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Latest post on 21 March 2011 - 11:26

Im a bit thick sorry, we will no re sponsor our maid, do we need to give her a ticket for a holiday and holiday pay as well as a ticket home? She will most likely try to look for a new family but I sure as **** wont give a glowing reference so can only assume she will be going home.

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Latest post on 20 March 2011 - 12:44

and thanks from me too SM :)

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Latest post on 17 March 2011 - 16:34

thanks spongemonkey...dont think i need all this now just put a new post up...totally fed up with maid issues now....

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Latest post on 17 March 2011 - 15:58

Did I say something? :-P

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 18:05

[u'>[b'>Employment Agreement for Domestic Workers and Sponsors[/b'>[/u'> (this is what you sign at Immigration) Second Article: 2 - The second party ( your maid) shall be given one month paid vacation after contract completion. The second party may opt for a salary of one month in lieu of the month vacation, in addition the value of one return ticket to the home country. Third Article: 1 - Upon expiry of the contract without renewal, the first party ( the sponsor) must pay for the second party return to home country. 2- Upon renewal of contarct, should the second party opt for one month's vacation, the first party must provide the second party a return ticket to the home country.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 16:00

Yep I understand u have to pay her for the 30 days she doesn't work but u don't have to give them the air fare money if they do not return home. I thought they couldn't take 30 days off in Dubai there only option is to go back to there home country or not take holiday. So if I do not renew who visa in november 2011 and she hasn't taken no holiday as she didn't want to, when she leaves I either let her go to new sponsor or buy her a one way ticket home. If I want to I can supply her with a bonus of 13 th month salary but by law I do not have too ?

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 14:47

Am reading this thread with great interest as our maid doesn't want to go home this summer - however, we feel quite strongly that she should indeed take her holiday entitlement and at least have some time out of her normal working duties even if she wants to stay in Dubai. We will of course give her the money equivalent for the air fare but do we have a legal obligation to pay her for the 30 days just because she doesn't want to go home. I suppose in a way I'm asking can we force her to take her leave or not? Thanks in advance for your help.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 13:56

Yes, of course, if she doesn´t go on leave she can encash her salary pay and get paid in lieu of the holiday days, that is her right. That would effectively be an extra month´s salary.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 12:04

Regarding the one-month salary that has to be paid to the maids, there is no obligation to provide her with 2-month salary. The law provides for one-month salary, that's all. For example, if she goes on holidays in November, then you have to pay her only one-month salary corresponding to the duration of the paid holidays. Yes this is correct - they are entitled to a month's salary whether they work it or whether they are in Sri Lanka or wherever! Sometimes though people pay them the extra month as they are working what is in effect their leave ( by their choice). You are not having to do it yourself or pay an agency for help if she had gone away. Personally ( for me) I feel that that is the right thing to do! To say "well she chose not to go so she forfeits her right to holiday salary for that year" is downright miserable! Then there is the idea of the 13th month that sometimes people give as a "bonus" .

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 11:58

Yep thanks for ure input i am right. If we renew her contract November 2011 she wanted the 13 th month pay and cash for ticket home. Then in March 2012 she wants another 13 th month pay and us to buy her a ticket home. When she should wait till November 2012 for 13 th month salary and ticket home. Ive no said no u will not get holiday in November and march.if i renew ure contract in November 2011 i will keep your holiday pay and buy u a ticket in March and pay ure 13 th month salary. when u want to go. she continues to argue with me. To tell u the truth after all this i seriously can not be bothered to renew it in November. If she leaves in November and goes to a new sponsor do u still give them cash for the flight home that they are not taking? is that up to the individual. Oh that is different then. The addition of the dates helps clarify. So basically she wants to take the cash and salary in Nov 2011 which some people DO do if the maid chooses not to go home! ( plus she is entitled) BUT she wants a "holiday advance" as it were in the March of a ticket and salary which are not due until Nov 2012. No , she is pushing it clearly. She may not even still be working for you by Nov 2012! I would offer her the ticket and salary that she is due in Nov 2011 for the March trip 2012. Then in Nov she will get the rest that she is due for another year of work. However she sounds to me like a lady with a plan on her mind!

