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To any ladies who've done IVF/ICSI...

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Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 11:38

Hi Ladies,

I'm currently undergoing my first ICSI cycle. I've been stimming with Gonal F and Cetrotide til today and have my trigger shot this evening and my egg retrieval on Thursday morning. I've been reasonably calm til now but for no reason whatsoever I feel so apprehensive today about the coming few days to the point where I'm crying in front of my laptop right now with sheer terror!

I don't know anyone else who has gone through this so if there's anyone out there who can offer any reassuring words of experience I'd REALLY appreciate it!

Thanks a million!

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Latest post on 10 November 2012 - 18:23
Hi everyone, hope you don't mind me jumping into your conversation. I am about to start my 1st IVF after 3 failed IUIs. I noticed that you've mentioned freezing the embies.. I thought that was banned in the UAE? Please let me know if you know otherwise.. It'd be great to use a clinic which allows freezing. Thanks
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Latest post on 07 November 2012 - 12:55
Hi Zoco As somebody who has also considered this to be the end of the road after a very tough year of ivf I can only echo what Dallydoo says. All is NOT lost and there are other options to consider - when you are ready. I also get the impression that you have time on your side which is an advantage. Best of luck and big hugs. This is the most heartbreaking process when it goes wrong but the reward when it goes to plan will be so worth it. Well that's what I keep praying for anyway. Take good care of yourself.xxx
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Latest post on 07 November 2012 - 10:55
Hi zoco, Im not sure if you will be back on this board but I just wanted to say how very sorry I am that you have been through such a rough time. I can relate to and understand your feelings and like you said, would not wish it on my worst enemy. Take some time out to concentrate on yourself and hubby and be good to yourselves. It really is a very rocky road and a difficult situation to have to deal with. However, please do remember that there are alternative options out there that are worth exploring such as egg donation, adoption etc. If these are roads that you would be comfortable exploring, then it doesnt have to be the end of the road for you. Again, I just wanted to say how very sorry I am for your disappointment and wish you the very best. Take care of yourself and stay strong! x
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Latest post on 06 November 2012 - 22:00
Hi Allowicious, So very sorry to hear you got a negative - I can totally empathize with your disappointment but I'm glad that you're starting to feel positive and looking forward to starting another cycle... hopefully soon! Good luck for your follow up appointment, I hope the next try will be the one for you :) Unfortunately I also had a negative, as expected but it was still a disappointment - when I spoke to the hospital in the morning and told them I had a negative hpt they told I shouldn't give up hope as the blood test may still be positive but then took from 9.30am to 4.45pm to tell us that it was indeed negative - a VERY long day as you can imagine! :( Sadly for us I think this is the end of the road. The Dr's told us that with 3 such good looking embies, my age and health, we should have had at least a single pregnancy easily so they think it is due to chromosomal problems that none took (and we didn't get any to freeze) and it would likely be the same result if we were to try again. With this in mind we're not planning to try again which has been quite a shock to deal with but I'm not sure we would cope with the strain of another failed attempt as well as the strain on our finances (we also have medical expenses to pay for family back home so it was a major stretch to pay for the first attempt) :( Feeling kind of blue, got my period today too to compound matters - I've spent the day with a hot water bottle on the sofa watching old James Bond movies! :) I sway between weeping self pity and feeling that there are much worse problems in the world so I need to cheer up! We've decided to take some time to think and will decide how to move forward in the New Year when hopefully we'll be feeling a little calmer after the emotional roller coaster of the last couple of years. In the interests of my sanity I don't think I'll be around on this board too much in the immediate future but you will remain in my thoughts and prayers and I wish you every success in the coming cycle, I dearly hope you get to add to your family. I wouldn't wish this particular journey on my worst enemy but despite the difficulties and the negative outcome I would still encourage others to try IVF, I've heard so many success stories and even though it hasn't worked for us I've been stunned to discover the world hasn't stopped turning and DH and I have become a much stronger couple so it's not all bad :) Stay strong and good luck to all those going through this weird and wonderful journey, wishing you every success xxxx
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Latest post on 05 November 2012 - 14:33
