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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 16:17

as an aside, in 5 years i have NEVER had a pay slip.

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 14:49

oh man, great advice!! I love the confidentiality clause aspect and I will sooooo use this in the future. unfortunately I already answered one job's requirement to know my current, but this was to the recruiter only, and its for my second choice position anyways. would it be appropriate to ask the recruiter not to share with the client? or its probably too late for this one? Perhaps ask them to divulge your expectation only, at least then you are being honest and transparent which will help them send/review your profile for the correct roles and the potential employer knows the correct information too A good recruitment agency would only divulge the candidate's expectations rather than the current salary anyway. Agencies are there to help both parties meet in the middle.

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 14:31

oh man, great advice!! I love the confidentiality clause aspect and I will sooooo use this in the future. unfortunately I already answered one job's requirement to know my current, but this was to the recruiter only, and its for my second choice position anyways. would it be appropriate to ask the recruiter not to share with the client? or its probably too late for this one? Perhaps ask them to divulge your expectation only, at least then you are being honest and transparent which will help them send/review your profile for the correct roles and the potential employer knows the correct information too

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 13:41

I've changed jobs a few times. The prospective employer have always either made an offer or I've given my salary expectations, and when asked (once) I've given current salary info on a circa bases as well as the salary expectation. Never made to provide pay slips/pay certification, not sure that they can insist on it or verify it anyway. I would just address their request by giving them the salary expectations and avoid giving them payslips. Afterall, why would you change jobs for the sake of it, changing company and into the unknown if you are going to be paid around the same?! <em>edited by Sugarbeach on 22/01/2013</em>

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 13:25

I have had a couple of interviews and they have always asked what salary I am looking for, It's very hard as I am quite new to UAE and don't really know the current rates, I tried to put the ball back in their court and ask what the salary range was, didn't work last time, I had to pick a rate that I would be happy taking so now I don't know if I under sold myself?

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 13:09

oh man, great advice!! I love the confidentiality clause aspect and I will sooooo use this in the future. unfortunately I already answered one job's requirement to know my current, but this was to the recruiter only, and its for my second choice position anyways. would it be appropriate to ask the recruiter not to share with the client? or its probably too late for this one?

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 12:07

To be honest, a company insisting on knowing what I currently earn before making me an offer would set alarm bells ringing immediately, and I certainly would never show them a salary slip. They should be paying you what [i'>they [/i'>think you are worth, not what another company thinks you're worth. As such, your current salary shouldn't be of any interest to them whatsoever. I'd simply hide behind a confidentiality clause as mentioned below by marycatherine and insist on giving your expectations only. What you earned in the past is utterly irrelevant to their future employment of you. At the very least they should respect the fact that you are steadfastly honouring a commitment made to your existing employer. edited by HereComesTheSun on 22/01/2013 I absolutely agree. Alarm bells are already going off in my head. Any reputable company would know what the market rate is for a position andwould have established a range for that position ( Junior, Intermidate, Senior...) and a corresponding salary scale. It is really none of their business how much you earn currently. They are trying to low ball you. As MC said, hide behind the confidentialty clause. <em>edited by derien on 22/01/2013</em>

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 11:08

on the flip side, Ive seen people who inflate their salary and when asked for a salary certificate, they get caught out and we dont take them on . Its plain and simple. Dishonesty and if they have lied about that what else have they lied about. Its part of the due diligence that an employer / recruiter has to do. I would however, only provide this information at offer stage and not before.

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 11:07

To be honest, a company insisting on knowing what I currently earn before making me an offer would set alarm bells ringing immediately, and I certainly would never show them a salary slip. They should be paying you what [i'>they [/i'>think you are worth, not what another company thinks you're worth. As such, your current salary shouldn't be of any interest to them whatsoever. I'd simply hide behind a confidentiality clause as mentioned below by marycatherine and insist on giving your expectations only. What you earned in the past is utterly irrelevant to their future employment of you. At the very least they should respect the fact that you are steadfastly honouring a commitment made to your existing employer. edited by HereComesTheSun on 22/01/2013 I would like to add that i would try and find out their budget first so we dont waste each others time Alot of employers will ask for proof and you will be amazed at the amount of people who will provide this information

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:58

To be honest, a company insisting on knowing what I currently earn before making me an offer would set alarm bells ringing immediately, and I certainly would never show them a salary slip. They should be paying you what [i'>they [/i'>think you are worth, not what another company thinks you're worth. As such, your current salary shouldn't be of any interest to them whatsoever. I'd simply hide behind a confidentiality clause as mentioned below by marycatherine and insist on giving your expectations only. What you earned in the past is utterly irrelevant to their future employment of you. At the very least they should respect the fact that you are steadfastly honouring a commitment made to your existing employer. <em>edited by HereComesTheSun on 22/01/2013</em>

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:55

In my own experience, my employment contracts here and in my home country have required that I do not discuss my salary with anyone inside or outside of the company, that the information is confidential. If a potential new employer asked me for the info, I would refuse to give it on those grounds. I've never been asked. Would you want to know what their budget was for the role?

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:37

In my own experience, my employment contracts here and in my home country have required that I do not discuss my salary with anyone inside or outside of the company, that the information is confidential. If a potential new employer asked me for the info, I would refuse to give it on those grounds. I've never been asked.

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:29

Explain what you explained in your original post, that you took a drop in salary when you arrived from the USA (give your last salary there as justification, maybe?) in order to gain UAE experience, now you have it, so you are definitely worth double what you are currently being paid. I wouldn't embroider the truth as you will be up the creek without a paddle if they ask to see your salary slip.

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:27

yes I agree for salary expectations, but they want to know my current salary too. how can ask for a salary that is double my current? wont that make me look like I'm not worth it?

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:23

it's normal for interviewers to ask for the current salary and I know few companies who actually ask for the salary slip. In your case, I wouldn't inflate your current salary, but would say that your salary expectation is as per industry/profession range

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 10:03

I am in the process of interviewing for a couple of great jobs, and they have asked what my current salary is - I have already deflected them with the common "prefer not to disclose yet" and "would prefer to know what the job is offering", etc etc. but I am at the point now where they are requiring I tell them my current salary. my current job pays not nearly what I should be earning, but I accepted the job anyways because it was my first job coming to Dubai from the U.S. and I looked at it as gaining experience in the UAE. but seriously, since I came here and now know the market, its literally half of what I want to be earning and could be earning. So is it ok to inflate my pay? can I say I am making more than I am, so that I can be considered for a better salary? do they check or ask for verification?? any advice ladies please!! It is common for clients to ask you and the same would be asked from a recruitment agency helping you find work. Personally speaking i would never inflate my salary i would tell them what i was looking for.

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Latest post on 22 January 2013 - 09:59

I am in the process of interviewing for a couple of great jobs, and they have asked what my current salary is - I have already deflected them with the common "prefer not to disclose yet" and "would prefer to know what the job is offering", etc etc. but I am at the point now where they are requiring I tell them my current salary. my current job pays not nearly what I should be earning, but I accepted the job anyways because it was my first job coming to Dubai from the U.S. and I looked at it as gaining experience in the UAE. but seriously, since I came here and now know the market, its literally half of what I want to be earning and could be earning. So is it ok to inflate my pay? can I say I am making more than I am, so that I can be considered for a better salary? do they check or ask for verification?? any advice ladies please!!

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