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 11:56

Regarding the one-month salary that has to be paid to the maids, there is no obligation to provide her with 2-month salary. The law provides for one-month salary, that's all. For example, if she goes on holidays in November, then you have to pay her only one-month salary corresponding to the duration of the paid holidays.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 11:54

Yep thanks for ure input i am right. If we renew her contract November 2011 she wanted the 13 th month pay and cash for ticket home. Then in March 2012 she wants another 13 th month pay and us to buy her a ticket home. When she should wait till November 2012 for 13 th month salary and ticket home. Ive no said no u will not get holiday in November and march.if i renew ure contract in November 2011 i will keep your holiday pay and buy u a ticket in March and pay ure 13 th month salary. when u want to go. she continues to argue with me. To tell u the truth after all this i seriously can not be bothered to renew it in November. If she leaves in November and goes to a new sponsor do u still give them cash for the flight home that they are not taking? is that up to the individual. Yes, you have to pay her a one-way flight even if she finds a new sponsor. You can either pay her the ticket or the equivalent in cash of the price of the ticket.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 09:27

Is giving an extra month salary for the holidays common? As I understand it that is a bonus on top of the normal salary? We have paid only the normal salary as usual, sometimes giving an advance of half or more of next month´s salary to get some extra cash for the holidays. Eg if maid travels end of March I'd pay the March salary and advance some of the salary due at the end of April (the rest upon her return so she has some cash left to last her until end of May). Have never myself received double salary when going on holiday. It is common here and elsewhere (Far East and Africa for example). I think there are many new expats here so perhaps it's a more old school way of doing things. I've re -read the OP post and think that the maid might not be entirely wrong? Of course it's up to the discretion of the OP whether a) she pays a so far unagreed (it woud seem) holiday pay and whether March and Nov holidays in the same year for a month at a time are convenient. But the maid is entitled to a month and the airfares per year. Contract Nov 10 - Nov 11 - Taking flights and holiday pay March 12 Contract Nov 11 - Nov 12 - Taking flights and holiday pay Nov 12 What I understood is that, the maid wants to take bonus and ticket money on on end of Nov 11 plus she wants ticket and bonus on march, 12, so when her contract finishes on Nov 12 and she doesn't want to renew the contract, the sponsor should buy another ticket for her with one month salary...so she will be getting 3 ticket money and 3 extra month salary or working 2 years... If this is the case, i do not think OP should buy her ticket on March, 12.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 09:24

Yep thanks for ure input i am right. If we renew her contract November 2011 she wanted the 13 th month pay and cash for ticket home. Then in March 2012 she wants another 13 th month pay and us to buy her a ticket home. When she should wait till November 2012 for 13 th month salary and ticket home. Ive no said no u will not get holiday in November and march.if i renew ure contract in November 2011 i will keep your holiday pay and buy u a ticket in March and pay ure 13 th month salary. when u want to go. she continues to argue with me. To tell u the truth after all this i seriously can not be bothered to renew it in November. If she leaves in November and goes to a new sponsor do u still give them cash for the flight home that they are not taking? is that up to the individual.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 09:12

Is giving an extra month salary for the holidays common? As I understand it that is a bonus on top of the normal salary? We have paid only the normal salary as usual, sometimes giving an advance of half or more of next month´s salary to get some extra cash for the holidays. Eg if maid travels end of March I'd pay the March salary and advance some of the salary due at the end of April (the rest upon her return so she has some cash left to last her until end of May). Have never myself received double salary when going on holiday. It is common here and elsewhere (Far East and Africa for example). I think there are many new expats here so perhaps it's a more old school way of doing things. I've re -read the OP post and think that the maid might not be entirely wrong? Of course it's up to the discretion of the OP whether a) she pays a so far unagreed (it woud seem) holiday pay and whether March and Nov holidays in the same year for a month at a time are convenient. But the maid is entitled to a month and the airfares per year. Contract Nov 10 - Nov 11 - Taking flights and holiday pay March 12 Contract Nov 11 - Nov 12 - Taking flights and holiday pay Nov 12

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 08:57

Is giving an extra month salary for the holidays common? As I understand it that is a bonus on top of the normal salary? We have paid only the normal salary as usual, sometimes giving an advance of half or more of next month´s salary to get some extra cash for the holidays. Eg if maid travels end of March I'd pay the March salary and advance some of the salary due at the end of April (the rest upon her return so she has some cash left to last her until end of May). Have never myself received double salary when going on holiday.

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Latest post on 16 March 2011 - 08:41

My maids contract will be up in November, she wants to go back to phillipines in the march after we have renewed her contract,so we pay her an extra months salary and buy her a ticket in march... Then when her contract is up again the following november shes entilted to another months pay and air ticket home is this right? She said shes entitled to holiday pay and the money of her air ticket in the november when her contract is up ...then in march shes entilted to her one month in philipine and her ticket home. so in 16 months of working she is getting paid two months holiday a ticket home and cash for a ticket? All this is confusing :@ Nov 2011 she will have worked for you for a year. March 2012 she wants to take her ticket and holiday salary ie what she would get if she were here in Dubai . That's OK by me. Nov 2012 she will have completed another year. If she is leaving you then, she gets a one way ticket back home and I would give her the month salary that she is entitled to. PS It is not 16 months of working - she will have worked for you for 24 months! However I do know total cheapskates here who say "if they choose not to go then that is their decision and I don't give them anything" Harsh or what and they are the same people down ordering this and that at Tiffanys! <em>edited by spongemonkey on 16/03/2011</em>

