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I hope DEWA will not increase their fees to make us pay for this ....

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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 08:29

Today, we have ordered the Dubai Electricity and Water Authority (DEWA) to double free-of-charge water quotas allocated for UAE nationals in Dubai from 10,000 gallons to 20,000 gallons per month. We have also exempted those, who receive social welfare assistance from the Ministry of Social Affairs, from paying electricity charges up to 6,000 kWh per month. Striving to provide best-in-class living standards for UAE nationals without burdening them with extra costs, we have also ordered DEWA to bear the costs of connecting electricity to houses of Emirati nationals in Dubai up to AED25,000

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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 19:16
Can you imagine the outrage in the Western world from the "guests" of the Country if Australia, Uk etc did the "subsidise" for dewa bills it would be called RACISM and taken to court etc....but for some reason it is ok here!!! Disgraceful, no other word but racist, sick of how people get treated in this place and they think this city isn't 3rd world.....because of the "5 star" facade.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 17:52
We are really careful with AC, water & lights and our bills keep going up to. I can understand the need to subsidise the local population to prevent social unrest but giving subsidies on Dewa is not the best way to do it, imo. Already you see so many huge villas with all the lights blazing and blatant waste of water. These measures are not going to encourage people to be more conservative in their use of water and electricity. The local population already have so many advantages - just look at the need to still have a local sponsor outside a free zone. The budget for education is huge but it seems it's not achieving the results as level of education among local school leavers leaves a lot to be desired. Where's the money going? Local are encourage to have large families and you wonder how parents can dedicate the time to give each child the care and attention needed. So many issues and the answer is not just to throw money at the problem. Money is better than education. Keeps people in ignorance
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 17:46
. Already you see so many huge villas with all the lights blazing and blatant waste of water. . SO true............it's all about the show and the image here...........
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 17:12
We are really careful with AC, water & lights and our bills keep going up to. I can understand the need to subsidise the local population to prevent social unrest but giving subsidies on Dewa is not the best way to do it, imo. Already you see so many huge villas with all the lights blazing and blatant waste of water. These measures are not going to encourage people to be more conservative in their use of water and electricity. The local population already have so many advantages - just look at the need to still have a local sponsor outside a free zone. The budget for education is huge but it seems it's not achieving the results as level of education among local school leavers leaves a lot to be desired. Where's the money going? Local are encourage to have large families and you wonder how parents can dedicate the time to give each child the care and attention needed. So many issues and the answer is not just to throw money at the problem.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 16:15
I don't often rant here but .... just received my Sept DEWA bill which has Electricity DOUBLED from the previous month. I live in a 2 bed apartment, was thinking of moving but think will change my mind and stay put. Wouldn't mind but I'm at work for 12 hours a day, hardly have the darn thing on for the few hours I'm awake when I'm home... this is really crazy... Appreciate it's nowhere in the region of many of you with villas where the numbers are ridiculous but I have to fund myself, have no assistance from the company and live here alone !! Guess that next month the water will be sneaked up too ... sure love this place some days!! Have a good weekend ladies
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 16:04
something else that's concerned me lately, thereby again bringing to an even brighter light the issues and problems with certain systems and charges here; DEWA visiting fees...if i have a problem with my meter and am being overcharged on my monthly bill, which is technically DEWAs fault, i have to pay them for their primary inspection visit!!! what on earth!?
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 15:58
Today, we have ordered the Dubai Electricity and Water Authority (DEWA) to double free-of-charge water quotas allocated for UAE nationals in Dubai from 10,000 gallons to 20,000 gallons per month. We have also exempted those, who receive social welfare assistance from the Ministry of Social Affairs, from paying electricity charges up to 6,000 kWh per month. Striving to provide best-in-class living standards for UAE nationals without burdening them with extra costs, we have also ordered DEWA to bear the costs of connecting electricity to houses of Emirati nationals in Dubai up to AED25,000 Shaks - I am confused, who is WE? http://www.facebook.com/HHSheikhMohammed?sk=wall Top post, click on "see more" to get it in English.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 15:37
My last 4 DEWA bills have averaged 5'500 AED per month. We are moving because of it. It is simply not fair. We are also considering moving into an apartment where the AC costs are included, we rattle around now the kids have left home and whilst it'll be a stretch when they do visit we can save thousands a year by moving!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 15:34
My last 4 DEWA bills have averaged 5'500 AED per month. We are moving because of it. It is simply not fair.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 15:14
Anyways, it's a bit circular, isn't it? The more they raise the cost of DEWA, the less Emiratis can afford it so they have to raise the exemption for them and then they raise the cost of DEWA for everyone else to offset it ... and around and around it goes. One of the problems with subsidies in general.
