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"no cry sleep solution" Is it worth giving it a try?

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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 10:59

Has anyone tried it and can give some feedback? Should I buy the book?

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Latest post on 17 January 2011 - 16:02
Hi ladies DC, happy to read that things are improving for you and your LO! Do you (or any other ladies in the situation) mind sharing your daily routine with your baby, in terms of waking up, naps and feeding time, evening time etc? My DD is 7 months old and I am struggling to find a routine. She takes very short naps (30' if I am lucky) once or twice a day, but then in the evening she is overtired and it is difficult to settle her. She is also waking up 1 or 2 times a night, and unless I take her in our bed (I know, wrong habit...), she won't fall asleep by herself. She is still bf and eats solids 3x/day. Thanks in advance for any advice
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Latest post on 17 January 2011 - 09:37
DC, so happy to hear that you're getting on better with your LO's sleeping now. I remeber very well your thread from before x-mas. I totally agree with you that making the baby fit into your schedule instead of fitting your day around his needs, doesn't work. DD is so much happier now that she gets good naps in her crib instead of napping for a few minutes here and there. Every baby is different though, and for JJ it might work fine the other way around. And of course things will be different when you have 3 kids instead of 1. However I want to do the best for DD, and while I can afford the luxury of fitting my day around her, I will. It's only for a little while, soon she'll be grown up and I can do all the shopping, running erands and whatever else I want. nix, one thing I found is that it gets easier once the routine is established. When LO generally gets enough sleep and is well rested it's easier to skip a nap once in a while without the baby getting grumpy and upset. So after a couple of days with a strict routine, you can do your shopping and baby will take the nap a bit later of even skip it without problems. And I agree with DC, it makes life so much easier when you know you'll have some fixed time to yourself at home. Good luck!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 22:16
Thanks for the reassurance, JJ ... very nice of you!:)
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 22:15
Thanks, DC and JJ ... DS [i'>[/i'>[i'>will[/i'>[i'>[/i'> have to work around my schedule tomorrow, cause we need food!;) I'll give Cecile a call, I'm really struggling on my own and it's affecting my relationship with DS. And I can totally relate to that. Drop me a line if you like - catherine.rankin at hotmail.com.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 22:13
Thanks, DC and JJ ... DS [i'>[/i'>[i'>will[/i'>[i'>[/i'> have to work around my schedule tomorrow, cause we need food!;) I'll give Cecile a call, I'm really struggling on my own and it's affecting my relationship with DS. Do you have any firends here Nix? Consider joing a mums and baby group as well, think EW has something. Really all the best, this is just a phase most new mums go through, you will be fine with some good help and start to feel human again very soon! PS, delegate some food shopping to DH!
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 22:02
Thanks, DC and JJ ... DS [i'>[/i'>[i'>will[/i'>[i'>[/i'> have to work around my schedule tomorrow, cause we need food!;) I'll give Cecile a call, I'm really struggling on my own and it's affecting my relationship with DS.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 21:49
I really did intend to make sure DS fit in with me and not the other way round but I guess that just didn't suit him ;). I'm hoping we'll have far more flexibility a bit further down the line or there may not be number two and three! :D. And Amen to the support of another human being. That's been the turning point for us, not the library of books I've trawled through in desperation. <em>edited by DubaiCat on 16/01/2011</em>
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 21:46
Unfortunately I haven't found that to be true :(. Of course, we'll have to see what happens once our new routine is established and we try getting out and about more, but up until now DS just hasn't been able to get the sleep he's desperately needed if I've been trying to fit him into my day rather than having my day fit round him. I always said I'd never be one of those mums who can't do anything if it doesn't fit in with baby's routine but I can tell you, seven months of no more than two or three hours' sleep at a time has changed my attitude pretty d*mn quick. I do think you can read too much, though. Reading HSHHC in conjunction with seeing Cecile is working for us but I'm sure it's the human factor we get with Cecile that's driving it. She can personalise her advice, whereas a book can only generalise. Don;t worry DC when you get to number 3 you'll have it all working for you and down to a fine art! The support of another human is really so important when you get into a state and things seem a disaster, i'm all for routine don't get me wrong but somehow you will find a balance that works for both of you, sounds as if you have which is great.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 21:34