Hey Zocco, how are you today? I had my blood test today (late because of a mess up with papaerwork!) and confirmed negative :( Its very odd but 5 days after the transfer I knew it hadn't worked! I was feeling a bit low yesterday because I stupidly did a home pregnancy test, so think I spent most of the day crying. Then this morning after going to the clinic and the Dr calling me and telling me I don't have to wait two whole cycles I felt much better and can feel my positivity coming back and my eagerness to get moving on the next cycle. I haven't decided if we will go with her again yet but we will be going to the follow-up consultation in 2 weeks time and will decide after that. How did your test go? was it what you thought? If you have to do another cycle did you get eggs to freeze? I didn't so can't do FET. I only pop on here every few days but please keep me updated, my fingers are crossed for some good news for you x x
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Latest post on 02 November 2012 - 15:54
Hi Allowicious, I'm so sorry to hear that - I've been thinking about you a lot the past few days and really had my fingers crossed for you. I'm in the same boat, 10dp5dt today and got a BFN this morning :( I have my BETA tomorrow too but am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. Oh how this whole thing sucks! Feeling very low and frustrated by the 'unfariness' of it all today but I hope once we get a final answer tomorrow it will at least enable us to move on with our lives. Thinking of you xx
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Latest post on 02 November 2012 - 12:13
Hey Zocco how are you? I am 10 days after the egg transfer today and had BFN this morning. I am guessing if it was positive it would have shown by now. Have my beta tomorrow. Am gutted to say the least. Because my cycles are so long and they like you to have two periods so your ovarys can heal I won't be able to try another go for probably 6 months now :( I HATE waiting! Good luck to you x
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Latest post on 27 October 2012 - 08:52
Hi Allowicious, So sorry to hear you've had such a rough time of it :( It sounds like your clinic weren't very clear on explaining why they were doing what they were doing, you should definitely try to get some answers from them so you can adjust any further cycles you may want to do. I understand your DH's feelings about Dr Fakih, we were the same and I have to say I don't regret for a second going with New Hope. We can honestly say that if it doesn't go as we hoped we did everything humanly possible this time - everything was explained to us throughout and I felt very able to ask questions - the Dr even gave us her private cell phone number in case we want to check anything with her out of hours. At all times I was made aware of why she was doing what she was doing and was given options, if there were any, so I felt very in control. They were also happy to come in for ET on Fridays, holidays or just super early (as in my case) - they understood that my DH travels a lot and tried to work around this as much as possible and were my 'family' when I had to go in alone when he was out of the country. I cannot recommend them highly enough! I have my fingers and toes crossed for us both, you never know, as Flower33 said - it only takes one! PS. What does OTD mean? Is it the preganancy test or something else? I am going for my PG test on the 3rd, so not sure if I should be testing earlier based on your date??!
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Latest post on 26 October 2012 - 19:42
Hi everyone, Zocco we had a very similar experience :( I had my EC on 21st, they got 10 eggs out of the 12 follies. The EC was a horrible experience that I will not repeat without GA. They gave me a double dose of sedation and I didn't sleep and felt every moment of it :( After it was over I felt fine and just had some cramping. The next morning no phonecall - I knew that this meant bad news, and I was right. My DH's fresh sample contained no swimmers so they had to use frozen. They thawed one stack but none of the swimmers were usable, they thawed the second stack and were able to use that. Four of my eggs were no good, I don't know if this meant they were bad quality or not mature enough? Our of the 6 left only three were injectable and 24 hours later only one of them was showing signs of fertilisation. On the 23rd I went in to have ET and had 2 embies back. Both had shown signs of fertilisation but they didn't tell me to what state of division they were in, all I know is that on the monitor before they went into the catheter they looked totally different to the other eggs that were no good. my third egg did not fertilise. So I have 2 on board and they were really a 2 day transfer as the Dr said they would be better off inside me than in the lab. I found ET easy, that day I rested at home. The next morning I had bloating and some pain but not unmanageable. Late afternoon I bloated up to popping point, had pain when stood, sat or lying down and was in agony with trapped wind! I stayed in bed feeling awful. This morning the bloating has gone down and I can move again :) TBH I am not feeling very hopeful, it didn't go as I wanted at all and I think I would be loathe to go through all that again with the same clinic. Once my ovaries have healed Dr Fakih is our next option, I need results and knew I should have gone with him in the first place but went with Dr Munira because my DH didn't like Dr Fakih and needed someone who could explain and go through it with him. Dr M is lovely but I think she played it too safe with me and I also feel our IVF was rushed so that it would all be over before Eid holiday. I'm no expert but on my last scan I only had 2 follies that were over 18mm and in the UK they don't do the trigger shot normally till you have 3. I'm guessing that my follies weren't mature enough but if I had stimmed for a few more days my ET would have fallen in Eid!!! I would love to be proved wrong on my OTD 2nd November :) Good luck to you Zoco :) p.s. sorry for the essay!
