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Latest post on 28 July 2013 - 15:00

Hi all, I'm currently looking for a new maid and it seems like salaries have gone up a little since last year. I have interviewed quite a few ladies from different nationalities and levels of experience and they are asking for about AED 1800 to 2000 for a live in position and AED 3000 for live out. I wonder if these are real amounts other people pay. Please help! Thank you!

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Latest post on 03 January 2014 - 13:19

We pay her 3000 aed per month but she drives, knows how to swim and takes care of our kids full time (we both work) - and also takes really good care of the house. Most of our friends who are stay at home moms usually pay between 1500 and 2000 for their nanny but they don't drive and don't manage the kids as much.

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Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 14:40

Also, should a south African get paid less than a Brit just because salaries are lower in SA? Or an Egyptian paid less than a Lebanese? I think using the "relativity" argument is an excuse to maintain the status quo. Just because we can doesn't mean we should! Well that is the case here for employees of all levels. Nationality/passport plays a big part in the salary offered. If i were to offer a Brit to come work for me..I'd have to offer him more than what He gets back in his homeland to lure him here. However, I wouldnt have to offer the same to say an Asian or an Egyptian (for the same position). I could offer half of that which would still be more than what he could get back in his homeland and that would be sufficient to get him here! Not that I agree with it but this is how it works here unfortunately. Choc is correct, this is the norm and has been for a very long time, I doubt it will ever change

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Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 14:38

Sometimes you could pay an Asian a Brit salary and hope that at least they will wear better suits etc, but usually the more you give them, the more they will save. If you paid me millions, I would not buy a helicopter even though I could afford it, simply because I do not feel that I need it. In the UAE you are paid according to place of Origin. If a New Zealander applies for a job here and she looks like she is of Chinese descent, it can and sometimes does affect her employment rights.

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Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 12:53

Also, should a south African get paid less than a Brit just because salaries are lower in SA? Or an Egyptian paid less than a Lebanese? I think using the "relativity" argument is an excuse to maintain the status quo. Just because we can doesn't mean we should! Well that is the case here for employees of all levels. Nationality/passport plays a big part in the salary offered. If i were to offer a Brit to come work for me..I'd have to offer him more than what He gets back in his homeland to lure him here. However, I wouldnt have to offer the same to say an Asian or an Egyptian (for the same position). I could offer half of that which would still be more than what he could get back in his homeland and that would be sufficient to get him here! Not that I agree with it but this is how it works here unfortunately.

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Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 11:50

I would not send a maid on a course until she has proven herself, seriously you could go through a few maids before you find one who your might want to help with a baby.

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Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 11:42

I had a sri lankan maid and she prefered to eat her own food as she thought mine was bland ! so when I used to go shopping, she used to pop her bits in the trolly. It was mostly fish and lots of dried little fish that she used to fry up with lots of onions and garlic. lots of fresh leaves from the supermarket and odd looking veggies ! regarding courses, you could send her on a first aid course. I know they do them in sinalise and tagalong and Behasa. I dont know about childminding courses im sorry

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Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 11:34

I am big on personal hygiene so I always provide: soa, toothpaste, toothbrush, deodorant, personal items (Kotex etc), shampoo Regarding food, I always allow my maids to include in my monthly shop, any food items they really want to make their lives more comfortable. But in general, they eat what we eat - what they cook for us for each meal. They eat separately from the family, usually after we have finished. But they have separate plates of food - they don't eat our leftovers as is common in many homes I know.

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 10:57

How much extra do people normally give for food and how much for toiletries? We are looking at employing a Sri Lankan maid and were initially planning on letting her eat our food. But my Sri Lankan friend advised me she is probably vegetarian so I want to give her the choice when we make the job offer. We do not currently have any children so were planning on starting her on a lower salary and increasing it substantially as we have children and her work load increases (probably about 50% first child and maybe around 20-30% for second). Does anyone know if there are any good courses for maids in childcare in Dubai that we can offer to her if she is agreeable? Which will justify large pay increases and also improve her opportunities for her next position elsewhere.

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EW GURU

Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 09:46

I think using the "relativity" argument is an excuse to maintain the status quo. Just because we can doesn't mean we should! "SUPERLIKE" Couldn't agree more!!! I've been thinking about posting a response and started to write something repeatedly, but it would never come out right. Thanks Snugs, for making my point better than I could myself.

