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Speeding ticket UK

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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 09:38

Hi, I just wanted to get some advise. I borrowed a friends car in Dec last year and she was sent a speeding ticket that I got, she wrote to them as I my address had change and inform then it should be on my license. She wrote to them twice and I still have not heard anything, I am now worried as its been over six months. I am returning to the UK in a few weeks, do anyone know what sort of trouble can you get into for not paying a ticket for so long? And, I never changed my address....all my own fault but stressing about it. I had no points on my license before.

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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 July 2014 - 01:41
So what's the big deal? The OP just needs to say she was driving on her UAE licence, which is the correct legal way for her to have been driving. The police can't add points to a UAE licence, so she'll just pay the fine. This ticket was issued seven months ago, the police really won't have any interest in pursuing this any further than payment of the fine. <em>edited by Madge_Gustard on 04/07/2014</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 04 July 2014 - 00:38
I am just worried as I have seen this now that you should not be driving on your UK license now if you have been living out of the country for over one year It's not a year. Your UK licence becomes invalid the moment you cease to be a permanent UK resident, which is effectively the moment you get your UAE residency. [b'>In any event, there's no need for you to raise the subject of the licence you were using. It's completely irrelevant at this distance. Just keep it all about the fine[/b'>. Unfortunately the licence is not irrelevant, it's the whole problem - speeding fines are £60 plus 3 points on the LICENCE, therefore sadly the main thing they are interested in is the licence. :(
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 23:02
I am just worried as I have seen this now that you should not be driving on your UK license now if you have been living out of the country for over one year It's not a year. Your UK licence becomes invalid the moment you cease to be a permanent UK resident, which is effectively the moment you get your UAE residency. In any event, there's no need for you to raise the subject of the licence you were using. It's completely irrelevant at this distance. Just keep it all about the fine.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 22:57
Never drive on your UK license if you could use your UAE one instead Legally, you have no choice. Once you are no longer a permanent UK resident your UK licence becomes invalid and you *must* use your UAE one. Car hire companies are as clueless about this as many expats and will happily accept your UK licence, but if you are involved in an accident and it all goes pear-shaped, *you're* the one on the hook, not the car hire company. Bottom line - NEVER use your UK licence when hiring a car in the UK. And if you get caught for points they can't put then on your UAE licence !! lol
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 22:53
Never drive on your UK license if you could use your UAE one instead Legally, you have no choice. Once you are no longer a permanent UK resident your UK licence becomes invalid and you *must* use your UAE one. Car hire companies are as clueless about this as many expats and will happily accept your UK licence, but if you are involved in an accident and it all goes pear-shaped, *you're* the one on the hook, not the car hire company. Bottom line - NEVER use your UK licence when hiring a car in the UK.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 13:19
They traced DH through the car hire company, wrote to us at the address we had used in the UK and a friend told us about the fine. I did contact them straight away but after emails going backwards and forwards they decided not to pursue the matter. I think that was because we lived here and it made things difficult. The speeding fine a few years ago would have been £60.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 13:13
Never drive on your UK license if you could use your UAE one instead - although you can get speeding fines on both, if you're using your UK license you can also get speeding points on it but not on the UAE license. Found this out the hard way... How much was your speeding ticket, if you dont mind me asking? How no idea what I might be in for?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 13:12
Never drive on your UK license if you could use your UAE one instead - although you can get speeding fines on both, if you're using your UK license you can also get speeding points on it but not on the UAE license. Found this out the hard way...
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 12:55
Unless things have changed in the last few years you need to contact the local Police Force's Fixed Penalty Office in the area where you got the fine and ask to speak to the speed camera department as it is the police who issue them not the DVLA. Then you can go one of two ways... Either way, first of all you need to explain about it being your friends car and that she did return the form but you haven't heard anything since because you live abroad now and your friend put your old UK address on it which is why it has taken so long for you to contact them (what exactly did your friend tell them, they should have just returned the form with your contact details on? Why did she write to them twice? Did she get another Fixed Penalty Notice?). Then you can lie and say you were on your UAE licence and possibly send it to them if they ask and they will return it to you and write off the ticket. Unless they have reason to disbelieve you, they don't start looking into insurance etc, they simply don't have time and that's not their department. The other way is to admit you were driving on your UK licence and feign ignorance. However.... depending on the force, you MAY (and I stress "may" very strongly) end up in court as you were legally driving on an invalid licence and without insurance. Ignorance is NOT a defence (extreme example - but if a foreigner drink-drives and pleads ignorance as their country has a higher level allowed, then they will still be arrested...). On the other hand, if your friend did write to them and explain you lived abroad, they may have already written it off. But your first port of call is the local Police Force's Fixed Penalty Office. Either way, don't stress too much, you won't be arrested entering or even then leaving the country! And even if they do end up wanting to take you to court, I believe they can do it in your absence. Just always remember, no matter who you talk to - be really grovellingly apologetic and don't end up in court like a step-family member of mine did, simply because she was a bolshy so-and-so, so they took her to court because the COULD! :D Thank you so much for your advise and reassurance. I was on my friends insurance and we thought we did everything by the book, I genuinely did not know about not being allowed to used my UK license. She wrote to them twice as she heard nothing back from before. I think I will just be honest and see what happens. Thanks, again
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 11:22