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 21:24

So she does not want a holiday in Nov 2011, but will take cash in lieu of that. Ok She wants to take her Nov 2012 holiday early in the March. If you pay again, and things don't work out then you are stuffed in the November when she does not want to renew, as by then if she wants to leave, she is only entitled to a one way ticket. OR she is trying to pull a fast one., so I would suggest to her that you will hold her months vacation/ticket money until she is ready to travel, and that way she will understand that she cannot have another one so soon or an early one for the following year.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 20:52

Agree - Sounds about right to me. Contractually, 1 ticket per year or the money equiv. Also, you have to pay the salary for that month but not necessarily the 13th month bonus payment on top. We do pay the 13th month and have that as an caveat in our contracts. Ok so i am right shes trying to pull a fast one one me. So when she goes to phillipines i only have to pay her the normal 2000 dhs salary and buy her a ticket ? Not 4000dhs ? If we do not renew her contract this year we still pay her and extra 2000 dhs and money for airticket? after the contract has finished. The 13th month payment (or an extra month on top of month's salary) for the holidays is fairly typical so she may not be trying to pull a fast one. I would say that this March's trip is a delayed trip from last November and not an early trip for this coming November, which is what i believe she is trying to negotiate. edited by mover and a sheikha on 15/03/2011 MAAS, she is only working for her for 4 months, not 16 so she is not entitled to anything right now. Ah. That is a little too grasping..

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 20:16

Agree - Sounds about right to me. Contractually, 1 ticket per year or the money equiv. Also, you have to pay the salary for that month but not necessarily the 13th month bonus payment on top. We do pay the 13th month and have that as an caveat in our contracts. Ok so i am right shes trying to pull a fast one one me. So when she goes to phillipines i only have to pay her the normal 2000 dhs salary and buy her a ticket ? Not 4000dhs ? If we do not renew her contract this year we still pay her and extra 2000 dhs and money for airticket? after the contract has finished. The 13th month payment (or an extra month on top of month's salary) for the holidays is fairly typical so she may not be trying to pull a fast one. I would say that this March's trip is a delayed trip from last November and not an early trip for this coming November, which is what i believe she is trying to negotiate. edited by mover and a sheikha on 15/03/2011 MAAS, she is only working for her for 4 months, not 16 so she is not entitled to anything right now.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 19:29

Agree - Sounds about right to me. Contractually, 1 ticket per year or the money equiv. Also, you have to pay the salary for that month but not necessarily the 13th month bonus payment on top. We do pay the 13th month and have that as an caveat in our contracts. Ok so i am right shes trying to pull a fast one one me. So when she goes to phillipines i only have to pay her the normal 2000 dhs salary and buy her a ticket ? Not 4000dhs ? If we do not renew her contract this year we still pay her and extra 2000 dhs and money for airticket? after the contract has finished. The 13th month payment (or an extra month on top of month's salary) for the holidays is fairly typical so she may not be trying to pull a fast one. I would say that this March's trip is a delayed trip from last November and not an early trip for this coming November, which is what i believe she is trying to negotiate. <em>edited by mover and a sheikha on 15/03/2011</em>

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:38

If I understand, you hired her in November 2009, so in November 2010, you had to payer her a ticket home plus one month salary but she preferred going on holidays in March 2011. And now, she wants you to pay: (i) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2010 (the one that you didn't pay her in November because she was not going on holidays), plus (ii) one ticket plus one month salary for March 2011 (because she's going on holidays this March), and plus (iii) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2011 (at the expiry of her current contract). If I understand well, sorry to say that she thinks you're stupid. You have to pay her only (i) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2010 (the one that you didn't pay her in November because she was not going on holidays), plus (ii) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2011 (at the expiry of her current contract). That's all, anything beyond that is a gift, not contractual. Agree - Sounds about right to me. Contractually, 1 ticket per year or the money equiv. Also, you have to pay the salary for that month but not necessarily the 13th month bonus payment on top. We do pay the 13th month and have that as an caveat in our contracts. Ok so i am right shes trying to pull a fast one one me. So when she goes to phillipines i only have to pay her the normal 2000 dhs salary and buy her a ticket ? Not 4000dhs ? If we do not renew her contract this year we still pay her and extra 2000 dhs and money for airticket? after the contract has finished.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:33