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:59
Today, we have ordered the Dubai Electricity and Water Authority (DEWA) to double free-of-charge water quotas allocated for UAE nationals in Dubai from 10,000 gallons to 20,000 gallons per month. We have also exempted those, who receive social welfare assistance from the Ministry of Social Affairs, from paying electricity charges up to 6,000 kWh per month. Striving to provide best-in-class living standards for UAE nationals without burdening them with extra costs, we have also ordered DEWA to bear the costs of connecting electricity to houses of Emirati nationals in Dubai up to AED25,000 Shaks - I am confused, who is WE?
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:52
the one with the big fence, at the Dreamland turn off? Yeah, I think so ... it stands out so much because it is so out of place in the middle of rolling sand dunes!
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:49
Perhaps the local economy wouldn't be so bad if so many expats didn't export 90% of their salaries, bought more stuff locally rather than shop 'n' ship and didn't use quite so many illegal (and unlicensed) vendors..... maybe then there would be more help available for so many of the disadvantaged locals (and their are many) Just saying.....ABsolutely. This is the biggest gripe amongst locals. They don't mind expats living here, but they hardly ever try to integrate and they ship all of the money straight out of the country. I have to say that the last couple of times I have been in the malls at the weekend, the place is looking like Manila and they don't seem to be not spending - quite the opposite in fact.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:43
So by my reckoning, and feel free to correct me, that means all locals get AED892 worth of water free and those locals who receive social assistance will get AED2068 worth of electricity free. With surcharges at 25% for electricity and 10% for water those figures increase to AED981 and AED2585. Wish I were local as my DEWA fees with fuel surcharges and housing fees are huge:( Unfortunately, they rarely give what they say they will. Plenty of locals cannot afford air conditioning and cannot go to work for various reasons, but no-one gives a tosh unless they manage to get live on the radio and then all **** breaks loose, but why the heck would you know that? Do you listen to Arabic radio? IMAVP, I don't know why you appear to be replying in an aggressive tone. I stated facts and yes in respect of DEWA bills I do wish I were local because quite frankly I too am finding it hard to manage with these high bills. I am sympathetic to those living below the poverty line but statistics seem to show that the majority of people living in poverty here in the UAE are not nationals. However,it is of course only nationals who are eligible for Government assistance though and those who receive it certainly deserve it. I have no idea why wealthy locals need to have government subsidized DEWA bills though and can only surmise that my housing fees and surcharges are helping. Once again, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Most of the time I love living here though and my Arabic, having spent 30 years in the Middle East,could be better but it's ok:)
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EW MASTER
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:42
the one with the big fence, at the Dreamland turn off?