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EW GURU

Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 09:38

The "relative" argument only works in case of maids who get everything paid for, unfortunately that thinking has transferred across to all employees, and people are paid in some companies on the basis of what things cost in their home country. Someone who rents here, sends his children to school here, and takes vacations from here, should not be paid half the salary of his peer on the basis of their home country expenses. And even within individual countries there can be huge differences in costs.

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EW EXPERT

Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 08:50

I think using the "relativity" argument is an excuse to maintain the status quo. Just because we can doesn't mean we should! "SUPERLIKE"

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EW NEWBIE

Latest post on 01 August 2013 - 08:46

Maids' salaries are always an emotive issue, my only comment goes against the previous posters about salaries being relative. Ultimately we are all here to make more money than we would in our home countries. I, for one, would be very unhappy of my employer paid me relative what I would get in my home country. I would get about half! Gone would be the schooling, gone would be the flights, gone would be the gains due to not paying tax... Also, should a south African get paid less than a Brit just because salaries are lower in SA? Or an Egyptian paid less than a Lebanese? I think using the "relativity" argument is an excuse to maintain the status quo. Just because we can doesn't mean we should!

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EW GURU

Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 18:57

I pay my lovely (live in) maid 1500 a month. It may seem low to some but we didn't need her. She came to us as her previous employer left to go back to the uk and she knew us from the neighbourhood. I have offered to find her better paid work but she won't. Our neighbour offered her 1000 more a month but she declined because she is happy with us. I give her on average an extra 600 a month for babysitting/out of hours duties which helps me a lot. I see her family on Skype a lot and they live a lovely life together because of her. She's a diamond but I would never be able to afford her if she demanded any more. She knows that, appreciates that and knows I would support her in finding better paid work as she's great! HTH

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Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 11:47

Ginnee's point is very relevant: These workers are earning a lot more than they ever could in their home countries and they are saving it all as we also provide all their living expenses: accommodation, food, personal items, clothes (at least for work) as well as the occasional pasksheesh. They are doing very well, in fact. Relatively, they are doing much, much, much better than any of us!! And yes, the figures I quoted in my previous post are the minimum wages suggested. I pay my maid more, as do most of us. however, I know people who pay their maids the minimum wage and have had the same maid for many years. Money is not the only criteria they are looking for - a good family and good working conditions are also important.

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EW OLDHAND

Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 11:37

That is a very high salary they are asking. The relevant embassies actually set minimum salaries for their live in domestic workers: Bangladeshi: 750 AED Indonesian: 800 AED Sri Lankan: 825 AED Indian: 1,100 AED Filipina: 1,400 AED These figures are direct quotes from the "maid" section of EW - please check it out. I have a live in Indonesian maid and I pay her 1,000 aed per month. Wow, these aren't the sort of figures I was expecting to see at all. I'm horrified...750dhs a month? I could spend that much on a single Spinneys trip! I really hope people appreciate these figures as MINIMUM wages. Mrsb, I'm not commenting on your post personally, rather the official figures quoted within it. Starfish - these are the stipulated minimum wages and most employers pay above these figures but they're not relatively low as you may assume... keep in mind that for these 'live in' domestic workers they do not have much living expenses that you as an individual have... they don't need to pay for accommodation or food or schools or medical insurance or clothes as all these are provided by the employer. Whatever they make they save... of course they will not be able to shop at spinneys or have brunches at the madinat or mani/pedis at nail spas with that kind of income... but they aren't inclined to either. Their only priority when away from home is to save money for their family back home... and that's pretty much what they do save for keeping a little aside for their time here... even for the agency help that many people hire in dubai, they are technically paying the agency around 2000-3000 per month but only about 1000 of that actually ends up in the hands of the maid... i'm sure all maids would want a lovely salary of 4 or 5K... just like I would love a salary of 50-60K but at the end of the day I am employed at a salary that I am comfortable accepting and that can meet my current needs and that's all that counts... 750 AED equates to 15,893.70 BDT (Bangladeshi Taka) and any Bangladeshi will be able to tell you that amount is a lot in their currency and can get their family comfortably by for a month. The average income for a native in Bangladesh is around 600 AED per month (and that too is for a skilled worker) hence for unskilled labour like the help here 750 AED is a lot of money... Salaries are always relative... so what may seem low to you might not necessarily be low for another person... I like your post. you have hit the nail on the head here. I think we need to stop comparing the cost of brunches and trips to spinneys to what maids earn. Many Maids here in the UAE save almost 95% of their salary. How many of us on this board can say that we save 95% of our salary ? if you look at the nitty gritty, clothes, food toiletries, medical insurance, phone cards, accomodation utilities are all paid for by the employer. Like ive said on previous posts, I know of maids and office boys and labourers that have managed to educate their children and build houses for themselves with the ' low salary' they earn here. and the reason that they come and work here is that they are never going to earn that amount working as a maid in their home countries. Yep, it's all relative. My maid earns almost triple what she could earn back home and doesn't have any expenses. Never in my life could I dream to make triple what I make back home AND get to save it all.