Unfortunately I haven't found that to be true :(. Of course, we'll have to see what happens once our new routine is established and we try getting out and about more, but up until now DS just hasn't been able to get the sleep he's desperately needed if I've been trying to fit him into my day rather than having my day fit round him. I always said I'd never be one of those mums who can't do anything if it doesn't fit in with baby's routine but I can tell you, seven months of no more than two or three hours' sleep at a time has changed my attitude pretty d*mn quick. I do think you can read too much, though. Reading HSHHC in conjunction with seeing Cecile is working for us but I'm sure it's the human factor we get with Cecile that's driving it. She can personalise her advice, whereas a book can only generalise.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 21:29
Thank you! I bought [i'>[/i'>[i'>Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child[/i'>[i'>[/i'>, but when I tell DH it's time for DS to go back down for a nap he thinks I'm stupid because DS hasn't been awake for hours and hours *insert angry smiley here* ... that's not helping the situation, cause then DS gets totally wired and it's really hard to get him to sleep. On a different note: with an awake time of an hour and a half, plus needing to nap in his crib, plus me having no help ... I'm finding it impossible to get anything done, I rarely even have groceries in the house :( How does everyone else manage? Whilst a book can help with guidlines for routines they are not the be all and end all. IMHO the best way to bring up children and babies is to make a routine fit around your day and needs, a baby can still get all the sleep needed not being in a cot for it's suggested session. The more you relax and just do what you would normally do the easier and more relaxed life will become.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 21:08
I'm reading that book too and it makes a lot of sense. I so hear you with the DH thing - "But he's smiling and happy!". Yeah, he's smiling and happy now, but give him two seconds and try to change his nappy and see how smiling and happy he is then! Berks, the lot of them. I think that's one of the key mistakes we make as new parents; we see a smiling, happy baby and we don't want to put them to bed because they're smiling and happy and we don't want to deprive them (or us) of fun time. We don't realise we're missing that golden opportunity to put them down when they're most able to go to sleep, and that we're not actually being unkind in putting them down for a nap - we're doing them a favour! Re finding time to do things, I've found this week that I have far more time to myself now he naps better and longer in the daytime. OK, so I can't go and get groceries, but I can do that with him in the afternoon when he wakes up from his midday nap. When I'm in the house with him I can get the washing and all that done. I can't really explain it but this past week, with him napping properly in the day, I've just felt like I've had so much more time to get things done.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 20:42
Thank you! I bought [i'>[/i'>[i'>Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child[/i'>[i'>[/i'>, but when I tell DH it's time for DS to go back down for a nap he thinks I'm stupid because DS hasn't been awake for hours and hours *insert angry smiley here* ... that's not helping the situation, cause then DS gets totally wired and it's really hard to get him to sleep. On a different note: with an awake time of an hour and a half, plus needing to nap in his crib, plus me having no help ... I'm finding it impossible to get anything done, I rarely even have groceries in the house :( How does everyone else manage?
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 20:23
She says every baby is different so it's hard to give a 'one size fits all' solution, but the key thing that seems to have made a difference to us is that he can only stay up for an hour and a half to a maximum of two hours in between naps. So, when the time comes for a nap or for bed at night, he's tired but he's not overtired and he is able to get himself off to sleep. Also, we do one or two bottle feeds in the night now, instead of me demand-feeding him every time he wakes up. It seems he had developed the habit of needing me and my b00bs to get back to sleep. We did have to do a kind of sleep training but again, it's different for every baby so you'd need to work out what will suit yours. For us, we could use anything to soothe him without picking him up - the first night it took us an hour and a half to get him to sleep, then next night 20 minutes and since then he's been going down every time with no fuss. I know you're going away but it might well be worth seeing her quickly before you go if she can fit you in. I wish I'd done that before I went home in December, because I just ended up making it a thousand times worse for myself while I was away. Good luck and I hope you get it sorted. I know first-hand how hard the sleep deprivation is and how hopeless you can feel. ETA: We're currently trying to identify what his individual 'tired but not overtired' cues are. Because I've been so exhausted I haven't been able to notice or remember them - or, more likely, I haven't realised what they were - so then he's been getting ridiculously overtired and has then been incapable of getting himself off to sleep. Common tired cues are sneezing and hiccuping but as yet I'm not sure what the rest of ours are! <em>edited by DubaiCat on 16/01/2011</em>
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 19:46
