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Not her again...question about the KHDA & starting kids in Term 3 of school

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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 17:44
BMAP, not sure if this has been mentioned but there are two types of schools here, PROFIT and Not for Profit, quite a difference. I know people feel strongly about the different schools, but to make such a general assumption is not absolute. I think whether a school is profit/non profit is a CONSIDERATION, but certainly not the top of the priority list when choosing a school. Plenty of families are very happy with for profit schools here. I think the general consensus is that most parents at almost all the non profits are generally very happy. But it's not to say that a lot of parents aren't just as happy at for profit schools. It's almost insulting to keep hearing people go on and on about how non profit is point blank better, when most of those parents haven't had children in both types of schools (I know some parents have had children in both). It's like me making the assumption that non profit schools are bad, simply because I'm happy with my son's for profit school. Hmmmmm So Gleeeky, I am sorry to disagree with you . The not for profit schools are virtually impossible to get in to. They are the best for so many reasons. Most children are registered during their first 6 months of life, and even then, if your company does not have debentures etc. it is really hard to get in. I am pleased you are happy with your school. I know plenty who are not. Perhaps it suits you, and that is good, but I would like you to try one of the 'top' schools in Dubai, and then compare. There was a time when there was only 1 school or else you had to go to Choiefat in Sharjah, so I have watched the changes.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 17:35
BMAP, not sure if this has been mentioned but there are two types of schools here, PROFIT and Not for Profit, quite a difference. I know people feel strongly about the different schools, but to make such a general assumption is not absolute. I think whether a school is profit/non profit is a CONSIDERATION, but certainly not the top of the priority list when choosing a school. Plenty of families are very happy with for profit schools here. I think the general consensus is that most parents at almost all the non profits are generally very happy. But it's not to say that a lot of parents aren't just as happy at for profit schools. It's almost insulting to keep hearing people go on and on about how non profit is point blank better, when most of those parents haven't had children in both types of schools (I know some parents have had children in both). It's like me making the assumption that non profit schools are bad, simply because I'm happy with my son's for profit school.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 17:28
BMAP, not sure if this has been mentioned but there are two types of schools here, PROFIT and Not for Profit, quite a difference.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 17:12
Ahh, I see. Thank you. No, probably not given the impact of the GFC. Thank you for the heads up.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 17:02
Teachers leaving - bad management blah blah - it can't be the only Dubai school that's going through this though?
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 16:29
Why is that PlumJam? What is it you are implying? I've obviously missed something when searching through the posts on here about Repton...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 16:22
If her kids are happy then the less she 'knows' about the school the better! Pretty sure it will become a very          different place over the next 2 years though.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 16:10
NO probs. Good luck it is a mind bending planning all this stuff. I think our new Principal is coming from QLD Moreton Bay Boys - something like that Yes, there is a Moreton Bay Boys College. It is in the southern suburbs of Brisbane near Manly / Wynnum which are both nice middle class bayside suburbs. I say that because I haven't heard any feedback about the school or it's leadership. We are on the northern suburbs, so quite some distance away. THanks for that feedback JJ. Yes, I think I've firmed up on Greenfields as No. 1, now I just need to get my contingency plan in place. Just spent the last couple of hours looking at the websites and locations of some of the schools mentioned below and in older threads that I had found via the search function. I'm sorry if this is repetitive for some of the longer term members of this site. But honestly, as a new person coming in, the landscape of the school system is quite confusing - there is different nomenclature used and not explained on school websites and it is difficult to find information on specific schools in here as the threads generally have pretty random titles rather than the specific school's name. Then of course trying to determine the school's locality can be very hit and miss. On many of the school websites they just show where it is in relation to the few roads around it, and not Dubai as a whole so then you have to hit google maps which can be a bit of a nightmare. So marrying the schools with where you want to live is difficut too. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the search for a decent school is very ad hoc so I think I speak for all newbies that repetition does not bother us!!! It is such a critical thing in transitioning your family into the new culture. Honestly, so long as my kids were at a decent school, being nurtured, making friends, enjoying being there, I can cope with anything this place will throw at me. Take away all that and I would probably be a bit of a basket case. So thank you to everyone who has responded to all my banal questions, my family and I really appreciate it. And from now on, I'm going to start threads seeking feedback with the school name as it might make it easier for someone at some stage in the future. :)
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 16:04
Claire i'm well aware of the schooling available in Dubai and the UK thankyou for your concern, i'm also well aware that a few posters on here seem to say completely different things in person to what is posted, was actually dumbfounded on a secondary thread recently by one posters comments. Yes you have always stated your two are happy and you have been happy with the teachers you have had.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 15:57