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EW OLDHAND
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:40
If any of you drive from RAK to Dubai, you will notice on the right hand side - in the middle of the vast desert - a little house on a big sand dune surrounded by an oasis of green bushes. It is the most absurd misuse of water resources I have ever seen. And who is paying for that? Surely not the owner!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:24
The costs of most things in the country reflect not only the price of running a business here but also the idea that year on year annual profits must be in the high double digits. Very good point :)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:20
This is for those complaining about poorer workers sending their money out. http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/dubai-shopkeeper-dies-of-grief-1.885876 The closure of the Shindagha Market last week has dealt a fatal blow. Pakistani butcher Ghulam Shabbir died from grief just days before the shutters came down on his meat shop He couldn't afford to send his children to school anymore. Shabir couldn't even pay for his son's dialysis treat ment for kidney failure. He sent his wife and ailing son back home. Shabir was also unwell — his toes were amputated after a complication from diabetes," said the relative. There were problems even after death. His family had to pay Dh50,000 in fines before his body could be taken back to Pakistan. The fines were imposed because his son had overstayed his student visa sponsored by him[.'>[/bedited by Arch on 06/10/2011 <em>edited by Arch on 06/10/2011</em>
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:06
Perhaps the local economy wouldn't be so bad if so many expats didn't export 90% of their salaries, bought more stuff locally rather than shop 'n' ship and didn't use quite so many illegal (and unlicensed) vendors..... maybe then there would be more help available for so many of the disadvantaged locals (and their are many) Just saying..... Have to disagree. DH works for the fast food industry and even after 13 plus years here, he's still astounded at the profit mentality here. Why would you buy stuff locally when you know you're paying over several times the cost of what it does back home ( this is including the cost of shipping it here and overheads)? The costs of most things in the country reflect not only the price of running a business here but also the idea that year on year annual profits must be in the high double digits. Most of the malls would be empty here if it were not for the presence of a few big companies that have a huge portfolio of brands with them. I know that fast food restaurant in a prominent mall pays about 1 million dhs/annum as rental. Do you know how many sales a day they have to make to be able to pay that and still make a profit? Most expats I know would be happy to spend here. But nobody likes the feeling they are being cheated.Besides the UAE offers no guarantees whatsoever for its expat population so on what basis would expats hold money or even invest here?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:05
if expats were given more security in terms of their status here....most people would turn a blind eye to the "top up" charges on everything....as the ladies are pointing out below, the problems UAE faces from an expat's perspective come more to light when they're against a backdrop of "any day now, you can be shipped back" and "daily updated laws and regulations that seem to get changed faster than nappies"...and of course, there is the ever lasting lack of human rights regulators
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 14:00
You sound as outraged as me Arch reading that sweeping allegation about greedy selfish expats! Maybe its just a Thursday thing! <em>edited by Anne G on 06/10/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:59
They are always reminded they are temporary guests, so why do you expect them to spend everything here without building something elsewhere? Exactly. We are never left in any doubt about our status here - we are temporary guests, even if we have bought property. The system is quite specifically set up to make us look at Dubai as a place to come for a while, make as much money as we can, and leave. Until non-nationals can get permanent citizen status, that will never change.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:56
Perhaps the local economy wouldn't be so bad if so many expats didn't export 90% of their salaries, bought more stuff locally rather than shop 'n' ship and didn't use quite so many illegal (and unlicensed) vendors..... maybe then there would be more help available for so many of the disadvantaged locals (and their are many) ..... I am sure you yourself know how ridiculous that sounds. :) What % of expats use shop and ship, 2%, 3% ? And that too for possibly 10% of their purchases? For everything from cars to tvs to groceries they spend on shops here And btw, as there is no taxation here, spending on shops here wouldnt mean the UAE gets helped, it would rather be the owner of the shop, often an expat who will get a slightly higher profit margin. At the end of the day the native disadvantaged population is helped by the UAE Government. Not buying stuff at 200% margin affects the business owner, not the government. So not buying a pair of jeans which is priced 300% of what it is in the USA has nothing to do with help for the disadvantaged locals <em>edited by Arch on 06/10/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:54
. They don't mind expats living here, but they hardly ever try to integrate and they ship all of the money straight out of the country. Who ships 90% of their money outside, some blue collar workers do, [b'>because they are not allowed to bring their families over. So you want people to stay here without families and not send money to them?[/b'> As for high earners, many spend most of their money here. Then again if some of them dont spend all here cant blame them. They are always reminded they are temporary guests, so why do you expect them to spend everything here without building something elsewhere?