Unless things have changed in the last few years you need to contact the local Police Force's Fixed Penalty Office in the area where you got the fine and ask to speak to the speed camera department as it is the police who issue them not the DVLA. Then you can go one of two ways... Either way, first of all you need to explain about it being your friends car and that she did return the form but you haven't heard anything since because you live abroad now and your friend put your old UK address on it which is why it has taken so long for you to contact them (what exactly did your friend tell them, they should have just returned the form with your contact details on? Why did she write to them twice? Did she get another Fixed Penalty Notice?). Then you can lie and say you were on your UAE licence and possibly send it to them if they ask and they will return it to you and write off the ticket. Unless they have reason to disbelieve you, they don't start looking into insurance etc, they simply don't have time and that's not their department. The other way is to admit you were driving on your UK licence and feign ignorance. However.... depending on the force, you MAY (and I stress "may" very strongly) end up in court as you were legally driving on an invalid licence and without insurance. Ignorance is NOT a defence (extreme example - but if a foreigner drink-drives and pleads ignorance as their country has a higher level allowed, then they will still be arrested...). On the other hand, if your friend did write to them and explain you lived abroad, they may have already written it off. But your first port of call is the local Police Force's Fixed Penalty Office. Either way, don't stress too much, you won't be arrested entering or even then leaving the country! And even if they do end up wanting to take you to court, I believe they can do it in your absence. Just always remember, no matter who you talk to - be really grovellingly apologetic and don't end up in court like a step-family member of mine did, simply because she was a bolshy so-and-so, so they took her to court because the COULD! :D
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:56
Don't stress about it and I would just deal with it when you get to the UK. Unlike here, you won't be arrested at the airport, lol I think the worst case scenario is that they will have added further penalties for non-payment. DH got a speeding ticket when we were there a few years ago but we didn't know about it until we were back here. We cooperated with the UK police and were quite willing to pay the fine, but in the end they said 'forget it'. I am just worried as I have seen this now that you should not be driving on your UK license now if you have been living out of the country for over one year and should use your UAE license....lol, I was stressing that I would be arrested at the airport ;-/ And, also the address is registered at my mums old address and she is no longer there.....How long had your DH ticket been outstanding before you contacted them? They wont arrest you for a speeding fine Just call them when you get back and explain what has happens feign ignorance regarding not knowing you cannot drive on a UK licence when you are a non resident and tell them your friend wrote to them but did not receive a reply Ok, I will call them when I am home. Thank you x
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:52
Don't stress about it and I would just deal with it when you get to the UK. Unlike here, you won't be arrested at the airport, lol I think the worst case scenario is that they will have added further penalties for non-payment. DH got a speeding ticket when we were there a few years ago but we didn't know about it until we were back here. We cooperated with the UK police and were quite willing to pay the fine, but in the end they said 'forget it'. I am just worried as I have seen this now that you should not be driving on your UK license now if you have been living out of the country for over one year and should use your UAE license....lol, I was stressing that I would be arrested at the airport ;-/ And, also the address is registered at my mums old address and she is no longer there.....How long had your DH ticket been outstanding before you contacted them? They wont arrest you for a speeding fine Just call them when you get back and explain what has happens feign ignorance regarding not knowing you cannot drive on a UK licence when you are a non resident and tell them your friend wrote to them but did not receive a reply
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:51
Not to add more woes, but were you driving on your UK or UAE licence? Be aware you should have been on your UAE one if you were a non EU resident at the time (and they will be able to find out). Otherwise the insurance etc... would have also been invalid, which you don't want added to your list of penalties as well as having an old UK address on your UK licence. Call the DVLA first and explain the situation. Should I be honest and explain that I was driving on my UK license and I have been out of UK for many years?
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:48
Don't stress about it and I would just deal with it when you get to the UK. Unlike here, you won't be arrested at the airport, lol I think the worst case scenario is that they will have added further penalties for non-payment. DH got a speeding ticket when we were there a few years ago but we didn't know about it until we were back here. We cooperated with the UK police and were quite willing to pay the fine, but in the end they said 'forget it'. I am just worried as I have seen this now that you should not be driving on your UK license now if you have been living out of the country for over one year and should use your UAE license....lol, I was stressing that I would be arrested at the airport ;-/ And, also the address is registered at my mums old address and she is no longer there.....How long had your DH ticket been outstanding before you contacted them?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:45
Not to add more woes, but were you driving on your UK or UAE licence? Be aware you should have been on your UAE one if you were a non EU resident at the time (and they will be able to find out). Otherwise the insurance etc... would have also been invalid, which you don't want added to your list of penalties as well as having an old UK address on your UK licence. Call the DVLA first and explain the situation.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:45
Hi, I just wanted to get some advise. I borrowed a friends car in Dec last year and she was sent a speeding ticket that I got, she wrote to them as I my address had change and inform then it should be on my license. She wrote to them twice and I still have not heard anything, I am now worried as its been over six months. I am returning to the UK in a few weeks, do anyone know what sort of trouble can you get into for not paying a ticket for so long? And, I never changed my address....all my own fault but stressing about it. I had no points on my license before. I would call the DVLA in the UK Yeah, I did but they said I need to contact the fixed penalty department/court and i cant find their number anywhere on the internet
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:20
Don't stress about it and I would just deal with it when you get to the UK. Unlike here, you won't be arrested at the airport, lol I think the worst case scenario is that they will have added further penalties for non-payment. DH got a speeding ticket when we were there a few years ago but we didn't know about it until we were back here. We cooperated with the UK police and were quite willing to pay the fine, but in the end they said 'forget it'.
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 03 July 2014 - 10:05
Hi, I just wanted to get some advise. I borrowed a friends car in Dec last year and she was sent a speeding ticket that I got, she wrote to them as I my address had change and inform then it should be on my license. She wrote to them twice and I still have not heard anything, I am now worried as its been over six months. I am returning to the UK in a few weeks, do anyone know what sort of trouble can you get into for not paying a ticket for so long? And, I never changed my address....all my own fault but stressing about it. I had no points on my license before. I would call the DVLA in the UK
 
 

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