Jumeirah Jane:[/b'> Are your kids at Repton? If so, are you happy with it? I noted Clairhp has her children there in approximately the same grades as mine would be and is happy with it. I think I am going to cross Jumeirah IB and GEMs WA off our list. I have been thinking about the fees - 20,000D higher per child than a lot of the other schools. We could do a lot with that extra money - there might be more educational value in using it to take the children travelling to some other countries during school breaks for example. You wonder what the value proposition is for that much extra, you know? Is it all just about Brand??? So... on to investigating the British Curriculum schools further edited by Buy me a Pony on 22/01/2011 Yes i would stay well clear of those two IB schools. ClaireHDP uses her own name on a public forum and is well known, not so sure she could say anything else, it is becoming quite repetative. I think Greenfields would be a good choice. I've always used my own name - why wouldn't I? I'm not sure that I'm well known!!!! Don't know many EWs in real life..... and sorry if it's becoming repetative but...... my kids are really happy at school and they seem to be doing well - we have had great teachers so yes.....I am happy. Just saying re the name thing that you are selective what you post, ie you never posted about your rant a while back about your first formal complaint re not having an IT teacher did you? "Seem" to be doing well, that's quite ambiguous? There are some great teachers i would agree with that, lets hope they stay. Seem to be doing well - yes as far as I can see they are - and I do compare with what their friends are doing in the UK and I'm happy - as far as the IT teacher was concerned it was a one off lesson but I was annoyed that we weren't told - first time for a moan - not bad and not something I felt was soooooo awful that it needed to be put out there. I would like the school to finish their building works and I've said this on here but.....as far as my kids going to a school they like and doing well with great teachers I am happy that I made the right decision for my kids...... plenty of other schools to look at if you're not happy.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 15:50
Jumeirah Jane:[/b'> Are your kids at Repton? If so, are you happy with it? I noted Clairhp has her children there in approximately the same grades as mine would be and is happy with it. I think I am going to cross Jumeirah IB and GEMs WA off our list. I have been thinking about the fees - 20,000D higher per child than a lot of the other schools. We could do a lot with that extra money - there might be more educational value in using it to take the children travelling to some other countries during school breaks for example. You wonder what the value proposition is for that much extra, you know? Is it all just about Brand??? So... on to investigating the British Curriculum schools further edited by Buy me a Pony on 22/01/2011 Yes i would stay well clear of those two IB schools. ClaireHDP uses her own name on a public forum and is well known, not so sure she could say anything else, it is becoming quite repetative. I think Greenfields would be a good choice. I've always used my own name - why wouldn't I? I'm not sure that I'm well known!!!! Don't know many EWs in real life..... and sorry if it's becoming repetative but...... my kids are really happy at school and they seem to be doing well - we have had great teachers so yes.....I am happy. Just saying re the name thing that you are selective what you post, ie you never posted about your rant a while back about your first formal complaint re not having an IT teacher did you? "Seem" to be doing well, that's quite ambiguous? There are some great teachers i would agree with that, lets hope they stay.
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 15:36
Jumeirah Jane:[/b'> Are your kids at Repton? If so, are you happy with it? I noted Clairhp has her children there in approximately the same grades as mine would be and is happy with it. I think I am going to cross Jumeirah IB and GEMs WA off our list. I have been thinking about the fees - 20,000D higher per child than a lot of the other schools. We could do a lot with that extra money - there might be more educational value in using it to take the children travelling to some other countries during school breaks for example. You wonder what the value proposition is for that much extra, you know? Is it all just about Brand??? So... on to investigating the British Curriculum schools further edited by Buy me a Pony on 22/01/2011 Yes i would stay well clear of those two IB schools. ClaireHDP uses her own name on a public forum and is well known, not so sure she could say anything else, it is becoming quite repetative. I think Greenfields would be a good choice. I've always used my own name - why wouldn't I? I'm not sure that I'm well known!!!! Don't know many EWs in real life..... and sorry if it's becoming repetative but...... my kids are really happy at school and they seem to be doing well - we have had great teachers so yes.....I am happy.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 14:25
Jumeirah Jane:[/b'> Are your kids at Repton? If so, are you happy with it? I noted Clairhp has her children there in approximately the same grades as mine would be and is happy with it. I think I am going to cross Jumeirah IB and GEMs WA off our list. I have been thinking about the fees - 20,000D higher per child than a lot of the other schools. We could do a lot with that extra money - there might be more educational value in using it to take the children travelling to some other countries during school breaks for example. You wonder what the value proposition is for that much extra, you know? Is it all just about Brand??? So... on to investigating the British Curriculum schools further edited by Buy me a Pony on 22/01/2011 Yes i would stay well clear of those two IB schools. ClaireHDP uses her own name on a public forum and is well known, not so sure she could say anything else, it is becoming quite repetative. I think Greenfields would be a good choice.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 11:56
NO probs. Good luck it is a mind bending planning all this stuff. I think our new Principal is coming from QLD Moreton Bay Boys - something like that My daughters are in Yr 11 and 12. One of them her biggest class is 7 :) almost private tutoring. The lower levels have a max size of 22 I think Good luck searching
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 10:26
Thanks Julie - will go check that out on google maps. Starfish - thank you for your comment. I will suss out that school as it's certainly closer to IC that Al Mamzar would be. And I like the idea of a smaller school - it might be less intimidating amongst all the rest of the change they will go through. Although my kids are at a big one here in Brisbane (1,500 kids), their junior school is on the smaller size - there are 25 kids per class and only 2 classes per grade. Have been looking at Repton school website this arvo and my gosh, it looks big. Like a 5 star hotel...