She began with us in November 2010 so her contract will be up november 2011 thats when she wants months holiday pay and money for the air ticket home..(as she doeant want to go home) plus she says she wants to go to phillipines in march 2012 so then shes entilted to another months holiday and pay and ticket home... i said well if u want to go home in march we are not paying u holiday money in the november we will pay for it all in the march. i know its a long way off but shes sure she is right and this is wat her freind is getting. Do u have to pay them the airfare money if they are not going home ? from ure response i seem to be right ...Thanks KB75 yes, if they do not go home and have completed their one-year contract, they're entitled to be paid the airfare money plus one-month. You can pay her these amounts in November but in March she has to pay her own ticket and she's not entitled to have paid holidays. She's not right, you can call the ministry of Labor to check but I'm sure that she's wrong.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:31

If I understand, you hired her in November 2009, so in November 2010, you had to payer her a ticket home plus one month salary but she preferred going on holidays in March 2011. And now, she wants you to pay: (i) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2010 (the one that you didn't pay her in November because she was not going on holidays), plus (ii) one ticket plus one month salary for March 2011 (because she's going on holidays this March), and plus (iii) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2011 (at the expiry of her current contract). If I understand well, sorry to say that she thinks you're stupid. You have to pay her only (i) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2010 (the one that you didn't pay her in November because she was not going on holidays), plus (ii) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2011 (at the expiry of her current contract). That's all, anything beyond that is a gift, not contractual. Agree - Sounds about right to me. Contractually, 1 ticket per year or the money equiv. Also, you have to pay the salary for that month but not necessarily the 13th month bonus payment on top. We do pay the 13th month and have that as an caveat in our contracts.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:26

She began with us in November 2010 so her contract will be up november 2011 thats when she wants months holiday pay and money for the air ticket home..(as she doeant want to go home) plus she says she wants to go to phillipines in march 2012 so then shes entilted to another months holiday and pay and ticket home... i said well if u want to go home in march we are not paying u holiday money in the november we will pay for it all in the march. i know its a long way off but shes sure she is right and this is wat her freind is getting. Do u have to pay them the airfare money if they are not going home ? from ure response i seem to be right ...Thanks KB75

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:21

Your maid is entitled to one month off and airticket home per year. As she has worked a year for you already, she is entitled to this. As her contract is up in Nov and she does not want to go home then: She is entitled to her holiday Pay and cash for her ticket or a ticket itself. Pay her this and that is that on your part. The fact that she wants to go home in March doesn't affect you as she is NOT entitled for her second year holiday pay or airticket Yet. She only is entitled when she completes the Second year. If she wants to go in March it would strictly be Non-PAID holiday and she has to pay for her own ticket back. BECAUSE you have already paid for her holiday pay and the ticket back for the first year. However, she will still be entitled to her second year holiday pay and airticket back when she completes her second year.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:17

If I understand, you hired her in November 2009, so in November 2010, you had to payer her a ticket home plus one month salary but she preferred going on holidays in March 2011. And now, she wants you to pay: (i) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2010 (the one that you didn't pay her in November because she was not going on holidays), plus (ii) one ticket plus one month salary for March 2011 (because she's going on holidays this March), and plus (iii) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2011 (at the expiry of her current contract). If I understand well, sorry to say that she thinks you're stupid. You have to pay her only (i) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2010 (the one that you didn't pay her in November because she was not going on holidays), plus (ii) one ticket plus one month salary for November 2011 (at the expiry of her current contract). That's all, anything beyond that is a gift, not contractual.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 18:05

No u have to renew it for 12 months. yes thats what i thought as she doesnt want to go back to phillipines in the november( when we renew her visa) later in the march we will then pay her holiday and buy her a ticket then. so her basic wage is 2000 dhs so i pay her 4000 dhs and buy her a ticket home ? She wants 4000dhs and cash for the ticket home in november and pay her another 4000 dhs in the march and buy her a ticket home again 4 months later... All this seems like to much hassle than wat its worth :@

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 17:49

Have you renewed her contract only for the period from March to November? Is it possible? According to the sample contract in Dubai, you have to pay one ticket home and one month salary each year only.

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Latest post on 15 March 2011 - 17:37

My maids contract will be up in November, she wants to go back to phillipines in the march after we have renewed her contract,so we pay her an extra months salary and buy her a ticket in march... Then when her contract is up again the following november shes entilted to another months pay and air ticket home is this right? She said shes entitled to holiday pay and the money of her air ticket in the november when her contract is up ...then in march shes entilted to her one month in philipine and her ticket home. so in 16 months of working she is getting paid two months holiday a ticket home and cash for a ticket? All this is confusing :@

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