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room. That's wonderful news, DC. Would you mind sharing the cues you look out for and what your daily routine is like now? I'm having a really hard time with my 6m old ... I probably need to get in touch with Cecile as well, but we leave for the US in a few days, so I might as well wait until we get back.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 19:26
yes, it works! son has been sleeping through the night since he was about 6 weeks old....but (and it's a BIG BIG BUT) watch out if you travel through time zones a lot. Re adjusting is a nightmare. We've been in Dubai a week and my son has adjusted his schedule so he sleeps from noon till 8pm (still sleeping). He'll wake up, want his shower then his breakfast and then he'll want to go out. So as a 2 yr old, his schedule is set and we all have to deal with it. I hope to God that when we get back to London it'll sort itself out.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 19:11
Sorry, nipped off to start dinner. He's now seven and a half months old and we saw her for the first time just over a week ago. You can get her on cecilemidwife at littlewonders dot ae.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 18:59
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room. So good to hear things are going well for you DC!! Cecile is an amazing woman...so passionate about helping families. She is indeed and I wish I'd gone to her months ago! @Dubaicat: How old was DS when you talked to Cecile?
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 18:59
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room. So good to hear things are going well for you DC!! Cecile is an amazing woman...so passionate about helping families. She is indeed and I wish I'd gone to her months ago! @Dubaicat: How old was DS when you talked to Cecile?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 18:58
can you please share Ceciles Number? THX
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 17:11
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room. So good to hear things are going well for you DC!! Cecile is an amazing woman...so passionate about helping families. She is indeed and I wish I'd gone to her months ago!
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 16:54
Definitely - gave my copy away recently or would have gladly given it to you. Excellent book, saved my sanity. I didn't like the idea of the 'crying it out' method, so was relieved to find this book. Best if your partner reads it as well (mine did and now takes all the credit for getting our LO to sleep through....makes me laugh, but at least he finally did!).
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 15:31
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room. So good to hear things are going well for you DC!! Cecile is an amazing woman...so passionate about helping families.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 13:49
Definitely. I was so utterly exhausted I was completely incapable of reading his tired cues and it was just a downward spiral from when the problem started. Sitting down with Cecile, discussing all of his habits and working out a way forward was invaluable.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 13:41
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room. This is great advice, very often an outsider can view the dynamics in the house and help to support change having identified problem areas that a new or not so new mum may not have being too close and normally exhausted. I don't advocate leaving any child crying unless the parent is going to do harm to that child, then it is better to shut a door and spend 5 mins away to regain sanity or seek help. <em>edited by Jumeriah Jane on 16/01/2011</em>
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 13:36
I have used it. Tried all the techniques and unfortunately none worked. I'm sure some of the techniques would work for some children. It just didnt work for my DS. At 16 months my DS just miraculously started sleeping through the night all by himself.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 12:53
I would recommend seeing Cecile de Scally. I was close to a total breakdown, with DS waking anywhere up to every 45 minutes at night, and he now wakes twice - if that - and naps brilliantly during the day. It's taken us a week and at no stage have we left him screaming in his room.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 12:16
I haven't used it myself but have a number of friends who swear by it. Like happymommy, I read Marc Weisbluth's book and swear by it...although I used the routines, info on sleep cues etc and none of the CIO he suggests (for when all else fails). I bought it at Magrudy's.
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Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 12:09
Don't know that book. I got "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" by Dr.Marc Weissbluth after reading about it on this forum. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It worked magic for DD.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 11:50
I followed the Baby whisperer for a sleep solution for my LO's I would recommend reading the websites of various solutions see which one best suits you and then buy the book so that you have it handy for reference night and day.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 16 January 2011 - 11:38
no experience JJ but this forum has some great advice and reading about others experiences is always helpful... http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sleep
 
 

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