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Latest post on 24 October 2012 - 19:00
Good luck zoco, i feel your disappointed. As you I wanted to have a back up embies in case none of them stick. Both my cycles i had 6-8 eggs retrieved nd 3 put in and none of the remaining made it to freeze. Cheer up, it takes only one to stick! Second would b a bonus!
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Latest post on 24 October 2012 - 18:38
Just a quick update... I had the embryo transfer yesterday at 5 days and we transferred 3 (1 good and 2 not so good). It was completely painless and finally this morning I woke up hungry after days of nausea and vomiting so I'm feeling a bit more human which is nice... so now the wait begins.... we get to test on the 3rd and I'm already counting the days :) We only had 3 embies in the end, so none left to freeze which was a little disappointing but for now I'm trying to think positively about the ones we did put back and hoping that someone manages to stick! :) Allowicious - how did your egg collection go? Hope you're feeling OK?
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Latest post on 21 October 2012 - 07:54
Best of luck for today Allowicious, hope it all goes well :)
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Latest post on 20 October 2012 - 19:44
The trigger was different for me, I was told only to take half the dose in the pre-filled syringe so we marked off a line (making sure the air bubble was out the way) and then I did go slightly over the line. I have no idea why it was half a dose for me?? You know, with regards to your eggs (and you shouldn't be dissapointed with 7 although I know what you mean when ur hopes have been raised by the number they got out) I am sure that they do the trigger a bit early in this country. I read in the UK it should be done when you have 3 or more follies over 18mm but I only had 2 that size when I triggered. The others are expected to catch up in the 36 hours before collection but if they are still immature when they come out then they are unlikely to fertilise. What has happened to you is also my concern but saying that, I would be grateful for any amount right now. I can't wait till tommorrow is over and done with but I am impatient and hate waiting so the slog through to Friday (My ET date) will be long and hard and the further slog through to OTD will be even longer and harder lol!!! So glad you don't have any side effects, hope it stays like that for you. When is your ET?
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Latest post on 19 October 2012 - 12:50
Thanks everyone once again, I gain so much reassurance and support from all your replies and really feel like you know just how I'm feeling! Well, we had the phone call a couple of hours ago to let us know about fertilization - only 7 have fertilized, the embryologist reassured us that that was still a decent number and of course you really only need one but I still can't help feeling a bit flat after yesterday's elation :( Now we wait and see..... I started on the Progesterone supp's last night, so far no side effects :) I also started the Dostinex last night ( I was warned this has some quite vomit-y side effects but again, so far so good!) as I was displaying some symptoms of OHSS yesterday evening but these seem to have cleared for now. I am also downing gallons of water, quite literally, my insides feel like they're sloshing around in me right now! Allowicious, I only showed 14/15 follies on my last scan, the Dr told me there's usually a few hidden behind that you can only see once you start aspiration. I'm sure they will be ready - most of mine were showing at between 13.0mm and 16.0mm 48 hours before collection. The trigger shot was painless, my cousin (who gave me all my shots) said the needle was slightly more awkward and the Dr told us that the important thing with the trigger shot is to make sure you don't waste ANY as it's such a precise dose. So when you clear the air you just want the tiniest drop to show on the tip of the needle (don't be shooting fountains in the air as we did a few times with the cetrotide! ;)) and make sure that you hold it in for a few seconds after depressing the plunger before removing the needle. Fingers crossed for this evening, and of course for Sunday - waiting to hear your updates too! xxx
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Latest post on 19 October 2012 - 11:55
Thats really fantastic Zoco, well done, fingers crossed for you! You'll be checking your phone every second waiting for that phonecall now ;) Glad ur not having any major pain too. Our problem is MFI too and it worries me that the swimmers may not be good enough but we managed to concieve naturally 2 years ago with only 10million and 20% motility so the ones that were swimming must have been good quality right? Our IVF Dr said that we were very lucky to have caught with that amount and she seemed fairly hopeful that this could work. Last scan yesterday showed 12 follies, all above 13mm but only one above 18mm and that was actually 22mm So I am praying that they are ready in time as EC is def Sunday morning! I am doing my trigger shot tonight but it's under my tummy button again so I'm ok with that. Have been googling all day and reading up on whats next and other's experiences - so thanks for sharing :) and I will share my story come Sunday x
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Latest post on 19 October 2012 - 11:50
Wow Zoco, it's really good news!!! Enjoy your weekend and pls keep us updated. xx