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EW EXPERT

Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 11:33

I don't have a maid so can't comment really. But I always find it interesting to look at the papers in these countries to compare salaries. For example recently I saw adverts for a driver for less than 300 AED per month, and an educated skilled office worker for 600-700 AED per month. When you also add in to the equation that most unskilled workers (maids/labourers etc) often can not find guaranteed work every day, let alone a guaranteed monthly salary - it makes it easier to understand why their countries' embassies have set salaries at these levels and why they are happy with them. Sometimes it's helpful to have visited the countries in question to have a better understanding of how far that salary can go (not being patronising but unless you have been it is hard to equate it).

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Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 11:17

That is a very high salary they are asking. The relevant embassies actually set minimum salaries for their live in domestic workers: Bangladeshi: 750 AED Indonesian: 800 AED Sri Lankan: 825 AED Indian: 1,100 AED Filipina: 1,400 AED These figures are direct quotes from the "maid" section of EW - please check it out. I have a live in Indonesian maid and I pay her 1,000 aed per month. Wow, these aren't the sort of figures I was expecting to see at all. I'm horrified...750dhs a month? I could spend that much on a single Spinneys trip! I really hope people appreciate these figures as MINIMUM wages. Mrsb, I'm not commenting on your post personally, rather the official figures quoted within it. Starfish - these are the stipulated minimum wages and most employers pay above these figures but they're not relatively low as you may assume... keep in mind that for these 'live in' domestic workers they do not have much living expenses that you as an individual have... they don't need to pay for accommodation or food or schools or medical insurance or clothes as all these are provided by the employer. Whatever they make they save... of course they will not be able to shop at spinneys or have brunches at the madinat or mani/pedis at nail spas with that kind of income... but they aren't inclined to either. Their only priority when away from home is to save money for their family back home... and that's pretty much what they do save for keeping a little aside for their time here... even for the agency help that many people hire in dubai, they are technically paying the agency around 2000-3000 per month but only about 1000 of that actually ends up in the hands of the maid... i'm sure all maids would want a lovely salary of 4 or 5K... just like I would love a salary of 50-60K but at the end of the day I am employed at a salary that I am comfortable accepting and that can meet my current needs and that's all that counts... 750 AED equates to 15,893.70 BDT (Bangladeshi Taka) and any Bangladeshi will be able to tell you that amount is a lot in their currency and can get their family comfortably by for a month. The average income for a native in Bangladesh is around 600 AED per month (and that too is for a skilled worker) hence for unskilled labour like the help here 750 AED is a lot of money... Salaries are always relative... so what may seem low to you might not necessarily be low for another person... I like your post. you have hit the nail on the head here. I think we need to stop comparing the cost of brunches and trips to spinneys to what maids earn. Many Maids here in the UAE save almost 95% of their salary. How many of us on this board can say that we save 95% of our salary ? if you look at the nitty gritty, clothes, food toiletries, medical insurance, phone cards, accomodation utilities are all paid for by the employer. Like ive said on previous posts, I know of maids and office boys and labourers that have managed to educate their children and build houses for themselves with the ' low salary' they earn here. and the reason that they come and work here is that they are never going to earn that amount working as a maid in their home countries.