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 09:38
The school is right on the border of Dubai and Sharjah on the Al Mamzar Lagoon I am not sure of the travelling distance for you. My 2 get the bus from Garhoud (near Festival city) it collects them at 735. School starts at 8.10 finishes at 3, they are home by 345 If not doing after school activity I know there are kids on the bus that come from the Palm and past Mall of Emirates. I think the bus run starts at 7am and finishes at 4. Not sure about Internet City
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 08:56
You might want to have a look at Safa School. It's a small British Curriculum School with a very friendly atmosphere (next to Safa Park). And ... a couple of Year 4 children (8 yrs) moved back home around Christmas ... and no new ones showed up yet... AND Term 3 starts are possible. (Or, at least, were possible.) Good Luck.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 03:56
[b'>JulieH[/b'>: That sounds good, though Sharjah seems a fair distance from where my DH will work (Internet City). How long would it take to get to Internet City from there in peak hour and what is housing like around that area in terms of communities with pools, bike tracks etc? Also is there airport noise there? I hadn't even considered that area - have been focusing on the AR - Green COmmunity locality. [b'>Jumeirah Jane:[/b'> Are your kids at Repton? If so, are you happy with it? I noted Clairhp has her children there in approximately the same grades as mine would be and is happy with it. I think I am going to cross Jumeirah IB and GEMs WA off our list. I have been thinking about the fees - 20,000D higher per child than a lot of the other schools. We could do a lot with that extra money - there might be more educational value in using it to take the children travelling to some other countries during school breaks for example. You wonder what the value proposition is for that much extra, you know? Is it all just about Brand??? So... on to investigating the British Curriculum schools further <em>edited by Buy me a Pony on 22/01/2011</em>
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 03:54
where is hubby working? where are you planning on living? Sharjah may be a bit of a hike for you depending on where you are planning to live. It will take a little while to adjust to driving here on the other side of the road and incase you haven't been told yet there are no real addresses in Dubai :) many roads don't have names and there are no house numbers!
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 03:51
One of my children started in Greenfields in April a 2009. We had no transfer certificate because the NSW dept education don't give them. We had absolutely no problems getting her in there. I had contacted the school before we left Oz but didnt decide until we got here and I visited the school. she was in yr 6 at them time and I put her into grade 6 (yr7) my choice , I could have put her in grade 5 but when I had a look at the classes she was way too mature socially so we chose grade 6 and she did fine. My son (5) is in Children's garden now (has a french daddy) and it is a bilingual kindy so that has been great for him and he will start at Greenfields next year. There are lots of Aussie kids as well as kids from all different cultures religions and nationalities there and we have been really happy with it! HTH
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 02:46
My 2 kids attend the Victorian International School in Sharjah - They love it. It is kept very strictly to the Australian Curriculum except for Arabic /Islamic ministry regulations. We have many different cultural groups in our school. Academically we have been very happy. Our school is run in partnership with the Victorian education department and is owned by the ruler of sharjah. There is no Segregated classes except swimming. We had several new kids just start so they are taking enrolments <em>edited by julieh on 22/01/2011</em>
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EW GURU
Latest post on 22 January 2011 - 02:26
Thanks JJ, that sets it out pretty clearly. Hopefully they would put us in the last category, though there is an Australian School in Sharjah sponsored by the QLD Government - and why they would advertise that, I don't know! QLD came equal 6th in the national numeracy and literacy tests last year. The only state who did worse was the Northern Territory! Embo - that is my DS2. He needs to go into KG/FS2 for Term 3 then into G1. Making note to make sure I get a transfer certificate. That's interesting that they suggested you do the running around to get the waiver from the Ministry of Education (is that the same as the KHDA?). Would that be a big hassle to have to do that?