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Latest post on 18 October 2012 - 19:43
Fantastic result Zoco!! Wow that's an a amazing number! Likely that you had the antibiotic via your canula as tabby cat said as I have on each occasion. Wishing you all the best :) Enjoy your weekend and relax. What a fabulous result! :)x
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Latest post on 18 October 2012 - 19:06
Aw well done Zoco, that is an amazing number of eggs! You can relax and put your feet up for now. You may have been given antibiotics via the canula. Different clinics seem to do different things, sometimes I've taken them after, sometimes not. Maybe give your clinic a ring to clarify if you're worried. Best of luck with the fertilisation, nail biting times I know over the next few days. xxx
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Latest post on 18 October 2012 - 17:52
Thanks everyone for the continuing support! Dallydoo and Allowicious, it's great to hear of others in the same boat. Allowicious - wishing you all the very best for Sunday - I'll be thinking of you :) So, everything went well this morning :) I had sedation so was in and out of it for the whole procedure (I thought I was in there for 10 mins though DH says it more like an hour - so it can't have been that bad!) They retrieved 26 eggs!! I don't think any of expected that kind of result. Now we just have to hope they were able to find enough normal swimmers to use fertilize them all :) For the first time in weeks I don't feel super bloated and although I'm a tad uncomfortable I'm definitely not in pain (more like period pains). You were all so right - the canula was the worst part! I'll start progesterone tonight and also Dostirex to prevent OHSS. I just realised I haven't been given any antibiotics though - does anyone know if that's normal or should I chase up my Dr and request some? Now the waiting begins - hopefully we'll make it a Day 5 transfer on Tuesday...
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Latest post on 18 October 2012 - 17:36
Hey Zoco. Just to let you know I've been thinking of you today. I really hope it all went well and that you are now chilled and relaxing. :) xx
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Latest post on 17 October 2012 - 17:17
Allowicious, thank god for our lovely DH's through all this!! I also have one ovary working and it sounds to me like you are doing really well in terms of the number of follicles. Good Luck to both of you. Zoco - please let us know how it goes. Will be thinking of you in the morning. :) xxx
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Latest post on 17 October 2012 - 15:40
Hi Zoco, someone in the same situation as me :) I am a little behind you in my IVF as my egg collection isn't until Sunday. I have been a slow responder otherwise it would have been Thursday too. So far I have done all the injections myself as I am not scared of needles and although I did mess up one and ended up with half a dose I have managed all the others no problem. When it comes to giving myself a shot in the backside or thigh it might be a different story! I too have found this an emotional rollercoaster, one day I am happy and positive and then next wishing I had a bottle of prozac lol!!! I cried at my OBGYN's yesterday and told her I wanted to cancel my cycle as I didn't have as many follies as I wanted. Of course it was the hormones talking and now I feel a fool. My DH has been amazing and I couldn't have done this without his support, he was the voice of reason yesterday and saved me from pulling the plug on everything. My right ovary doesn't work but my left one has 8 large follies and 10 smaller ones. My right one is paining me quite badly which the Dr cannot explain :( Otherwise everything has been ok so far. I was on 75/75 menopur/gonal-f but am now on 112.5 gonal-F and cetrotide (which brings me out in a rash). I haven't had my egg collection yet but I have had a needle aspiration before under sedation. If you would rather sleep then try to do some deep and slow breathing and a little relaxation exercise when you start at your feet, tense them for a few secs and then release and then work up your body until every part of you is relaxed. if you are relaxed you are more likley to fall asleep and miss all the procedure. Some women have pain after so take some paracetamol (sure the clinic will give you something anyway) but not all do so don't worry (ha ha! says she who is also freaking out!). I try to check in here most days so would love to get an update of how your procedure went :) Lots of luck to you, lets hope they get lots of lovely healthy eggs and they all fertilise, will keep my fingers crossed for you x
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Latest post on 17 October 2012 - 13:15
Hi Zoco, Sorry I have just seen your thread now. I can totally relate to what you are going through. We had treatment earlier this year and it is a bit of a rollercoaster ride for sure! But you have to put all of that down to hormones and remember that what you are doing, as difficult as it is at the moment, is a means to an end. Any of the ladies who have been down that road know how difficult this is but once you get your result, it will all seem a distant memory to you. Please try to relax and just focus on why you are doing all of this. Try to keep yourself busy and, as difficult as it is, try not to dwell on it too much. I think that really makes it easier. I wish you all the very best for the next few days!