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Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 11:14

750 AED equates to 15,893.70 BDT (Bangladeshi Taka) and any Bangladeshi will be able to tell you that amount is a lot in their currency and can get their family comfortably by for a month. The average income for a native in Bangladesh is around 600 AED per month (and that too is for a skilled worker) hence for unskilled labour like the help here 750 AED is a lot of money... 15k Taka is not "a lot", unless someone is unskilled. A family with their own home in a village can get by on 15k but not someone who needs to rent, or is a middle class family in a city edited by Arch on 30/07/2013 edited by Arch on 30/07/2013 Arch... majority of the Bangladeshi maids/helpers i know here are not from middle class families in the city... they are from the villages and hence the justification that even that amount of money is much more than they can hope to earn in their own home country doing the same job

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Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 11:06

750 AED equates to 15,893.70 BDT (Bangladeshi Taka) and any Bangladeshi will be able to tell you that amount is a lot in their currency and can get their family comfortably by for a month. The average income for a native in Bangladesh is around 600 AED per month (and that too is for a skilled worker) hence for unskilled labour like the help here 750 AED is a lot of money... 15k Taka is not "a lot", unless someone is unskilled. A family with their own home in a village can get by on 15k but not someone who needs to rent, or is a middle class family in a city edited by Arch on 30/07/2013 <em>edited by Arch on 30/07/2013</em>

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Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 10:44

That is a very high salary they are asking. The relevant embassies actually set minimum salaries for their live in domestic workers: Bangladeshi: 750 AED Indonesian: 800 AED Sri Lankan: 825 AED Indian: 1,100 AED Filipina: 1,400 AED These figures are direct quotes from the "maid" section of EW - please check it out. I have a live in Indonesian maid and I pay her 1,000 aed per month. Wow, these aren't the sort of figures I was expecting to see at all. I'm horrified...750dhs a month? I could spend that much on a single Spinneys trip! I really hope people appreciate these figures as MINIMUM wages. Mrsb, I'm not commenting on your post personally, rather the official figures quoted within it. Starfish - these are the stipulated minimum wages and most employers pay above these figures but they're not relatively low as you may assume... keep in mind that for these 'live in' domestic workers they do not have much living expenses that you as an individual have... they don't need to pay for accommodation or food or schools or medical insurance or clothes as all these are provided by the employer. Whatever they make they save... of course they will not be able to shop at spinneys or have brunches at the madinat or mani/pedis at nail spas with that kind of income... but they aren't inclined to either. Their only priority when away from home is to save money for their family back home... and that's pretty much what they do save for keeping a little aside for their time here... even for the agency help that many people hire in dubai, they are technically paying the agency around 2000-3000 per month but only about 1000 of that actually ends up in the hands of the maid... i'm sure all maids would want a lovely salary of 4 or 5K... just like I would love a salary of 50-60K but at the end of the day I am employed at a salary that I am comfortable accepting and that can meet my current needs and that's all that counts... 750 AED equates to 15,893.70 BDT (Bangladeshi Taka) and any Bangladeshi will be able to tell you that amount is a lot in their currency and can get their family comfortably by for a month. The average income for a native in Bangladesh is around 600 AED per month (and that too is for a skilled worker) hence for unskilled labour like the help here 750 AED is a lot of money... Salaries are always relative... so what may seem low to you might not necessarily be low for another person...

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Latest post on 30 July 2013 - 10:25

That is a very high salary they are asking. The relevant embassies actually set minimum salaries for their live in domestic workers: Bangladeshi: 750 AED Indonesian: 800 AED Sri Lankan: 825 AED Indian: 1,100 AED Filipina: 1,400 AED These figures are direct quotes from the "maid" section of EW - please check it out. I have a live in Indonesian maid and I pay her 1,000 aed per month. Wow, these aren't the sort of figures I was expecting to see at all. I'm horrified...750dhs a month? I could spend that much on a single Spinneys trip! I really hope people appreciate these figures as MINIMUM wages. Mrsb, I'm not commenting on your post personally, rather the official figures quoted within it.

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 13:36

I think this is really a personal thing - every family and every maid is different. We pay ours AED4,000 (live out). She works 5 days 730am -6pm and on call for babysitting at weekend if we need her. This lady is invaluable for our family. She is very responsible and very kind and patient with our daughter. She is so much more than a maid - a great housekeeper, nanny and cook too. For me she is worth every dirham.

