to buy ? Does my boyfriend needs to sign a "fake" rental contract with me ? or can his Freezone Company confirm that the company pays my accomodation ?

I hope you can help me :(

Janine

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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 17:09
thanks for your answers. the thing with the mortgages is wrong. there a few banks out there will give 50% mortgages to people which are non resident in UAE. Also the real estate agents saying the same.. but back to the main thing: In case we get married, will it still make a difference that the child is not from my boyfriend ? You are better informed than me. I really wasn't aware of any bank in the UAE that gives non-residents a mortgage because everything here is tied to your residence visa. Maybe things have changed or you are referring to a non-based UAE bank. If you do get married, it will make no difference that your current BF/future DH is not your child's father. As long as you have all of the custody papers and an NOC from the father, you will have no problem sponsoring your son (but you must still provide all of the required documents). Make sure that all of your official documents relating to your divorce and custody, as well as the NOC, are attested and (ideally) translated into Arabic before you come to the UAE. That will save you a lot of hassle, time and money :)
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 15:44
thanks for your answers. the thing with the mortgages is wrong. there a few banks out there will give 50% mortgages to people which are non resident in UAE. Also the real estate agents saying the same.. but back to the main thing: In case we get married, will it still make a difference that the child is not from my boyfriend ?
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 09:33
janinadubai, you seem to have read the requirements for sponsoring your son in Dubai, which do include a valid tenancy contract and Ejari certificate. The scenario you are thinking of is very complex and likely to fail simply because of other reasons beyond your control. Your plan to buy a property within three months may not materialise unless you plan to pay the full amount in cash. If you plan to borrow money from a bank, they will not lend it to you based on the short time that you have been in the UAE. I think this is the first issue that you have to be realistic about (unless, as I said, you are planning to make a cash purchase). As your not married, you also can't buy a property in a joint name. Only spouses and siblings can jointly buy property in Dubai. The second issue is the matter of the visas, which can take longer than you expect. The ideal sequence is as follows (if you chose not to get married): 1. you get your visa (presumably an employment visa from your BF's company) and Emirates ID, 2. you rent or (cash) buy an apartment/villa in YOUR name (which can take anywhere from 4-12 weeks or even more), 3. you get your paperwork (presumably you already have the papers from your son's father) and then you apply for your son's visa and Emirates ID. Only after you have all of this in place, you can register your son for school. This entire process can take weeks and months, especially in September which is the traditional time for an influx of new expats so there are backlogs everywhere. The final issue here that you may wish to consider is the potential consequences to you living in Dubai if your relationship doesn't work out. I'm not saying that it won't since your BF seems to have already indicated that you plan to marry, but you should always have a back up plan. So as you can see, what the other ladies are suggesting to you makes much more sense. If you get married before your arrive in the UAE, your husband can organise your residence visa before you arrive (it can still be an employment visa in the company name). Make sure you attest your marriage certificate before arriving in Dubai. Once you are here with your son, you simply take your Ejari, marriage certificate (to show that you are married to the person whose name is on the Ejari), and other documents, and apply for a residence for your son. HTH. Good luck to you!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 09:12
The responses you have been given are correct - it will be difficult for you to get a 'fake' tenancy agreement from your bf if he is living in the same house as you will have to provide his details too. There are huge repercussions if you were to be found out and as FairyDust said you have a child involved so it would be hugely irresponsible to do anything illegal. Rather than think of it as just to solve the problem think of it as being a great new beginning as a family unit out here. Life for you all would be so much easier.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 08:37
Also normally I'm not the person who advocates getting married 'just because', and usually it's fine to cohabit with no issues here. However, you have a child involved and the fact that your BF would also be your employer and sponsor complicates things massively. It really is your only option to avoid hassles.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 08:22
i dont get married just to solve this problem . how stupid is this ? and apart from this.. my boyfriend is not the childs father. i think this will still be an issue even if we are married... if someone has a constructive answer to my first post please let me know thanks No need to get rude if you don't like the answer. Especially if you're planning on living together in a country where that's a crime. How stupid is that...?
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 07:59
Your boyfriend has already asked this question in another forum and been given all and practically the same answers He said you're planning to marry next year anyway, so why not just do a quick civil ceremony, get the piece of paper and solve all your issues, then have your big wedding next year. His response was 'shall I go and talk to the authorities about it?' - erm yeah that's not a smart idea.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 07:38
Your boyfriend cannot sponsor you or your son. Full stop. It will be difficult to register your son in school unless he has a valid RP. You cannot sponsor your son unless you have a valid residency permit usually provided by your employer. Will you be working for your boyfriend? He would have to look into the ins and outs of hiring an expat employee (you) in the free zone. It is less complicated if you and your boyfriend were married because of the sponsorship laws. You would still have a few hoops to jump through because of your son, but they would just take time to process. Don't expect too many responses if you call the first reply stupid. Lots of people do get married before they come to UAE because of the sponsorship laws and adultery laws.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 24 February 2016 - 01:47
i dont get married just to solve this problem . how stupid is this ? and apart from this.. my boyfriend is not the childs father. i think this will still be an issue even if we are married... if someone has a constructive answer to my first post please let me know thanks
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 23 February 2016 - 11:07
Good Afternoon, i am divorced living with my 8yr old Son and my Boyfriend in Germany. We are planning to move to dubai. My Boyfriend is setting up a Freezone Company and rent an Office. I will be employed in this Company to get a VISA and to work there. We are not married. (I know its illegal...) and he is not the father of my son. My Ex-Husband is in the birth certificate of my Son and he would sign a NOC Letter without any problems how can i get a VISA for my Son ? I think its not possible through the freezone company of my boyfriend ? I read that i would need to provide a rental contract (Ejari) and water/electricity bills to the authorities in dubai which all needs to be in my name. This will be a big problem. Our plan was to move to dubai in September, live in a hotel for 2 - 3 months and then we will buy an appartment. But can i use the hotel Bill instead of a rental contract ? And what if we moved to the appartment we want to buy ? Does my boyfriend needs to sign a "fake" rental contract with me ? or can his Freezone Company confirm that the company pays my accomodation ? I hope you can help me :( Janine Get married, that will solve all of your problems Personally speaking I would never attempt to do all the "fake stuff" as you put it If anyone were to discover it you could be in big trouble and liable for deportation
 
 

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