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Latest post on 17 October 2012 - 09:07
I don't think that half an hour would really count, but I'd inform my Dr just to be on the safe side. Gooood luck!!!! :) and keep us updated! XXx
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Latest post on 17 October 2012 - 08:27
Thanks Tabby, Labrador and Flower - it's so encouraging to hear your success stories :) So I managed my last shot (the trigger) last night after a 'Challenge Annika' style dash around Dubai! Unfortunately the nurse couldn't get to me so suggested we went to any Doctor/Nurse and get them to give me the shot. We then went to Medcare, WellCare, Rashid Hospital, and American Hospital, all of whom refused to administer it to me as it was not prescribed to me by them :-( Eventually after a lot of tears and frantic phone calls (my shot was supposed to be at 8pm and we were still at American hospital at 8.10pm!) my cousin saved the day and I had it at 8.30pm which the Dr tells me isn't a problem. Did anyone else have their trigger late and was it OK? Thanks for all the support, it's so nice to hear others' experiences (and know they survived;)). I'll keep you posted...
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Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 20:50
Zoco - my best wishes. Sending positive thoughts your way! Stay away from google friend, I really wish I wasn't reading much at that time. I was drowning in my thoughts during 2ww and after! As confusion said, I thank God my dh was /is really patient man, otherwise I would b divorced before the BETA test! I never believed at hormonal excuse, until I rode one. We did 2ivf/icsi due to tubal and mf and both were successfull. You have great no of follicles, wish you all the luck!
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Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 20:12
I also wanted to wish you good luck. I know what you're going through I did the same exactly a year ago. Now I have a 10 week old baby girl sleeping in my arm. :-) Try not to stress too much ( I know it's easier to say than done) it's really worth it. Sending you lots of positive vibes and big hugs
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Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 15:13
Zoco – Just also wanted to wish you good luck. What a great number of follicles you have. I admit to being the biggest wimp when it comes to all things medical but I have managed 4 ICSI cycles and a FET and really didn’t find it too bad, just felt asleep for all my egg collections. You can do it! I am now 6 months pregnant from my last cycle so it was all totally worth it.
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Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 13:45
Oh thanks so much everyone! Poppy82 - thanks so much for your kind words, I read your own post earlier and like you I cannot offer personal experience in your situation but I do most sincerely send you my love and best wishes x Confusion - there are definitely hormones flying around all over the show - I'm now sitting here bawling my eyes out because you're all so lovely! I take my hat off to you - I don't know how you've managed to get through so many tries, you're really an inspiration! x Hilsbils - I've been told the same re. prep for the day in addition to nil by mouth after midnight the previous night. So far eggs look good and there seem to be 10-15 follicles - we have MFI so I'm hoping that if we manage to get some fertilised we will have a reasonable chance of success as my bits appear to be working as required so far... I've read some of your recent posts and hope you're doing OK, I've learnt so much from your posts and want to thank you for sharing and wish you all the best x I'm being treated at New Hope Hospital in Sharjah where I have the loveliest doctor imaginable who has been like gold throughout so far. We did go for a consult with Fakih but neither of us felt comfortable there as it seemed to be less personal and all about money though I believe they have good results. New Hope is slightly more expensive (and a much further trek) but throughout I feel I have been treated as an individual and cared for in a very personal way. This for us was a big thing as although we are obviously hoping for a positive outcome I do need that little bit of bedside manner too as I am petrified of needles and DH is petrified of ANYTHING medical (first consult we had to stand outside for 5 mins while he hyperventilated into a paper bag - and that was before anything had even happened!) :-) One of the nurses at the hospital is being kind enough to give me the trigger this evening knowing how bad I am with needles and wanting me to relax and not worry about whether we've done it right (which has been a theme so far!) :-) Thanks for cheering a very blue little me up today, I am feeling more relaxed and will probably read this thread a hundred times in the next 2 days to reassure myself! So far the 'washing' bit sounds the most fun part of this rather strange journey to date - I'll look forward to a good tickle! ;-)
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Latest post on 16 October 2012 - 12:55
I hear you about the washing Hilsbils - in fact that was the bit I was dreading last time as am so ticklish but I was out for the count at that point. Particularly comfy stirrups at Fakih too I must say ;)
 
 

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