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:49
Perhaps the local economy wouldn't be so bad if so many expats didn't export 90% of their salaries, bought more stuff locally rather than shop 'n' ship and didn't use quite so many illegal (and unlicensed) vendors..... maybe then there would be more help available for so many of the disadvantaged locals (and their are many) Just saying.....ABsolutely. This is the biggest gripe amongst locals. They don't mind expats living here, but they hardly ever try to integrate and they ship all of the money straight out of the country. For my family, if our wishes were respected, we would be happy to keep our money here, but in the event that my husband dies, our money will go to my 17 year old son - not me - at least that is what the company lawyer told us. And as long as that is the case, there is no way that we will ever keep our money here, as there is no way my 17 year old DS is getting all of our money! And I buy just about everything here, barring maybe about 500 or 600 dhs worth of stuff a year that I get from overseas, that I just can not find here - most people I know are the same. A lot of my friends don't even have shop and ship accounts. <em>edited by emmess on 06/10/2011</em>
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:49
I'm back again with more figures.:) Ten years ago for Jan 2001 my bill was as follows. Electricity 355 Water 308 Sewerage 51 [b'>Total 714[/b'> Convert that same bill to today's figures and include the slab tarrif, surcharges and housing fee on rental of AED105,000 (huge 5 bed villa in Jumeriah, those were the days) and the bill would look like this Electricity 655 Water 462 Sewerage 55.61 Housing fee 437.50 [b'>Total 1610.11[/b'> I compared our bill from August 2010 to August 2011, we used less electricity but that part was almost 50% more than last year, there have been some big hikes in prices this year.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:47
Ahem....which expat came here to subsidise the local population? We are all here to earn money to look after our families...its not for anyone else to gripe about where we spend the hard earned cash!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:42
Perhaps the local economy wouldn't be so bad if so many expats didn't export 90% of their salaries, bought more stuff locally rather than shop 'n' ship and didn't use quite so many illegal (and unlicensed) vendors..... maybe then there would be more help available for so many of the disadvantaged locals (and their are many) Just saying.....ABsolutely. This is the biggest gripe amongst locals. They don't mind expats living here, but they hardly ever try to integrate and they ship all of the money straight out of the country.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:40
I'm back again with more figures.:) Ten years ago for Jan 2001 my bill was as follows. Electricity 355 Water 308 Sewerage 51 [b'>Total 714[/b'> Convert that same bill to today's figures and include the slab tarrif, surcharges and housing fee on rental of AED105,000 (huge 5 bed villa in Jumeriah, those were the days) and the bill would look like this Electricity 655 Water 462 Sewerage 55.61 Housing fee 437.50 [b'>Total 1610.11[/b'>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 06 October 2011 - 13:38
So by my reckoning, and feel free to correct me, that means all locals get AED892 worth of water free and those locals who receive social assistance will get AED2068 worth of electricity free. With surcharges at 25% for electricity and 10% for water those figures increase to AED981 and AED2585. Wish I were local as my DEWA fees with fuel surcharges and housing fees are huge:( Unfortunately, they rarely give what they say they will. Plenty of locals cannot afford air conditioning and cannot go to work for various reasons, but no-one gives a tosh unless they manage to get live on the radio and then all **** breaks loose, but why the heck would you know that? Do you listen to Arabic radio? You don't have to listen to the radio to know this...plenty of locals are open about it...and it has been slowly coming to light in english language publications. You need to listen to the radio to hear the women who phone in crying about their children not receiving health care etc. You need to listen to their voices. To truly feel it. Unfortunately i do not speak Arabic, but my father who has learnt the language often told me of stories..we once helped an Emirati woman who was suffering because she wasn't getting enough help from you know who....she might have eventually, but it was taking too long...so a few people from my dad's office pitched in and helped as much as they could....im not denying that locals are overlooked at all....in fact, considering how little of the total percentage of population they make up, it shouldn't be that hard given we have expensive high rise buildings popping up like mushrooms after a light rain...i was just saying, that this same you know who that overlooks locals, has come up with plenty of schemes for expats to fork out endless amounts of cash....and yet, as we all clearly see, its not really going where it'll at least make sense.....hence why it becomes a little more difficult to accept certain terms/additional/hidden payments..... <em>edited by PN on 06/10/2011</em>
 
 

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