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 13:16

We had our previous maid start on 1500 almost 5 years back, she looked after DS (6 at the time) when he came home froms chool and took care of all the household chores, when she left us she was earning 2,000 per month, with food and toiletries provided. We have just hired a new lady in May and we pay her 2,000 and she just really looks after the home as DS is 11 now but she is around and generally gives him some lunch and plays games with him.

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 12:54

I pay my helper 1400 + Accommodation + food + 2 times a month calling her home country from my phone + Transport when she goes for the weekends + clothes once in few months. Just to give you an idea about Rupees; Though it comes with many zeros when you convert DHS into Rupees, We still have to pay an amount which again includes a few zeros. Governments are always rich but not the poor people. So they really don't know that their budgets is too expensive for hard working poor people. (Example: 1kg rice=3dhs or evn more, 1 chiken= from 15 dhs

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 10:27

as long as you are paying your maid more than what the embassy states and she agrees with the pay she is receiving then you should be good to go... Yes, I agree with you.

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 10:18

Honestly I don't know how one can expect a nanny/ maid to work for any less than 3k. If she is good she will work hard for you so deserves to be paid well in return. How can one expect her to have a fair standard of living including eating well on a salary as low as is mentioned here. A western expat wilmlsepnd more that 1000 aed on a brunch for 2!!!! The suggested rates of pay suggest below should be reviewed! edited by Norts on 28/07/2013 The rates below have been set by their coutries embassy and im sure that they thought long and hard when suggesting these rates based on how much that money is in Rupees or pesos and didnt pluck them out of thin air. Yes, the rates have been set by their embassies and the dirhams will go very far if converted to rupees. But how on earth would a maid be able to live out on 1400 dhs a month?! To the OP, I pay 2500 to our live out, but with bonuses and other extra's (she does a fantastic job!) it amounts to 3000. On top a yearly ticket and a month paid holiday. When she is at our house, she eats whatever she likes and I often give her food to take home.

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 10:14

our maid is from Nepal and their embassy set the minimum pay at AED900... we paid her 1000 to start with in her first year and every year henceforth we have given her a AED 100 increment and after two years with us she now earns AED 1200/- per month. imho i don't think that salary is very low by her standards as for her this is 100% saving... she does not spend for anything above this amount as she lives with us and hence has no accommodation expenses or food expenses... we even buy her toiletries and besheets/towels/clothes. i don't think she would ever waste AED 1000/- on a brunch or food in any form and she would much rather send that money back home to her kids. she is happy with us, clear on what her salary expectations are, satisfied with what she is earning and her living conditions and is good at her job and takes good care of the kids... as long as you are paying your maid more than what the embassy states and she agrees with the pay she is receiving then you should be good to go...

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 09:47

The rates set are "minimum" rates, it does mean every single maid from one country have to be paid the same amount; if someone works far better than another person, she deserves a higher salary, maybe not 3k, but i would definitely pay 30-40% more than the minimum for someone who is a good maid

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 09:36

Honestly I don't know how one can expect a nanny/ maid to work for any less than 3k. If she is good she will work hard for you so deserves to be paid well in return. How can one expect her to have a fair standard of living including eating well on a salary as low as is mentioned here. A western expat wilmlsepnd more that 1000 aed on a brunch for 2!!!! The suggested rates of pay suggest below should be reviewed! edited by Norts on 28/07/2013 The rates below have been set by their coutries embassy and im sure that they thought long and hard when suggesting these rates based on how much that money is in Rupees or pesos and didnt pluck them out of thin air.

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Latest post on 29 July 2013 - 09:33

That's what I need a nanny not a maid, how did you go about finding out if they were a nanny rather than a maid from the interview? My experience was like Mich25's. Our children were around when we interviewed and I saw how they interacted with the kids. Our current nanny picked up a book and started reading it to my 3 year old. She not only read the story, but was discussing it with him and teaching him things from the pages (colors, identifying objects, asking him questions, etc.) Does she have more formal education that many of the maids we also interviewed? Probably not. But, she was more child-oriented and seemed to know how to engage a child's mind.

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