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 15:57
Also remember not a lot happens in the last 2 months of school, so i wouldn't panic, just do some homeschooling or move over later.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 15:56
Moving within Dubai from a different curriculum: 1st September to 15th November Moving within Dubai from an English curriculum: 1st September to 28th January Moving from outside Dubai from a different curriculum: 1st September to 15th November Moving from outside Dubai from an English curriculum or from a curriculum that has no equivalent curriculum school in Dubai: 1st September to 5th May KHDA rules as per Repton website, Repton have children coming in all the time, so i can not see an issue with Greenfields.
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EW EXPLORER
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 15:35
My DD started in the third term last year and we got quite conflicting advice from schools. Two schools said that she would not need a transfer certificate. The third school I approached said they would not accept her without a transfer certificate. We had just arrived from Australia where she had completed a total of 5 weeks of schooling so naturally I did not have a certificate! They were completely unsympathetic and said I would need to wait until September or I could contact the Ministry of Education to get a waiver. They wouldn't budge on that even when I mentioned that the other schools would accept her. She was going into FS2 at the time. We didn't have a choice and had to enrol her into one of the other schools which turned out to be a good move anyway!
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EW GURU
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 15:03
Thanks Kid vs Kat. Didn't realise there were 2. It's the International School that the Auntie's friend is at. I've got Fiona's number (copied it down from another thread when doing a search). If things start to look like they're going pear-shaped she will definitely be getting a call, LOL. So that's good that she comes recommended. DH is over in Dubai in the next couple of days. I am really hoping he will get the time off work to go visit our preferred school, drop some forms in personally and get a second chance to sound them out.
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EW NEWBIE
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 14:40
Thanks Claire, no, I haven't looked at the Australian school. Is that the one in Sharjah or is there another one? If so, I think I have an Auntie whose friend is working there. I guess I really wanted the opportunity to give the boys a different experience that they couldn't get here and I thought it would be an opportunity to mix with other cultures from around the globe - broaden their perspective a bit. Also their school here in Oz said that their first preference would be to get them into an IB curriculum, so that's where I've focused my energies to start with. I didn't realise the school terms started on different dates for each school. Had better go and have closer look at some of the others. I found it so difficult to find the term start dates within Greenfields website it didn't occur to me that others would be different! 2 weeks is quite significant! Appreciate you mentioning that one! There are two Aussie schools in Sharjah, the first is the one based on the Vic Curric http://www.viss.ae/ the second is the Australian International school http://www.ais.ae/ perhaps you could make contact with Fiona Coutts (don't have her details anymore but I'm sure somebody here does), the ed consultant, we used her and were happy with her knowledge. ;)
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EW GURU
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 14:32
Thanks Claire, no, I haven't looked at the Australian school. Is that the one in Sharjah or is there another one? If so, I think I have an Auntie whose friend is working there. I guess I really wanted the opportunity to give the boys a different experience that they couldn't get here and I thought it would be an opportunity to mix with other cultures from around the globe - broaden their perspective a bit. Also their school here in Oz said that their first preference would be to get them into an IB curriculum, so that's where I've focused my energies to start with. I didn't realise the school terms started on different dates for each school. Had better go and have closer look at some of the others. I found it so difficult to find the term start dates within Greenfields website it didn't occur to me that others would be different! 2 weeks is quite significant! Appreciate you mentioning that one!
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EW EXPERT
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 13:54
Our school starts the new term the middle of April so a may start date is missing the start of he term you might find it easier to place them in at the term start date. I can't believe the khda would agree to children being off if there are places at school that they could go to as new to Dubai students. Just out of interest - have you looked at the Australian school here? I saw a bus for the school on Arabian ranches the other day for the first time.
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EW GURU
Latest post on 21 January 2011 - 09:47
Thanks all. Famn: "a move at the beginning of T3 is an ideal time as you are not competing with those already in the system wanting places at different schools." That's exactly what I was thinking prior to this phone call, but she pulled the rug out from under my feet with the comment about the KHDA. These replies have given me hope that somewhere we will be able to get into a school. Perhaps the registrar was saying this so I wouldn't get my hopes up if we didn't get into [i'>her [/i'>school. I definitely made it clear we were coming from Australia so no prior experience in Dubai schools I agree with you all - starting in last term would be ideal as hopefully it's a little more relaxed than the other terms as people wind down for the end of the year, so a bit more social etc Onwards and upwards...I'd better work out what other schools to apply to if we don't get our first option.
 
 

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